Official Hurricane Katrina Thread

[Vashner]

Well, according to Texas Law, he couldn't have shot someone who walked into his house and took a tv set if they didn't pose a threat to him physically. I am assuming from your description that he exhausted all non-violent attempts to keep them off the premesis and their attempt to forcefully enter the house was construed as life-threatening.

That's not true. If they are in the house you can shoot them...
If it's nighttime and they are stealing something outside.. you can shoot them. Daytime you can't pursue them past your private property and only shoot outside if you are under a threat or they are stealing something that can't be replaced.

Next time your gonna quote Texas use of force learn it first...

Edit: I want to add here to you guys.. ANY BURGLER should be considered deadly. You want them to steal your stuff THEN shank you? After they drive off with your cell phone or land lines cut off and your there bleeding to death?

IF SOMEONE breaks into your home or apartment.. either run away or blow them away.. Don't wait to find out if they are going to try to KILL YOU.. This is San Antonio it's full of criminals.

[2Blonde]

Who's watching Oprah?

I cried right along with Oprah through the whole show. Wasn't that something when they didn't want her to go inside the Superdome because they were worried about what diseases she might catch. She had to absolve them on camera of all liability before she could go in. She said if people lived in there for 6 days the she could handle a few minutes.I just heard on the news that they will probably have to demolish it.
I told my daughter that I don't believe I have ever seen so many men of power break down and cry as have seen after this disaster. It's breaking my heart.
After 9-11 we had an enemy to get mad at and direct our rage towards. This time there is no human enemy and much of the carnage was due to our failures as a society in not preparing correctly for this type of disaster. While we couldn't have stopped this, we could have reduced the death toll tremendously and I think this is what is making this so tragic.

[ObiwanGinobili]

I was crying all thru the Oprah show....whta really got me was the man with the dog. .and how he and that dog had saved his neighbors life and now after having that dog for 14 yrs he would have to leave it behind if he got on a bus...

but then later on in the show they showed the doctor... and all thoise dead bodies... that woman just lying dead o nthe bridge uncovered... .
And then when he was holding that baby waho was just suckign down thta water he gave her like a vacuum and he heard her heart with a stethesvope nad the rate was over 200bpm...... OMG.

thankgoodnessthe Oprah show is only an hour casue I was a wreck he whole time.. and glued to it too. I couldn't even think of changing the channel.

[SpursWoman]

I was crying all thru the Oprah show....whta really got me was the man with the dog. .and how he and that dog had saved his neighbors life and now after having that dog for 14 yrs he would have to leave it behind if he got on a bus...

but then later on in the show they showed the doctor... and all thoise dead bodies... that woman just lying dead o nthe bridge uncovered... .
And then when he was holding that baby waho was just suckign down thta water he gave her like a vacuum and he heard her heart with a stethesvope nad the rate was over 200bpm...... OMG.

thankgoodnessthe Oprah show is only an hour casue I was a wreck he whole time.. and glued to it too. I couldn't even think of changing the channel.

Do they show Oprah on In Demand on TWC?

[Shelly]

Do they show Oprah on In Demand on TWC?

No.

[spurster]

A permanent move from New Orleans has begun for many.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/07/na...al/07home.html

...

In Houston alone, close to 1,200 evacuees moved on Tuesday from the Astrodome into apartments with six-month leases.

...

[SpursWoman]

No.

Thanks.

[MannyIsGod]

who caught Stephon on ESPN?

I did. I was amazed how torn up he was.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I think someone was asking about the Mississippi a ways back...

BATON ROUGE (AP): Hurricane Katrina sank or grounded 110 barges, ships and boats -- 67 of them in the Mississippi River, and another 43 along the coast, a Coast Guard spokesman said Tuesday.

Petty Officer Larry Chambers had no further breakdown, or even an estimate on how many were barges and how many motorized vessels.

An obstruction -- he didn't know what it was -- at Southwest Pass, the main entrance to the river, kept ships with more than 35 feet of their hulls underwater from getting into the river, Chambers said. Some tankers and container ships can still get through, he said.

Another major difficulty was that the storm destroyed or blew away many of the markers showing the deepest part of the channel through the twisty river. Chambers didn't know what percentage was missing.

"Just extremely high," he said. "That's still in the survey stage as well, determining how many."

I wonder what's buried at the SW pass, probably a barge or tanker.

Crazy.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...0301653_4.html

Other federal and state officials pointed to Louisiana's failure to measure up to national disaster response standards, noting that the federal plan advises state and local emergency managers not to expect federal aid for 72 to 96 hours, and base their own preparedness efforts on the need to be self-sufficient for at least that period.

