Stoudemire and Diaw have to be Suspended

[dbreiden83080]

All this really makes no diff. If the Suns players get suspened for game 5 and lose that game...the Suns will likely win game 6 due to emotion and help from the league. Thus it all comes down to a game 7 in Phoenix..

Spurs lost this game tonight Suns did not win it. If Amare and Diaw are gone for game 5 and the Spurs win it they will not make the same mistake again and they will end it in 6 at home.

[Amarelooms]

Talk about a homer....whatever ing Spurs broke a rule I hope sits. Whatever ing sun broke a rule I hope sits. ITS THAT ING SIMPLE!!!

You are only saying that cause you know that Amare and Diaw were on the court and likely no camera caught the Spurs bench. If the shoe was on the other foot you'd be saying that no suspensions are warranted. STOP BEING HOMERS and the acting like you're not....truly sad

[Gino20]

After watching it again several hundred times (only a slight exaggeration), I'm not so sure Amare and Diaw are going to be suspended. Diaw barely steps on to the court at all, Stoudemire is on the court but is walking around a couple of people and neither one of them get very far. Both were arguably in the vicinity of the bench, and neither was involved in the altercation, so I guess it comes down to how strict the league wants to be.

The problem hear is that they were both on the court during the altercation and it don't matter how far they got. The league is really strict on this crap. It needs to be cleared up after the season....

[Trainwreck2100]

of course youd say that, and i would say the same thing if it was eric piatkowski vs duncan and finley.

ITS THAT ING SIMPLE!!!

Here's the thing, Horry didn't go after Amare or Diaw, they moved when they should have stayed put, ITS THAT ING SIMPLE!!! They ed up royally.

[Amarelooms]

Spurs lost this game tonight Suns did not win it. If Amare and Diaw are gone for game 5 and the Spurs win it they will not make the same mistake again and they will end it in 6 at home.

Yeah ok cause you say so..league will not let a technicality det this series....refs will not give the Spurs any calls in game 6...it will go 7 regardless. Only team that might win in 6 is the Suns

[Tanya]

I have to say, Horry is a very smart person.
The spurs is gonna lose him who comes off the bench but the suns is gonna lose their starters.
Smart move Horry.

[ponky]

Talk about a homer....whatever ing Spurs broke a rule I hope sits. Whatever ing sun broke a rule I hope sits. ITS THAT ING SIMPLE!!!

it's not the rule, dumbass...show me....jesus, you'd think by now that dumbass fans would know better than to try to figure out stu jackson and stern when it comes to handing down these suspensions/fines etc. there is no built-in rule and as we've seen in the past, the league hasn't necessarily been totally consistent with their *rulings*...see the difference, "R-U-L-E".... "R-U-L-I-N-G-S" repeat after me....

[Gerryatrics]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, probably has, but just to remind people.

During an altercation, all players not participating in the game must remain in the immediate vicinity of their bench. Violators will be suspended, without pay, for a minimum of one game and fined up to $35,000. The suspensions will commence prior to the start of their next game. A team must have a minimum of eight players dressed and ready to play in every game. If five or more players leave the bench, the players will serve their suspensions alphabetically, according to the first letters of their last name. If seven bench players are suspended (assuming no participants are included), four of them would be suspended for the first game following the altercation. The remaining three would be suspended for the second game following the altercation.

[Amarelooms]

Isn't that a little harsh, especially when you've just said...
"I think Nash's small size makes the foul look much harder then it really was."
One game, yes...but the remainder of the series?

Diaw and Stoudemire, I agree with.

Bell, I'm not sure. I don't know about the altercation with Horry, but I think someone mentioned him throwing a punch somewhere in the game. If that's correct, then he should be suspended for a game.

And Nash? I still don't understand the fine. Someone else mentioned this too, but since he was stopped from going after Horry, and therefore wasn't successful in his "attack" I don't think he should be fined. Hm...but maybe the goal is to stop him before he attacks next time? I don't know. I really don't where he's concerned.

