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    The Spurs paid $20 million for his rehab and Pop said publicly many times 'he'll play when he's ready.' As soon as he was 'fine to play' he and his Uncle demanded a trade to the Lakers. RC said at first sorry you're under contract, but eventually decided he was 'gone' and decided to move on. He ripped the Spurs off anyway you cut it. Never thought I'd be rooting for GSW, but you can bet I am. 'A class act' my ass.

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    How many times has Manu begged Pop to play him but Pop sat him out to protect him from himself. Also how many times has Manu played with a fractured arm, nose, etc. and came back pretty quickly from losing one of his balls he lost for the team to win.
    Manu had damn mean twenty years in the league... He has had much more opportunities to play through injuries than Kawhi... Besides Kawhi has played while hurt... The same way Manu keeps getting small injuries that keep him out, but he comes back, same with Kawhi... Many Parker, AND Duncan ALL have had injuries that kept them out of entire playoff runs... Not just one or two games here and there.. We pain this false narrative about them always being injured but playing regardless, and Kawhi as never playing through anything... Completely false... The only playoff run Kawhi has ever missed was 2017 when he injured the same ankle three times in the span of a week, and twice in one game... Once intentionally...the guy played on his hurt ankle until he simply couldn't walk... At the time NO ONE called him soft... But because yall are a bunch of hurt pussy es u wanna rewrite history And even tthe after knowing Zaza took Kawhi out on purpose Pop didn't defend him in the post game conference...

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    Once the big 3 passed the baton over to Leonard, he failed to show any leadership. Hiding behind your wannabe agent uncle's skirts and letting him speak for you two years later shows no leadership what so ever.
    He's damned sure showing it in Toronto.

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    Manu had damn mean twenty years in the league... He has had much more opportunities to play through injuries than Kawhi... Besides Kawhi has played while hurt... The same way Manu keeps getting small injuries that keep him out, but he comes back, same with Kawhi... Many Parker, AND Duncan ALL have had injuries that kept them out of entire playoff runs... Not just one or two games here and there.. We pain this false narrative about them always being injured but playing regardless, and Kawhi as never playing through anything... Completely false... The only playoff run Kawhi has ever missed was 2017 when he injured the same ankle three times in the span of a week, and twice in one game... Once intentionally...the guy played on his hurt ankle until he simply couldn't walk... At the time NO ONE called him soft... But because yall are a bunch of hurt pussy es u wanna rewrite history And even tthe after knowing Zaza took Kawhi out on purpose Pop didn't defend him in the post game conference...

























































































































































































































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    Manu had damn mean twenty years in the league... He has had much more opportunities to play through injuries than Kawhi... Besides Kawhi has played while hurt... The same way Manu keeps getting small injuries that keep him out, but he comes back, same with Kawhi... Many Parker, AND Duncan ALL have had injuries that kept them out of entire playoff runs... Not just one or two games here and there.. We pain this false narrative about them always being injured but playing regardless, and Kawhi as never playing through anything... Completely false... The only playoff run Kawhi has ever missed was 2017 when he injured the same ankle three times in the span of a week, and twice in one game... Once intentionally...the guy played on his hurt ankle until he simply couldn't walk... At the time NO ONE called him soft... But because yall are a bunch of hurt pussy es u wanna rewrite history And even tthe after knowing Zaza took Kawhi out on purpose Pop didn't defend him in the post game conference...

    And you complain about "rewriting history."


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    Nephew wants out, fakes an injury to use as an excuse to leave, throws shade, through his uncle, at the organization that made him what he is. Case closed.

    PS: leader lol
    Period

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    A leader doesn't hide. Spurs couldn't even reach Kawhi when he went to China to send their security, etc. People say it was miscommunication, but it was Kawhi who wasn't reachable. Spurs always tried to communicate
    yup and I'm not even a huge fan of Pop's

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    Kawhi slurpers can't be reasoned with. Their nephew hero can do no wrong.

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    I remember them reporting that the Spurs couldn't meet with Kawhi face to face, and that he avoided them. I imagine it would get pretty frustrating for a team, when your player won't communicate. I think the Spurs were a lot less outspoken than I would have been.

    Since you seem to believe what Uncle Dennis says, explain the "lack of trust" thing. Kawhi trusted the Spurs to pay his ing salary, and they did that. He trusted them to allow him to run off to New York to see his own medical people, and not keep the Spurs in the loop. Exactly what did they want the Spurs to do that they couldn't trust them to do?

    The Spurs trusted Kawhi and his people to communicate. And they trusted that he wouldn't them over in the trade market, by demanding that he go to a specific city.

    Which looks more trustworthy to you?
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    Is it hard to think that despite the speculation, that he is actually a classy guy that doesn't want to put out dirt?
    classy

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    And you complain about "rewriting history."

