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    I just hope that we can all learn from the mistakes that have been made in this ordeal....and not let it happen again.

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    you guys are ing ridiculous... blaming the government for this ..

    in florida after a hurricane, there isn't a huge flood that stays for months... insurance companies, the red cross, the fed can all come in within days to cut checks.

    plus, you dont have people in florida shooting aid workers!

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    But with the sick and the dying forced to sit in their own excrement behind him in New Orleans, its early-evening anchor Shepard Smith declared civil war against the studio-driven notion that the biggest problem was still stopping the looters.
    His and Geraldo's tirades were quite surprising -- I noticed they Fox didn't go back to Smith for the rest of the hour and the checkpoint that kept folks in the city was never spoken of again to my knowledge.

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    Published - Sept 05 2005 11:01AM CDT || AP

    METAIRIE, La.(AP) One week after Hurricane Katrina devastated the region, miles-long lines of vehicles crawled into Jefferson Parish on Monday as residents were allowed to return to salvage what was left of their homes. New Orleans' mayor warned that 10,000 people may have died.

    President Bush began his second trip to the region since the storm hit, landing in Baton Rouge late in the morning to start another inspection tour and consultations with federal and local officials.

    Traffic began moving into the parish west of New Orleans at about 6 a.m. A curfew was set for 6 p.m., and residents were told they could stay until Wednesday.

    Among those returning was Diane Dempsey, a 59-year-old retired Army lieutenant colonel who stopped at the water's edge less than a mile from the house where she grew up and where her aunt lives.

    "I'm going to pay someone to get me back there, anything I have to do," she said, sobbing while standing amid boats beached on Veterans Highway. "A lot of these people built these houses anticipating some flood water but nobody imagined this."

    Most of the single-story bungalow homes in her neighborhood had water nearly to the rooflines. Homes in the most exclusive neighborhood of the parish, Old Metaire, had little structural damage but some of the worst flooding. Along rows of palatial, six-bedroom homes, a few windows were broken and the live oaks survived but the water rippled up to front-door knobs.

    The suburban parish, which has 460,000 residents, has been closed since a mandatory evacuation just before Katrina hit. Wide portions of Metairie and Kenner suffered heavy flooding, and authorities said thousands of homes were damaged.

    A week after the storm, a definitive death toll remained elusive. New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin warned on NBC's "Today" that "it wouldn't be unreasonable to have 10,000" dead.

    Despite the grim estimate, he was more upbeat than in previous days, when he railed against the federal government and broke down sobbing during a radio interview.

    "We're making great progress now, the momentum has picked up. I'm starting to see some critical tasks being completed," he told NBC.

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    How come the Fed doesn't up in Florida?
    Because the local and state officials there are better prepared than in NO.

    Just one example...

    If you go to any big city down there (say Miami for example), there are signs up for hurricane evacuation routes showing people the way out. Every other bus stop in Miami is a hurricane evacuation point for those without transportation, and has a sign up at the stop saying so.

    NO has nothing of the sort. Now, you may think that's minor but you think about people in NO who didn't even know where to go to get on a bus out of town (Nagin not using buses is another argument altogether), while in Miami you've got a pickup point on every other street corner.

    Those signs of information are a standard in every big coastal city in MS, AL, and Florida, but you got nothing in NO.

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    17th Street levee is plugged, and Entergy is wiring electricity into the pumping station.

    Already have other pumps on the east side cranked up and running. Go Army!

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    what did they use to plug it?

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    His and Geraldo's tirades were quite surprising -- I noticed they Fox didn't go back to Smith for the rest of the hour and the checkpoint that kept folks in the city was never spoken of again to my knowledge.
    Sheppard Smith was melting down over the situation the entire time after the levys broke...you gotta realize...his hometown got wiped out by the Hurricane...He's been emotional for all of this except for the pre-strom.

    And why are they surprising? Because they aren't as biased as everyone says? Unlike the CNN guys who are biased, always. Geraldo used to be an extreme liberal...he changed...I wonder why. And you should hear these guys get on Bush for his border stance...ditto O'Reilly.


    Meanwhile...Bush writing those racist captions for the right wing AP is a travesty. ing racist Bush...I can't believe he wrote those captions like that.

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    Because the local and state officials there are better prepared than in NO.

    Just one example...
    Oh I understand why...

    Not to mention that the majority of the people there heed these warnings due to all the severe hurricanes they have had the past few years.

    And if people could have seen what this hurricane was going to do...

    I gurantee you there wouldn't have been 250,000 that stayed in the city of NO



    NO has nothing of the sort. Now, you may think that's minor but you think about people in NO who didn't even know where to go to get on a bus out of town (Nagin not using buses is another argument altogether), while in Miami you've got a pickup point on every other street corner.

    Well it doesn't help that Greyhound closed their offices...