You have no idea what you;re talking about. Horry is gone for a min of 2 games without a doubt. Bell did nothing wrong.

[sunsbum]

Here's the thing, Horry didn't go after Amare or Diaw, they moved when they should have stayed put, ITS THAT ING SIMPLE!!! They ed up royally.

yea the sure did up didnt they. i cant believe those ers reacted to such a weeny hit on some scrub...who is that white guy anyways?

but yet bowen can sweep kick amare and knee that white guy in the bizalls and all he gets is a flagrent.. please.

[ATXSPUR]

of course youd say that, and i would say the same thing if it was eric piatkowski vs duncan and finley.

ITS THAT ING SIMPLE!!!

Rules are rules! Its not my fault your better players ed up. Own up and admit they ed up. We admit Horry ed up.

[Kevin Blackistone]

try to focus on the series, i know it's hard seeing as how some spurs fans continue to be obsessed with all things mavs related. why would davis have been suspended? he did nothing to warrant a suspension. see, the problem with treating me like some typical dallas area mavs fan is that i'm not...i don't live in dallas, i'm not a homer, i'm not above bashing my team for their poor play and i don't wish harm/suspensions/injuries on other players just so my team can get a leg up.

for me, i want to see a really good series and this is a really good series. it won't be a good series if the league hands out all these suspensions. it can still be a very good series without diaw and horry but without amare? no, that's b.s.

The rules are not in place only to ensure that you get to see a good series. The rules are in place to make sure the game is played on an even playing field and that no one gets killed. Rules and laws are not arbitrary to feelings. If that happens anarchy results. Follow the rules and follow the laws or pay the price. It's what keeps society in check.

[Gino20]

Isn't that a little harsh, especially when you've just said...
"I think Nash's small size makes the foul look much harder then it really was."
One game, yes...but the remainder of the series?

Diaw and Stoudemire, I agree with.

Bell, I'm not sure. I don't know about the altercation with Horry, but I think someone mentioned him throwing a punch somewhere in the game. If that's correct, then he should be suspended for a game.

And Nash? I still don't understand the fine. Someone else mentioned this too, but since he was stopped from going after Horry, and therefore wasn't successful in his "attack" I don't think he should be fined. Hm...but maybe the goal is to stop him before he attacks next time? I don't know. I really don't where he's concerned.

Maybe I was tough on Horry. I guess I just based it on the fact that he started everything. I am reflecting back to the brawl at the Palace (even though I realize they were different situations).

As for Nash, I thought I saw him give a small push to Horry. However, I maybe wrong...

[SpursFan0728]

try to focus on the series, i know it's hard seeing as how some spurs fans continue to be obsessed with all things mavs related. why would davis have been suspended? he did nothing to warrant a suspension. see, the problem with treating me like some typical dallas area mavs fan is that i'm not...i don't live in dallas, i'm not a homer, i'm not above bashing my team for their poor play and i don't wish harm/suspensions/injuries on other players just so my team can get a leg up.

for me, i want to see a really good series and this is a really good series. it won't be a good series if the league hands out all these suspensions. it can still be a very good series without diaw and horry but without amare? no, that's b.s.

If Amare did step on the court then he derserve to be suspended
who gives a if you want to watch a good series

[x_roux_x]

Manny -

Fine, don't suspend either one. But suspend Raja, he had two elbows (one to Oberto, one to Horry in retaliation) that were just as bad as what Horry did.

Fair?