    I'm not on Kawhis side. that pussy but I do think this press conference was a tad late. Wasn't it the next day? I remember being pissed that Pop didn't respond immediately and felt this was an acting job by Pop to fix the fact that he didn't defend Kawi early enough. Yup that's exactly what I remember feeling. I think even Skip Bayless said something similar that Pop was acting.

    Anyhow, Kawhi's ass

    EDIT: To add Skip Bayless video about how Pop waited too long and was a staged interview...

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    He was in COMMUNIST CHINA, you nitwit.

    Where his security detail was a unit from the frickin Chinese army, because it's a frickin communist dictatorship and he was a notable foreigner, you nitwit.

    He was there for 6 days, you nitwit. On an official NBA visit, you nitwit. With a published itinerary, you nitwit. Which the Spurs knew about in advance, you nitwit.

    Look, knock it off. Really. Just stop it. Moron.

    Here's a story about the official NBA press release BEFORE the trip:

    https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/s...onards-arrival

    Here's another one for you to read. Do that. Read it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ksa...-antonio-spurs

    According to that KSAT story, the many photos and video taken during the trip were provided to them courtesy of the Spurs themselves. Who you claim were in a panic because they didn't know what was happening. You nitwit.

    Look, characters like Michael C. Wright are hired by outfits like ESPN to do only one thing - fill air time between commercials. They are not hired to do research. They are not hired to provide facts. They are not hired even to make any sense. They are hired for only that one job. To fill air time. That is all.

    But sure, you heard it on the internet so you know it has to be true.
    even in China, you are allowed to bring your own entourage/security (as a notable foreigner) and the Chinese Govt probably assign their own security unit in addition to help beef up security etc.

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    He was in COMMUNIST CHINA, you nitwit.

    Where his security detail was a unit from the frickin Chinese army, because it's a frickin communist dictatorship and he was a notable foreigner, you nitwit.

    He was there for 6 days, you nitwit. On an official NBA visit, you nitwit. With a published itinerary, you nitwit. Which the Spurs knew about in advance, you nitwit.

    Look, knock it off. Really. Just stop it. Moron.

    Here's a story about the official NBA press release BEFORE the trip:

    https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/s...onards-arrival

    Here's another one for you to read. Do that. Read it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ksa...-antonio-spurs

    According to that KSAT story, the many photos and video taken during the trip were provided to them courtesy of the Spurs themselves. Who you claim were in a panic because they didn't know what was happening. You nitwit.

    Look, characters like Michael C. Wright are hired by outfits like ESPN to do only one thing - fill air time between commercials. They are not hired to do research. They are not hired to provide facts. They are not hired even to make any sense. They are hired for only that one job. To fill air time. That is all.

    But sure, you heard it on the internet so you know it has to be true.
    Listen , whatever got mentioned in the media as "The Spurs" and "Spurs staff" that was with him while rehabbing is most likely Kawhi's friend JeremyCastleberry who got hired by the Spurs. They lost track then and there, of course he still came in at media day, etc. but that's the point where they weren't in the loop like they used to be about the injury. The main mistake was giving Kawhi's camp control over the rehab process before even knowing if the Spurs rehab process actually worked. And apparently his group never got him healthy and it's still a lingering issue.

    Spurs handed over the rehab process to his group on August 8th. Now look at the date of the China trip you in bum

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    Nitwit... ... ing bum.

    This closure process is certainly difficult.

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    Listen, you insane lying head, it was an official trip on behalf of the NBA and also Jordan Brands, with a published itinerary, that the Spurs knew about in advance, and the Spurs knew about every day, and what he was doing, because they received photos and video to distribute to local media.

    You moron.

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    Instead of firing them, why doesn't Kawhi sue them for malpractice? BOTH sides subject to discovery, lengthy depositions, etc. Bring in ALL the doctors and therapists that saw Kawhi. Then a jury trial to determine the truth. Some how I dont think Kawhi would want any part of this process. He couldn't hide or be shielded by his group.
    I'm fairly sure he would've sued if it ended up in a career-ender for him trying to play on a bum leg. The fact that the team eventually relented and let him do his off-team recovery points that somebody screwed up.


    Why would they be punished? Leonard is still needing "loading management" and laboring on that bad leg.

    Leonard's representation said it could go away with rest and rehab, the Spurs medical staff said it would be chronic and he would deal with this injury throughout the remainder of career. Seems they were right.....

    Also, did they get fired when they actually misdiagnosed Ian Mahinmi years ago (and he missed a year of his career) or the supposed misdiagnosis of Pau Gasol this season?
    The Spurs do 'load management' even if there's no injury in sight, so I don't think one thing is really related to the other. The larger point is that every player runs through injuries in their careers, and he looks healthy enough to be playing another NBA Finals...

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    Spurs fans throwing at Spurs players blaming them for Kawhi are garbage.. The whole team was busting their ass off to get the Spurs in the POs while dat pos Kawhi was in NY doing "rehab", Kawhi never showed support neither sit on the bench rooting for his teammates.. and people are blaming the players who were mad after passing one season hearing the star of the team will come back then cancel then announce he will back then cancel.. rinse and repeat ?

    gtofh tbh.. Manu, TP, Pop, FO.. have been soft calling out this mother er.

