More proof local leadership really didn't have a plan...
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3kt.htm
So they knew they couldn't deal with the aftermath, then still dragged their feet afterwards on requesting large scale federal help, then blamed it on Bush.NEW ORLEANS FLASHBACK: OFFICALS WARNED RESIDENTS 'YOU'LL BE ON YOUR OWN'
Mon Sep 05 2005 18:57:15 ET
Before residents had ever heard the words "Hurricane Katrina," the New Orleans TIMES-PICAYUNE ran a story warning residents: If you stay behind during a big storm, you'll be on your own!
Editors at TIMES-PICAYUNE on Monday called for every official at the Federal Emergency Management Agency to be fired. In an open letter to President Bush, the paper said: "Our people deserved rescuing. Many who could have been were not. That's to the government's shame."
But the TIMES-PICAYUNE published a story on July 24, 2005 stating: City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give a historically blunt message: "In the event of a major hurricane, you're on your own."
Staff writer Bruce Nolan reported some 7 weeks before Katrina: "In scripted appearances being recorded now, officials such as Mayor Ray Nagin, local Red Cross Executive Director Kay Wilkins and City Council President Oliver Thomas drive home the word that the city does not have the resources to move out of harm's way an estimated 134,000 people without transportation."
"In the video, made by the anti-poverty agency Total Community Action, they urge those people to make arrangements now by finding their own ways to leave the city in the event of an evacuation.
"You're responsible for your safety, and you should be responsible for the person next to you," Wilkins said in an interview. "If you have some room to get that person out of town, the Red Cross will have a space for that person outside the area. We can help you."
Developing...
Well, they certainly have the democratic playbook down.
What a lying sack of !
The head of the American Red Cross said that they didn't have anyone in NO because it was too dangerous until after the storm passed.FEMA did not have a plan for a massive rescue or of receiving of evacuees. Said Homeland Security turned away the American Red Cross by saying it was too dangerous.
-Jesse Jackson
"Bush's fault."
Aww Manny learned what state of emergency is...
In that case you should be happy to know that the Govenor of Louisiana declared her state to be in one of emergency 2 days before the the Hurricane hit and was granted federal funding prior to an emergency for the second time in US history...I'd call that a pretty fast response...
Are you ready to praise Bush now for reacting quickly?
I hope you realize that that declaration also gave her control of all the State Resources and she refused to work with the Federal Government on a sharing of resources and power.
Bush was the one that pushed for the mandatory evacuation...not the Govenor and Mayor.
Too bad he couldn't order it....so you know...it could fall on the shoulders of the Federal Government, rather than a bunch of incompetent s.
Too bad the Govenor didn't feel that way...and you need to take it up with the cons ution.Diaseter reaction and relief on this scale falls mainly on the shoulders of the feds.
Want to tell me who was behind pulling all those people out of houses on Day 1 after the Hurricane?Want to tell me what FEMA stands for?
Want to tell me who was in charge of maintaining security and shelter based on commandeering all of the in state relief resources, and failed miserably?
Evacuees allowed back, for half a day
By Patrick O'Driscoll, USA TODAY
METAIRIE, La. — Mary Salassi rocks on the porch swing at her son Henry's house as he and his brother-in-law wade a borrowed kayak into three feet of water on West Livingston Place. Dipping wooden paddles meant for stirring a crawfish-boiling pot, they row off toward Salassi's flooded town house, several blocks away.
David Jackson pulls his canoe onto his porch as he returns while retrieving items from his Metairie home.
By Jack Gruber, USA TODAY
"I'm not going to worry about it," she says. "You can't go back and look at what happened. You have to go forward. Like I told my children and grandchildren: You have your family."
Salassi turned 66 a week ago, the day Hurricane Katrina demolished much of southern Louisiana and Mississippi. "They all said, 'You're never going to forget this birthday,' " she muses. "My life's upside down, but I will come back."