I know....No one saw that elbow to oberto? And then later the shove with his forearm? Look Horry ed up plain and simple....But also nash sold that like a used gun to a street thug....semi flop there...but the foul was hard and it was wrong....I really dont believe Horry was really frustrated or intending to hurt anyone...I think he intended to give a hard foul toward the end of the game...but he should be suspended either way....Now as for Amare and Diaw as many have also stated to be fair with the letter of the law they must suspend them....it has happened to many players in many situations...this one is no different...Everyone says Horry started it so there should be no suspensions other then his...has that ever been the case in the NBA?....that is no excuse for other players to get involved physically which it was apparent both diaw and amare wanted to do(they were not ing walking to the damn score table and that is evident no matter what u suns ers say)..again like someone else said earlier, Wheres the logic in that? For something ty like that to happen players must make it worse? Nope...u get up, live with what the league will do...end of story no complaining...and it...It is unfair but thats the rules....I dont really care if they get suspended or not...I still say san antonio in game 5....no worries to me....we lost horry not duncan for christ sakes...but lets see how all this pans out...but I for one am tired of being at the end of ridicule when the spurs are the team taking the brunt of the cheap shots...not giving them all. Finally we give one..And no one wants any suspensions and no one wanteds this to happen but it did and "dem da breaks kid"...it ing happened and if there is any right or wrong with this league left all who broke the rules will be punished accordingly....just like every other team and players in a similar situation. Whatever the league sets in motion just it...no ing no complaining..its the way it is.... all the haters....

[monosylab1k]

I guess this whole thing proves that it's better to be an asshole than an idiot.

[ATXSPUR]

You are only saying that cause you know that Amare and Diaw were on the court and likely no camera caught the Spurs bench. If the shoe was on the other foot you'd be saying that no suspensions are warranted. STOP BEING HOMERS and the acting like you're not....truly sad

Why should the suns get a by? Just because their better players ed up?? Thats like Duncan punching somebody in the neck and us saying "But he's our best player so you cant take him away"

Whoever messes up sits. End of story.

[Kevin Blackistone]

yea the sure did up didnt they. i cant believe those ers reacted to such a weeny hit on some scrub...who is that white guy anyways?

but yet bowen can sweep kick amare and knee that white guy in the bizalls and all he gets is a flagrent.. please.

So you want rules and laws to be arbitrary to feelings? Let's see - what if a judge somewhere decides that he doesn't like you and feels you don't deserve to live. Should you then be executed for a parking violation? Just because it was deemed you were an asshole and didn't deserve to live?

That's exactly the kind of you are rallying behind. You want the league to bend the rules because it's the Suns and they are your team.

[ponky]

If Amare did step on the court then he derserve to be suspended
who gives a if you want to watch a good series

oh well, me then...i bet the league cares about a good series in what has been an otherwise terrible playoffs for the nba with all these five and done series

amare will be fine, so i guess, you too, WHINER

[sunsbum]

Rules are rules! Its not my fault your better players ed up. Own up and admit they ed up. We admit Horry ed up.

eh, im happy...you guys dominated us and we still managed to come away tied 2-2. bad choke job.

[Purple & Gold]

Stupid move by Horry, but I've seen way worse. Nash definitely embellished it and sold it pretty good. Funny thing is that if he wouldn't have sold it so good his teammates probably wouldn't have jumped up to his defense. Seems like embellishing it turned out to be a very bad move.

[SpursFanFirst]

You are scared and should be...if not for Nash sitting out the final min of the 1st game it might be 3-1. YOu lost HCA now and if both teams play at full strength the edge goes to the Suns...Spurs need all the help they can get

I really hate that argument because you don't know what would've happened.
If, if, if...
When you make arguments like this, you're making an opening for people to say "if the refs didn't screw my team" or "if the refs didn't help the suns, the spurs would've won..."
"If Horry wouldn't have made such a boneheaded move..."

It goes on and on.

[mexispur]

the guys on inside are right if they dont suspend these guys then how the is the leauge going to enforce the rule next time this happens

[Amarelooms]

Why should the suns get a by? Just because their better players ed up?? Thats like Duncan punching somebody in the neck and us saying "But he's our best player so you cant take him away"

Whoever messes up sits. End of story.

Not saying they should I'm saying the following things:

1. Horry is gone for 2-3 games
2. Diaw (who sucks btw) and Amare are gone for 1 game
3. If Spurs win game 5 they will lose game 6

Now carry on with your homer takes

[ATXSPUR]

eh, im happy...you guys dominated us and we still managed to come away tied 2-2. bad choke job.

we will see just how long you're happy. BACK TO YOUR LAIR TROLL!!!!!!!