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    MiamiHeat: What I say is the law and you all are wrong and my don't stink because I am the all knowing and powerful MiamiHeat and the true God of the Universe.

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    Here's a list of some of them :


    Osiris

    Osiris’s “son” or renewed incarnation, Horus, shares the following in common with Jesus:

    --Horus was born of the virgin (FALSE -- not a virgin) Isis-Merion (FALSE -- Merion is never appended to Isis) December 25 (FALSE -- November 15, roughly) in a cave/manger (FALSE -- a swamp)with his birth being announced by a star in the East (FALSE -- fabrication) and attended by three wise men.(FALSE -- fabrication, and note that the number of Magi in the biblical account is never defined)
    --His earthly father was named “Seb” (“Joseph”). (FALSE -- the Egyptian name Seb is not related to the Hebrew name Joseph, and Seb is Osisris' father, not Horus'.)
    --He was of royal descent.
    --At at 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple,(FALSE -- fabrication) and at 30, he was baptized (FALSE -- fabrication) having disappeared for 18 years.
    --Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by “Anup the Baptizer” (“John the Baptist”), who was decapitated.(FALSE -- fabrication. There is no "Anup the Baptizer and Horus was never baptized.)
    --He had 12 desciples, two of who were his “witnesses” and were named “Anup” and “Aan” (the two “Johns”).(FALSE -- Horus had four disciples, sixteen other followers, and an indeterminate number of soldiers who fought for him. None were named "Anup" or "Aan.")
    --He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus (“El-Osiris”), from the dead.(FALSE -- Horus never raised Osiris from the dead, nor is Osiris ever referred to as "El-Azarus.")
    --Horus walked on water. (FALSE -- fabrication)
    --His personal epithet was “Iusa,” the “ever-becoming son” of “Ptah,” the “Father.” He was thus called “Holy Child.” (FALSE -- fabrication)
    --He delivered a “Sermon on the Mount” and his followers recounted the “Sayings of Iusa.” (FALSE -- fabrication)
    --Horus was transfigured on the Mount. (FALSE -- fabrication)
    --He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected. (FALSE -- Horus dies and is cast into pieces into the Nile. The pieces are retrieved by a crocodile at Osiris' request.)
    --He was also the “Way, the Truth, the Light,” “Messiah,” “God’s Anointed Son,” “the “Son of Man,” the “Good Shepherd,” the “Lamb of God,” the “Word made flesh,” the “Word of Truth,” etc. (FALSE -- Horus had several les, such as "Avenger of his Father" and "Great God," but none of the names associated with Jesus)
    --He was “the Fisher” and was associated with the Fish (“Ichthys”), Lamb and Lion. (FALSE -- there is an Egyptian god named Oannes who was half-fish and half-man. Horus was never connected with the terms "fish," "lamb," or "lion." )
    --He came to fulfill the Law. (FALSE -- what "Law" was supposed to be fulfilled in Egyptian mythology?)
    --Horus was called “the KRST,” or “Anointed One.” (FALSE -- fabrication. Krst doesn't even mean "anointed one" in Egyptian. It means "burial.")
    --Like Jesus, “Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years.” (FALSE -- fabrication)
    These threads are repe ive and tedious. I am bored with them, but when this nonsense about "Jesus is the sun god" gets recycled, I will set the record straight.

    Atheism is put out there as the "rationalist" belief of "independent thinkers," but then invariably some doofus brings up this fic ious list of alleged parallels between Jesus and various other "gods," and scores an own goal while thinking he's just the suparsmartsest. The vast majority of the "parallels" are fabricated. They do not exist in the source do ents. The author made them up.

    Perhaps Achayra S was not a crackpot, but rather a savvy Christian apologist who set this landmine out there for the unsuspecting self-styled atheist "freethinker" to embarass himself.

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    This is NOT about saying "God doesn't exist"

    This is about -CHRISTIANITY and it's God-
    Silly me. Here I was thinking this was a thread led "Is there a God?"

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    B2B and Miami Heat - there is nothing to argue or debate. We believe all history started with Genesis - roughly 6,000 or so years ago. So we also believe NOTHING pre-dates the mention of a Savior - Jesus Christ. All those other pagan religions came after the creation of the world - and the bible mentions many of those pagan religions - and they're all false.