The Salassis were among the first evacuees allowed back to the western and southern suburbs of New Orleans on Monday, having driven all the way from Houston late Sunday. Through Thursday, Jefferson Parish is opening a 12-hour window — 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. CT — for hundreds of thousands to visit their storm-tossed neighborhoods, assess damage and grab a few belongings.
Then the people of Jefferson, whose 435,000 residents make it Louisiana's second-largest parish after New Orleans, must leave. Dubbed "residents-in-exile" by parish council president Aaron Broussard, they won't be allowed home again until power, water and other key services are restored. That could take weeks. Which is better than the months it may take in parts of New Orleans next door.
Most who endured several miles of bumper-to-bumper traffic to get into Jefferson Parish early Monday found that neighborhoods were wind-blown and shredded but dry or only damp; the high waters have receded.
But in Old Metairie, an enclave amid elegantly gnarled oaks on the west doorstep of New Orleans, the murky, sewage-tinged soup is still five feet deep in places.
"We're the highest point along what's called Metairie Ridge. We're where you run to in a flood," says Newell Normand, the parish's chief deputy sheriff. That was before a now-infamous levee on the 17th Street Canal, which straddles the Jefferson-Orleans boundary, gave way hours after Katrina passed.
"I'm told that the 17th Street Canal pump will go on today, but I've been told a lot of things over the past week that didn't work out," adds Normand, who has been set up at an emergency command post still without power.
Old Metairie borders the canal, whose breach inundated much of New Orleans and eastern Jefferson Parish. It turned a natural occurrence of extremely bad weather into the worst disaster in U.S. history.
"It's a man mistake, not the hurricane," Salassi says.
Whatever the blame, residents who trickle into the neighborhood bring chain saws, boats, generators and rental trucks. Those who haven't left town drift over to a relief center at the Sam's Club parking lot off Airline Highway. National Guard troops in green camouflage have been paired with sheriff's deputies to direct traffic and keep the peace at major intersections.
Despite uncounted fallen trees and thousands of downed power lines, most returnees are able to drive home. Others have to wade or paddle.
David Jackson, an Allstate insurance agent, has come from LaPlace, La., to fetch clothes, do ents and wedding photos from a house swamped with two feet of water.
"I came here in a pair of flip-flops and shorts, and my son's track coach lent me a pair of boots and a boat," says Jackson, 43. He glances down at the green rubber footwear and does a double-take. "Two left boots!" he laughs. "But right now, they're the best boots in town."
After three trips in a flat-bottomed Cajun canoe called a pirogue, Jackson loads his pickup and sets out. "It's all about salvaging what we can today," he says. "My family was the most important priority. From tomorrow on, it'll be probably 10- to 12-hour days minimum for me" as he sorts out insurance claims for his clients.
Michael Norton, a computer consultant, drove in from Austin and found two feet of water, too, and a toppled tree. "I had a contract out to take down the pecan tree in my back yard," says Norton, 38. "Too late." And it missed his house. Other homes haven't been so lucky.
Slung over Norton's shoulder is a shotgun. His friend, Dan Sanders, 38, packs a pistol on his belt. "We were expecting the worst," Sanders explains, noting reports of violence spilling out of New Orleans. After half of Oakwood Shopping Mall, on the parish's West Bank, was ransacked and torched last week, tension has ed in the suburbs. A spray-painted sign in a West Bank neighborhood warns: "U LOOT — WE SHOOT."
But the sheriff's office says the return of residents has gone fairly smoothly. "We haven't had too many problems — yet," Normand says.
As electricity has been restored sporadically, a few older homes have caught fire, probably from old or faulty wiring, he says. More ominous: reports of carbon monoxide poisoning deaths among families who rode out Katrina and fired up gas-powered generators after losing power. "The water surrounded the houses, and they brought their portable generators inside," Normand explains.
Back in Old Metairie, Maria Maginnis, 38, sits in the cab of the family SUV, eager to leave after having been carried piggy-back by her husband, David, through waist-high water to their split-level on Atherton Drive.