    To Nagin's credit...he did have shuttles to take people to the Dome...a lot of people didn't get on them.


    I could just see what would have happened if the Police Force had been forcing these people out of their homes before their hurricane hit...

    There would have been about 100,000 Police Brutality charges....

    Those signs of information are a standard in every big coastal city in MS, AL, and Florida, but you got nothing in NO.

    I agree...and they also have a better police force than NO...whose corrupt police force is legendary.

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    what did they use to plug it?
    Sandbags, dirt, concrete construction barriers, JLo's ass.

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    And why are they surprising? Because they aren't as biased as everyone says?
    Yes, in Smith's case. And the anchor's response -- changing the subject -- was not surprising.

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    Here's something to chew on for all the MMQBs...

    They are talking about Jefferson Parish (west NO) right now. The president of that parish had everyone either 1) evaced or 2) moved to shelters (the old and those who didn't have the means/time to leave).

    So, doesn't it say more about local gvt. that a parish president could get his parish prepped to the point that they're getting to come back today to check on their houses? That he had generators in place for all the shelters to keep electricity running for the people?

    I thought this was all Bush's fault, so doesn't he deserve some respect for at least getting Jefferson Parish safe? [/tongue in cheek]

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    Gunmen were firing on the contractors who were repairing the 17th street levy.



    Those goddamn racist contractors better not hurt my people[/Kanye Dumbass ing bag West]

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    ^^^^^^^^^

    Broussard: I know what the body count is so far, but I won't horrify the nation.
    Ouch (Jefferson Parish President)

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    Yes, in Smith's case. And the anchor's response -- changing the subject -- was not surprising.
    The anchor was O'Reilly...and Smith said he wasn't trying to blame anyone. He was just frustrated watching people drop dead around him...I would have been too, I was watching it on TV. It makes September 11th look like a a minor disaster...I think 99% of the people in the world would have reacted similarly.

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    From MSNBC, interviewing a black woman from New Orleans...

    She said she always thought white people were to blame for a lot of things, but since she's been in Houston, so many white people have been truly trying to help her out and have been so compassionate.

    Someone get Jesse J. and Kanye on the line, she's not towing the party line.

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    The anchor was O'Reilly
    Hannity was the one I saw.

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    Well because those are the parts that where not underwater.

    If the levy's had not broke would be about the same situation with the sunken portions.

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    Not one mention of the State government's role and responsibility in this. BBC as a news source is just pathetic. I go on their website all the time and they never fail to leave out major details and misinform their readers/viewers.
    One of the reasons that Florida is able to manage hurricanes so much better is that they have a Governor who understands his job and knows how to lead and manage relief efforts.

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    Someone was asking about the Mississippi. On CNN they are showing tankers and cargo ships coming up the Mississippi right now

    Just interviewed a former NO swat team commander. He said that the NG didn't have the power to enforce law without a proclimation from La.'s governor, which still hasn't come.

    They were talking about the mess in the Dome and he said all the NG guys could do is act as security for the military doctors and stuff they brought in, and that a proclimation of martial law from the gov. was never issued, hence the NG was limited in what it could do.

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    From MSNBC, interviewing a black woman from New Orleans...

    She said she always thought white people were to blame for a lot of things, but since she's been in Houston, so many white people have been truly trying to help her out and have been so compassionate.

    Someone get Jesse J. and Kanye on the line, she's not towing the party line.
    where is mookie and cbf...

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    The anchor was O'Reilly...and Smith said he wasn't trying to blame anyone. He was just frustrated watching people drop dead around him...I would have been too, I was watching it on TV. It makes September 11th look like a a minor disaster...I think 99% of the people in the world would have reacted similarly.
    I was watching that....he was trying so hard to keep it together, but he's only human. I don't know if most people (including myself) could have done any better. You'd have to be among the coldest ers on the planet.

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    Sandbags, dirt, concrete construction barriers, JLo's ass.

    I'd have been happy to have donated mine...I could have gotten the whole 17th street canal on my own.


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    While I feel sorry for most of these evacuees, some of them are really pissing me off. On CNN the other day they were interviewing a very enraged woman (surprise, surprise). She was at the airport looking for her husband and was livid that no one could tell her where he was. She went on a long rant about how disgusted she was with the rescue efforts. But during her tirade she revealed that she could have left when ordered but chose not to and that she was pulled off the roof by the Coast Guard not once, BUT TWICE. She and her husband were first rescued from their roof on Monday. Then on Tuesday (or Wednesday) she went back to "check on her house", only to find herself back on the roof with her husband where they waited about 10 hours (which she ed about) to get rescued again by another helicopter. And now she's infuriated about the disorganization and the fact that they put her and her husband on seperate buses and on and on. I'm sorry, but it is people like this that
    selfishly overburden the system and are a reason why so many truly needy people are not getting the help they need.

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