So, a long standing ground rule for all state and local governments has been to be self-sufficient for at least 72 hours, which puts the federal response late Wednesday/early Thursday pretty much exactly when they said it would be.

[Vashner]

We need to make a Spurstalk SHTF Kit List...

Survival stuff plus like a Spurstalk Emergency Spurs Fan tshirts..
So when we are wiped out and in Houston we can find each other...

I am breaking my own rule right now with no bottled water and I had to eat
a lot of the canned foods cause expire dates where coming up (from my post 911 stash).

[Nbadan]

AHF is intentional manipulating the information in the article he linked to. This is what the article actually says...

Others who went out of their way to offer help were turned down, such as Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, who told reporters his city had offered emergency, medical and technical help as early as last Sunday to FEMA but was turned down. Only a single tank truck was requested, Daley said. Red tape kept the American Ambulance Association from sending 300 emergency vehicles from Florida to the flood zone, according to former senator John Breaux (D-La.) They were told to get permission from the General Services Administration. "GSA said they had to have FEMA ask for it," Breaux told CNN. "As a result they weren't sent."

Federal authorities say there is blame enough to go around. In a news conference yesterday, Chertoff cautioned against "finger-pointing" and said no one had been equipped to handle what amounted to two simultaneous disasters -- the hurricane and subsequent levee break.

Other federal and state officials pointed to Louisiana's failure to measure up to national disaster response standards, noting that the federal plan advises state and local emergency managers not to expect federal aid for 72 to 96 hours, and base their own preparedness efforts on the need to be self-sufficient for at least that period. "Fundamentally the first breakdown occurred at the local level," said one state official who works with FEMA. "Did the city have the situational awareness of what was going on within its borders? The answer was no."

So FEMA did everything it could to sabotage preparedness before the storm and emergency search and rescue efforts after the storms, then they turn around and conveniently blame the Democratic Governor and Democratic Mayor for not being better prepare. en typical.

Sorry about the rant in this forum Kori but there is so much misinformation going on in this thread it is disgusting.

[travis2]

AHF is intentional manipulating the information in the article he linked to. This is what the article actually says...



So FEMA did everything it could to sabotage preparedness before the storm and emergency search and rescue efforts after the storms, then they turn around and conveniently blame the Democratic Governor and Democratic Mayor for not being better prepare. en typical.

Sorry about the rant in this forum Kori but there is so much misinformation going on in this thread it is disgusting.

STFU, Dan. Keep your own misinformation, miscategorizations, and outright lies in the Liars Forum where it (and you) belong.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'm not manipulating anything. It's there in black and white.

There's some irony in NBADallah accusing anyone of manipulating a story to fit their argument, but it's so thick I'm having trouble finding a knife to cut it with.

I know this story breaks your heart because it's a reputable news organization that doesn't jive with your "it's all Bush's fault" argument, but it's time for you to grow up, take off the tin foil hat, and realize that those aren't black helicopters over your house, just flies.

[Hook Dem]

I'm not manipulating anything. It's there in black and white.

There's some irony in NBADallah accusing anyone of manipulating a story to fit their argument, but it's so thick I'm having trouble finding a knife to cut it with.

I know this story breaks your heart because it's a reputable news organization that doesn't jive with your "it's all Bush's fault" argument, but it's time for you to grow up, take off the tin foil hat, and realize that those aren't black helicopters over house, just flies.

Even the flies wouldn't buy into Dan's bull !

[Clandestino]

ing hilarious!

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

55 Defining Images of Hurricane Katrina (Poynter.org)

55 photos in Flash. Pretty powerful stuff.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

One more.

[Jelly]

Today on NPR, they were interviewing people from various relief agencies. Someone called in and asked if it was true that the Red Cross tried to get in to deliver aid in the early aftermath but was denied access by the government. The woman confirmed that the Louisiana state government did, in fact, deny the Red Cross access before and in the immediate aftermath. State officials told the Red Cross that if the people were given aid, they would not evacuate.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

The woman confirmed that the Louisiana state government did, in fact, deny the Red Cross access before and in the immediate aftermath.

But but but, that's not what Dan said.

[Jelly]

But but but, that's not what Dan said.

According to NPR, attempts to reach NBADan for comment were unsuccessful.

[MannyIsGod]

I think it is pretty safe to say that all levels of government failed their cons uants. Horrible.

[MiNuS]

I think it is pretty safe to say that all levels of government failed their cons uants. Horrible.

its also pretty safe to say that the President,the executive of the United States government was asleep once again.

[MannyIsGod]

its also pretty safe to say that the President,the executive of the United States government was asleep once again.

Political Forum.

What about that don't you idiots understand?

[Clandestino]

I think it is pretty safe to say that all levels of government failed their cons uants. Horrible.

haha.. you either!