"I didn't want to come," she says, dread still in her voice. She laments the condition of her house, which might not be home again for months. "All the sewage," she says. "I didn't expect that."
They first had fled to Nacogdoches, Texas, then drifted closer — first to Beaumont, Texas, then Baton Rouge, the Louisiana capital about an hour west of here. On Monday, they arrived before 3 a.m. Maria stayed in the car at first while David, with flashlight and waders, slogged down the block in the dark.
"The anxiety of seeing your house is what is driving you," David says. "I wanted to do some preliminary checks so it wouldn't be such a shock when the sun came up. Regardless of what shape you find it in, it's a relief."
After sunrise, the couple surveyed a foot of water in the house. They stayed only long enough to grab a few essentials: baseballs and bats, a football, a New Orleans Saints T-shirt, a PlayStation, children's books, and Swimmy, the pet blue fighting fish for sons Cade, 8, and Connor, 4.
"The main thing for us is the kids," explains David, 39, who works for a major Louisiana fresh-tuna supplier. "They're separated from their friends, their everyday activities, their school. The waiting list for schools is incredible."
For Maria, the visit has lasted long enough. "I don't want to come back until it's livable," she says. "I am so ready to go."
At 7:45 a.m., they were gone.
Find this article at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...s-return_x.htm
Obviously you can't read. I said medical state of emergency.
Also, it was the NHC that called the mayor. Bush had nothing to do with it.
Don't let facts get in the way of your ranting, though.
Either way, I give up on arguing with you. Your going on ignore man. I'm getting too pissed over this .
And obviously you weren't watching the press conference when Nagin ordered the mandatory evac....Otherwise you'd know that Blanco said Bush called them personally and appealed for the mandatory evac...
Oh...you have me on ignore...maybe someday you'll find out the truth....
The administration totally had Louisianas back on this disaster...it was they(LA Gov) that didn't want to work in conjunction with the government...as a result...they failed miserably on their own...and the Government was given the entire burden of this relief effort with the Louisiana's governments major contribution being confusion...hardly a surprise since they were incapable of even communicating with their own forces in the city.
Blanco didn't even know Bush was scheduled to be in LA today...yeap...real swifties they got there in Louisiana.
you didn't know that the federal government is responsible for having an evac plan for every single city in the united states and that cities/states aren't allowed to do anything for themselves?
How did I miss this?
I didn't realize you were a fellow racist...why are we arguing again?
Here's you uni...
Mine has a Spurs logo on it.
Now that I know you are my kind I acan associate with you...In fact I'll be at the next GTG and I'll bring the burning cross!
The projection was 100k...there are more than that.The amount of people who stayed behind was expected.
65% of the police force quitting was not expected...unsecured and unsupplied shelters were not expected...the absolute and total collapse of the commandeered state relief forces were not expected. People firing on the rescuers and doctors was not expected.The levees breaking was expected. The amount of "looters" was expected. The toxic soup that has engulfed the city was expected. All of this has been reported for decades, yet now the people in charge are playing the ignorance card.
The local Democrats started the blame game...the Fed was originally trying to keep their mouth shut and have one voice. Just like they did in 2001...And now depending on what side of the partisan divide individuals are on, they are responding accordingly ... instead of just looking at it in an unbiased manner.
But naivete of what a marginalized political party will do to manipulate themselves back into power sure isn't....Common sense is dead.
Cease Fire! ....
