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    Yeah, he was absolutely the right pick. There were votes for Mark Williams and Ousmane Dieng. Wiliams would have been good, but massive injury problems. Dieng is a complete bust. The only real miss was Jay Wiliiams and we had a glut of guards. I'm pleased to have you point out the good pick!
    Jalen Williams was the right pick, even Jalen Duren would have been better.

    So no he wasn't absolutely the right pick.

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    RC- Drunkford, you're kidding me if you don't think Fleming an NBA player.

    He can shoot 3s at 4 to 5 feet behind 3-point line with an hand on his face.

    This kind of shooting will translate into NBA. Very hard to close out.

    With hard close-out, he can drive to the basket and dunk. very efficient.
    so, if he is that great at all those things, why was he only the low usage #3 option on the #84 ranked team in the country?

    and why don‘t we just offer Malik Williams a big fat contract, before an other team finds out he shoots 40% on 3s and grabs 10 rebounds.

    who cares if that‘s numbers from the g league, he hits them there, he hits them anywhere, right?

    oh, ………he played in the NBA for the Raptors………..7 games. Guess what, he didn’t deliver the same numbers. noone can figure out why.

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    RC- Drunkford, you're kidding me if you don't think Fleming an NBA player.

    He can shoot 3s at 4 to 5 feet behind 3-point line with an hand on his face.

    This kind of shooting will translate into NBA. Very hard to close out.

    With hard close-out, he can drive to the basket and dunk. very efficient.
    so, if he is that great at all those things, why was he only the low usage #3 option on the #84 ranked team in the country?

    and why don‘t we just offer Malik Williams a big fat contract, before an other team finds out he shoots 40% on 3s and grabs 10 rebounds.

    who cares if that‘s numbers from the g league, he hits them there, he hits them anywhere, right?

    oh, ………he played in the NBA for the Raptors………..7 games. Guess what, he didn’t deliver the same numbers. noone can figure out why.

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    Similar Games, both are primarily catch and shoot offensive players.
    I've seen tape on this guy and most of his baskets are catch and shoot shots witht the occasional hesitation drive to the basket and step back shot.


    Kon has more size so he won't struggle to get off shots as much as Sheppard but will struggle with his lack of vertical lift in the NBA making him more of a primarily a catch and shoot perimeter threat.
    There is value in those players but I don't see him as a strong option for a starter in the NBA and for sure not at SF where the spurs need to upgrade.
    They can both shoot and they are both white. But we all know that's all you ever see anyway

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    They can both shoot and they are both white. But we all know that's all you ever see anyway
    That's not all I see. I called McNeeley more athletic than both of them. Sheppard and Kon are more athletically challeneged than McNeeley. All are white

    Sheppard and Kon will have similar games as primarily catch and shoot shooters in the NBA. Their lack of athleticism will limit their upside.

    The black player is the far superior player in the NBA. That's fact. Call it racist if you want, fact is fact. Of course there are a handful of exceptions.

    75% of the league is black and most of your league wide all stars are black players. Facts are what they are.

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    The black player is the far superior player in the NBA. That's fact.
    Ok we know. You'll keep telling us.

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    I bet it is eating you up inside that the best player in the league is white and unathletic

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    so, if he is that great at all those things, why was he only the low usage #3 option on the #84 ranked team in the country?

    and why don‘t we just offer Malik Williams a big fat contract, before an other team finds out he shoots 40% on 3s and grabs 10 rebounds.

    who cares if that‘s numbers from the g league, he hits them there, he hits them anywhere, right?

    oh, ………he played in the NBA for the Raptors………..7 games. Guess what, he didn’t deliver the same numbers. noone can figure out why.

    You know Malik Williams only has 1.7 attempts for 3-points?

    Fleming shoots 4.5.

    When you shoot so many and make so many, it's no longer a fluke.

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    I bet it is eating you up inside that the best player in the league is white and unathletic
    An arguably 2 of the top 3....

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    14 days till the draft lottery.

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    An arguably 2 of the top 3....
    Then a rapid decline in white vs black top players

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    Then a rapid decline in white vs black top players
    Hurts don't it....lol

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    Rasheer Fleming is one of 6 players in the past 15 years who are 6'-9"+ tall and made 60+ 3-pointers with 38%+ accuracy.

    The rest of the list here:

    Kevin Durant,, Jabari Smith, Keegan Murray, Lauri Markkanen, Tyler Lydon

    Of the above 5 players, Tyler Lyon is the only one who was a bust. He injured his knee in his rookie reason and never the same person after.

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    Of the above 6 players, Fleming is the only one who had more than 40 blocks. Actually 52 blocks. Lauri second at 35 blocks.

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    An arguably 2 of the top 3....
    Add Flagg in there in a few years….

    Oh, Victor Wembanyama is half white I guess that must mean he’s genetically weak

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    Hurts don't it....lol
    What hurts?

    If you're trying to make the claim white players are better than black players in the nba you lose.

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    Rascal is amusing how he gets obsessed with a player. Nobody in the world would pick McNeeley over Knueppel at this point, yet here we are.

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    What hurts?

    If you're trying to make the claim white players are better than black players in the nba you lose.
    Of course not... I don't care about race like you do... I just find your racism amusing..

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    I don't care about black and white, but while playing 2K it help me to have some mix of them, as I can recognise them more easily. This said, gimme some Knueppel, McNeely and Wolf.

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    You know Malik Williams only has 1.7 attempts for 3-points?

    Fleming shoots 4.5.

    When you shoot so many and make so many, it's no longer a fluke.
    so you can't even do a little internet research? Malik Willimans had 5.5 3PA last season, made 2.2. he is the only player in the league to get 10+ rebounds who shot 39+% on 3s.

    he is pretty much the same player Fleming is, even taller.

    yet he is still in the g league. why? because he isn't skilled enough for the NBA and g league numbers are still g league numbers.

    Fleming produced his numbers in pretty low level compe ion and he failed big time when it counted. same story last season. a junior with more than 100 college games under his belt wasn't even able to dominate NIT compe ion. yet you compare his numbers to Durant's and call him a sure fire lottery pick........jesus.

    the point isn't that Fleming can't become a useful NBA player. maybe he will. the point is, you don't use a lottery pick on a player like him. he is a 2nd rounder you might take a flyer on.

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    Parker has some of the best break downs out there.

    My big lean is to trade up in the draft and try to poach a player like this. The fit may not be the best, but I think it will be.

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    Parker has some of the best break downs out there.

    My big lean is to trade up in the draft and try to poach a player like this. The fit may not be the best, but I think it will be.
    Fit seems fine. A replacement for Vassell.

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    The first couple pages of this thread are some wild takes...

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    We jave to hopevwe strike gold with the Atlanta pick. I don't see us tanking next year.
    This is my 'bad take' contribution to this thread early on..lol

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    This is my 'bad take' contribution to this thread early on..lol
    You were right, just that Wemby got hurt.

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