    We cannot debate because we come from completely different spheres of belief. None of your so-called "facts" are of any consequence to us because we have a faith that cannot be explained. You think all that information is irrefutable proof that Jesus and christianity are false. We will never believe that - no matter how much "proof" you put out there. You can call us stupid or gullible or whatever - it doesn't matter to us - our faith is stronger than that!

    We look at you and say again - the fool has said in his heart there is no God. Now you can argue that you never said there was no God. But to deny WHO he is - and especially to deny who Jesus is - is to deny the existence of the one true God.

    We can argue from now until the end of time and you will never change my mind or my beliefs, and I, unfortunately, will probably not change yours. So let's just agree to disagree - time will tell which of us was right!

    But I sincerely believe that someday you will kneel before almighty God and you will have to answer for why you didn't believe - but then it will be too late to change your mind.

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    Oh, in that case, I agree. It's not possible to disprove a 'general' God.

    But CHRISTIANITY is provable to be false.


    For all we know, there is a God and his favorite team is the Miami Dolphins and the San Antonio Spurs and right now he is in another galaxy making walking talking chewbacca's on a planet far far away
    Wrong again old wise one. You have NOT proven that Jesus Christ never existed, or walked on water, or rose from the dead. Not one single shred of evidence. A lot of data but not true indisputable facts. NONE!!

    Now damnit STFU!!!

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    But I sincerely believe that someday you will kneel before almighty God and you will have to answer for why you didn't believe - but then it will be too late to change your mind.
    Because you tell god to be a judgemental prick?

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    there should be a god/religion forum so that the club/political forum don't get spammed with this bull all the time. can we at least mix it up some?

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    EXTRA STOUT :

    LAUGH OUT LOUD.

    That is such BLATANT MISINFORMATION from christian sources. Sad. Complete lies
    Last edited by MiamiHeat; 12-29-2008 at 05:55 PM.

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    How many ridiculous ideas can you come here with? Happiness requires there to be ghosts and all other kinds of paranormal mumjo jumbo?
    So according to you if tell a monkey a joke and he will laugh? I can show a dog the movie Old yeller and he will cry? You need a soul or a spirit to have feelings of love, hate,and jealousy.






    Even if he shoots himself right now like you're telling him to do? I wonder
    what Jesus would think of someone egging a person on to commit suicide?

    I am sure if there is a GOD he will support me when it comes to Miami or B2B offing themselves he may want to have a word with them.

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    B2B and Miami Heat - there is nothing to argue or debate. We believe all history started with Genesis - roughly 6,000 or so years ago. So we also believe NOTHING pre-dates the mention of a Savior - Jesus Christ. .


    oh boy

    6,000 years?

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    Because according to you there should be no such thing as happiness. That is an emotion and since we came from space dust and evolved from the fish we should not have emotions. By having happiness your proving your more than just DNA you have a spirit.


    I never said any of that. I never said we shouldn't be happy.






    I don't care about religion I am only here to prove there is someone out their who placed us here. And I am sure i will do that very thing before you die.
    Look I get what you're doing. Its a weak attempt to get me to melt by posting statements that never came out of my mouth.

    I guess thats what you've come to. There was a point in time when I found you humorous. So as of right now all you've boiled down to is making up lies about my statements to get a pathetic laugh or two. The quality of your work is truely suffering if you've relegated yourself to these depths.

    I'm done responding to you unless you can either be funny again or want a serious debate.

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    I am sure if there is a GOD he will support me when it comes to Miami or B2B offing themselves he may want to have a word with them.
    You don't know the first thing about Christianity if that's what you think

    I haven't practiced Christianity for over 10 years and even I know more than you about your own religion

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    So according to you i tell a monkey a joke and he will laugh? I can show a dog the movie Old yeller and he will cry? You need a soul or a spirit to have feelings of love, hate,and jealousy.
    So no other animal is jealous? A dog needs a soul to bond with its owner? If the dog has a soul, why can't the dog go to heaven too? If the dog doesn't, then all dogs would logically have to be completely indifferent to humans, right?

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    You don't know the first thing about Christianity if that's what you think

    I haven't practiced Christianity for over 10 years and even I know more than you about your own religion
    Then show me the way brother! What time is church service Sunday?

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    Look I get what you're doing. Its a weak attempt to get me to melt by posting statements that never came out of my mouth.