    The my teammates and FO were mean to me that's why I wanted to leave meme is pure bull
    The San Antonio Spurs held a players-only meeting to implore All-NBA forward Kawhi Leonard to return to the lineup and help the team in its push for the playoffs, league sources told ESPN.

    Spurs guard Tony Parker, a four-time NBA champion, quarterbacked the meeting after the team's victory over Minnesota on Saturday night. Non-players were asked to leave the locker room, a source told Michael C. Wright.


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    The San Antonio Spurs held a players-only meeting to implore All-NBA forward Kawhi Leonard to return to the lineup and help the team in its push for the playoffs, league sources told ESPN.

    Spurs guard Tony Parker, a four-time NBA champion, quarterbacked the meeting after the team's victory over Minnesota on Saturday night. Non-players were asked to leave the locker room, a source told Michael C. Wright.


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    dude we are in 2019.. the tony/manu is getting old.. time to find another schtick

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    The mistrust surrounding the injury definitely played a prominent role; Uncle Dennis isn't lying about that. It's difficult to point to the exact piece of hay that broke the camel's back but this was up there.

    However, the downfall was actually many years in the making. There are layers to it.

    The reason I don't say more is that to do so, I'd have to name names. There are like four or five prominent people right in the middle of the drama that media members don't really mention -- or only mention peripherally. Even if I drop vague hints, it'd take ST about five minutes to guess the names.

    Everyone I've emailed with regarding further details has come to the same conclusion: not worth the consequences. The people involved would deny it and there's a good chance of being blackballed.

    That said, I know some of the ESPN decision makers are now weighing whether to divulge more. With the Raptors in the Finals, they know it'd be a huge story that could be worth the blowback. I'd say there's a 50/50 chance they'll publish it in the next week.
    Does it involve a three way with two of the Spurs Dancers?
    Can you give us a hint about that?

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    I was so excited with that China trip, like wow Kawhi is going global and the Spurs will continue to bask in adoration from across the world. Then it came crashing down.

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    And you complain about "rewriting history."

    You are either stupid or lying... Or didn't watch the games... Pop DIDN'T defend Kawhi in the post game... And he got a LOT of heat for it on this same forum... And only after several days passed did he come out against Zaza... U clearly don't know

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    You are either stupid or lying... Or didn't watch the games... Pop DIDN'T defend Kawhi in the post game... And he got a LOT of heat for it on this same forum... And only after several days passed did he come out against Zaza... U clearly don't know
    Several days? It was the next day, and he compared what Zaza did to manslaughter. It was hyperbolic, much like your defense of a goldbricking forward.

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    I'm fairly sure he would've sued if it ended up in a career-ender for him trying to play on a bum leg. The fact that the team eventually relented and let him do his off-team recovery points that somebody screwed up.




    The Spurs do 'load management' even if there's no injury in sight, so I don't think one thing is really related to the other. The larger point is that every player runs through injuries in their careers, and he looks healthy enough to be playing another NBA Finals...
    No , he's healthy enough to play and was at the tail end of last season. My point, which you glossed right over, is that the Spurs medical staff diagnosed him with a chronic issue that he'll have to play through (as he's doing now and Duncan did with his knee).

    His "group" claimed it would subside with rest and rehabilitation which it apparently hasn't after more than a year.

    So, again why should the medical staff be fired when they we're apparently correct in their diagnosis?

    And resting two or three (in most cases) older players while still annoying isn't comparable to a 27 year old athlete in his physical prime needing (22 games of) "time off."
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    According to Dr. Jason Garrett of Airrosti, Quitter has patellar tendinitis since he was in high school. This is an injury that he had prior to playing in the NBA. He was kneed in that area which aggravated it. Per Dr. Garrett, he will always have problems with that leg as it is a chronic injury and the Spurs staff were not responsible for something Quitter had as a pre-existing condition. The Spurs did everything right, rested the moron and allowed him to get other opinions/rehab in NY! The lack of trust BS from his money-grubbing Uncle Dennis! Quitter wouldn't even meet with Pop/RC, hiding from them in NY and not even sitting with his team during the playoffs! Spurs did everything they could for this treasonous moron! Throughout this bull, Pop was losing his wife while trying to get the team to the playoffs! I will never forgive Quitter and his Uncle Dennis can go to !

    To those so-called fake Spur fans kissing Quitter's ass, go to ! I stand with the Spurs! I bleed silver and black!
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    Several days? It was the next day, and he compared what Zaza did to manslaughter. It was hyperbolic, much like your defense of a goldbricking forward.
    U have already been exposed by everyone on here... Pop DIDN'T criticize Kawhi until AFTER he was criticized for not doing so

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