I have a very ominous feeling about this system:
It is going to cross over to the Gulf soon, and I am pretty damn sure its going to be a named system by then. The pool of warm water in the gulf is still there. Katrina made a serious impact on the tempature of the waters, but the fact is that with water temps running so damn high to begin with there is still plenty of energy to fuel a hurricane.A 1010 MB LOW IS CENTERED OVER THE N BAHAMA ISLANDS OFF THE THE
COAST OF S FLORIDA NEAR 26N78W AND IS NEARLY STATIONARY. THE
CENTER OF CIRCULATION IS NOT THAT WELL DEFINED ON THE MIAMI
RADAR IMAGERY BUT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BECOMING BETTER ORGANIZED
OVER THE PAST 6 HOURS. LOW IS BENEATH THE W SIDE OF AN UPPER
HIGH PRODUCING S SHEAR OVER THE SYSTEM. DEEP CONVECTION IS MORE
CONSOLIDATED OVER THE BAHAMA ISLANDS N OF LOW. SCATTERED
MODERATE/STRONG CONVECTION IS FROM 26N-28.5N BETWEEN 76.5W-79.5W
INCLUDING THE ISLANDS OF ABACO AND GRAND BAHAMA. THE LOW IS
EXPECTED TO DRIFT N TO NW BENEATH AN UPPER LEVEL HIGH AND BE
NEAR OR OVER FLORIDA DURING THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. TROPICAL
CYCLONE DEVELOPMENT IS POSSIBLE WITHIN THE NEXT DAY OR SO AS
UPPER LEVEL WINDS BECOME MORE FAVORABLE.
"Jesus, I don't know how NBADan and Boutons sleep at night with their 'shrub' hatred."
That's not all you don't know, but I, and Jesus, thank you for your concern.
Nipping in to play the bull "hatred" card in the face of dissent against shrub/Repugs repeated, fatal ups, and nipping out, rather than address the issues.
The problem is you don't address issues, you spew unadulterated hatred and antibush bull . Everyone sees it but you.
On the blame game:
Several here are blaming NO for not starting evacuation earlier. However, I have heard nothing on the news where there were lots of people trying to get out before the storm, but were unable to. In hindsight, they should have been more proactive and provided public transport to get more people out, but I am not aware of any sizable city that has ever done this. It's usually the government says you should leave, and the people find their own way out.
As for action after the levies broke, NO had its hand full rescuing people. They had to make terrible choices between keeping order and rescue, all the time while their infrastructure was zilch, their own homes were flooded, and their family who knows where.
As for Louisiana, I agree Governor Weepy is at big fault here. It could be Louisiana was overwhelmed too because the hurricane hit SE Louisiana hard in addition to the NO flooding, but Louisiana seemed to be completely disorganized as far as NO was concerned.
As for the Feds, FEMA and Homeland Security were big-time failures. It wasn't until the general hit the ground that any substantial action began to occur.
Not to mention over 500 NO police officers left there post.
actually, you can pull up on the internet the New Orleans emergency plan for this scenario. (I think Whottt has posted it). They had a fairly well outlined plan in place. Sadly, no one implemented it. I believe it's paragraph 5 that addresses evacuating those people who can't leave on their own. They were supposed to have used those busses...the ones we all saw under water after the storm. And they were supposed to have pre-arranged shelters to take people to. All that could have been done. Local indifference and incompetence impeded those plans. No one is saying it would have been an easy job evacuating all those people, but it would have been a lot easier than managing the horrific nightmare that took place last week.
Jeff Masters already tore that plan apart as being pretty weak to begin with.
Ok, you're right. NO failed on the evacuation.
I'm sure this will make Dan and boutons happy...
http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/D8CERLA00.html
Bush will lead the investigation into what went wrong himself. Michael Brown, wherever you are, time to start working on that resume.
There were so many ball droppers in this fiasco...is there anyone left untainted? Anyone that could possibly lead an objective investigation?
I just thought of a possible silver lining for these people. I'm watching them getting off an airplane in another city. They're being sent all over the U.S. So far, I've heard Utah, Texas, Washington, Oregon, Michigan, Indiana, Virginia...
This might be an opportunity for people to dramatically change their lives by starting anew in a place that isn't a bastion of crime and poverty . It's got to be hard to lose your entire city and those people being sent so far from home are going to be traumatised, but honestly, there are so many better places to live than New Orleans.
on the news last night they said, that in texas we don't have projects, we have a voucher system and that these people would be able to get the assistance they needed to find a place to live.
Look closely, one of the kids is sporting a Spurs jersey.
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