    I guess thats what you've come to. There was a point in time when I found you humorous. So as of right now all you've boiled down to is making up lies about my statements to get a pathetic laugh or two. The quality of your work is truely suffering if you've relegated yourself to these depths.

    I'm done responding to you unless you can either be funny again or want a serious debate.
    Translation: I have no come backs to the truth.

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    Perhaps Achayra S was not a crackpot, but rather a savvy Christian apologist who set this landmine out there for the unsuspecting self-styled atheist "freethinker" to embarass himself.
    I for one think she's a bit of a crackpot. Most of her work is opinion at best.

    Lets not act as if she's the only one with these views.

    Since you reference a large portion of this info as fabrication would you care to offer some supporting information to back up your statements?

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    Because you tell god to be a judgemental prick?
    Oh no - why would I even think I could tell the creator of the universe anything?! God said it - I didn't. It's right there in the bible - but of course, people like you don't believe the bible, so I guess you can go on your merry way.

    But the bible also says "it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.

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    B2B and Miami Heat - there is nothing to argue or debate. We believe all history started with Genesis - roughly 6,000 or so years ago. So we also believe NOTHING pre-dates the mention of a Savior - Jesus Christ. All those other pagan religions came after the creation of the world - and the bible mentions many of those pagan religions - and they're all false.

    We cannot debate because we come from completely different spheres of belief. None of your so-called "facts" are of any consequence to us because we have a faith that cannot be explained. You think all that information is irrefutable proof that Jesus and christianity are false. We will never believe that - no matter how much "proof" you put out there. You can call us stupid or gullible or whatever - it doesn't matter to us - our faith is stronger than that!

    We look at you and say again - the fool has said in his heart there is no God. Now you can argue that you never said there was no God. But to deny WHO he is - and especially to deny who Jesus is - is to deny the existence of the one true God.

    We can argue from now until the end of time and you will never change my mind or my beliefs, and I, unfortunately, will probably not change yours. So let's just agree to disagree - time will tell which of us was right!

    But I sincerely believe that someday you will kneel before almighty God and you will have to answer for why you didn't believe - but then it will be too late to change your mind.
    How do you explain dinosaurs?

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    LAUGH OUT LOUD.

    That is such BLATANT MISINFORMATION from christian sources. Sad.
    Here's a translation of the Book of the Dead. This is what would be called a "source do ent." Please cite the plates where the alleged carbon-copy parallels to Jesus are found.

    Link

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    Dinosaurs (Greek δεινόσαυρος, deinosauros) were the dominant vertebrate animals of terrestrial ecosystems for over 160 million years, from the late Triassic period (about 230 million years ago) until the end of the Cretaceous period (65 million years ago), when most of them became extinct in the Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event
    Seriously? Thats all a lie? Dinosaurs aren't real? The fossils are what? Fake?

    I'm not being sarcastic I'd like to know how you explain them.

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    How do you explain dinosaurs?
    What's to explain? They were created by God, they existed at one time, and now they don't. I just don't buy into the dating of the world as being billions of years old. I did a paper on this in college that explained the fallacies of carbon dating - but I don't have all the facts readily available right now.

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    who the is acharya S?

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    there should be a god/religion forum so that the club/political forum don't get spammed with this bull all the time. can we at least mix it up some?
    How about a forum for when someone has a birthday?
    How about a forum for when someone is sick and needs prayers?
    How about a forum for talking about jobs?
    How about a forum for cooking tips?
    How about a forum for movies to watch?
    How about a forum for when Tpark goes on a date?
    How about a forum for when Manny wins money playing inline poker?

    It's the club post more and less.

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    Seriously? Thats all a lie? Dinosaurs aren't real? The fossils are what? Fake?

    I'm not being sarcastic I'd like to know how you explain them.
    Those arguments are lame at best. Weak..very weak. If you choose to believe or disbelieve in dinosaurs is your decision just as my belief in God and Jesus Christ is my decision. If you dont' believe then don't. Nobody is forcing you so why does it bother you so much?
    You need a life coach to get over your insecurities and fear about religion.

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    What's to explain? They were created by God, they existed at one time, and now they don't. I just don't buy into the dating of the world as being billions of years old. I did a paper on this in college that explained the fallacies of carbon dating - but I don't have all the facts readily available right now.
    I wrote an A+ paper in college arguing the earth was the center of the solar system for a history of science class. It was the easiest argument to ever make, since all I had to do was to invoke religion.

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