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  1. #3751
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Jelly, you were right. Too bad you've been wrong about almost everything else.

  2. #3752
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    Red Cross is now reporting the Gov did not let them into the Superdome or Convention center with food, water and personal hygene kits...

  3. #3753
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    Jelly, you were right. Too bad you've been wrong about almost everything else.

    Now, why'd ya have to go and say that? Now I'm tempted to squander away hours methodically digging up and cataloging other dead arguments that I know I'm right on. [strenuously resisting the urge].
    You're just fueling my unhealthy obsession of needing to be right. Damn you Manny. Don't you know I've got a monkey on my back?

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    I know the monkey all too well.

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    I think it is pretty bad ass the Mexican Army is here to help feed the evacuees. Tacos for everyone!

  6. #3756
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    I think it is pretty bad ass the Mexican Army is here to help feed the evacuees. Tacos for everyone!
    Way to go landscapers!

    I found out today at work, that the Texas Department of Health will be offerring free methadone services to those evacuees in need of such treatment. Which is pretty cool since, IMO, methadone is pretty expensive for even the average person ($60/week) let alone these people left with nothing.

  7. #3757
    I come in Marklar. Marklar MM's Avatar
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    Tacos are the last thing they need. Gas galore.

  8. #3758
    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    Tacos are the last thing they need. Gas galore.
    They don't eat tacos all that far south into Mexico anyway. It's more like steak cutlet with mole and queso fresco with sliced mango.

    Or, some meat-and-cheese heap o' something that you load onto a piece of tortilla and chow down. Wait, that's kind of like a taco.

    Never mind.

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  10. #3760
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    Way to go landscapers!

    I found out today at work, that the Texas Department of Health will be offerring free methadone services to those evacuees in need of such treatment. Which is pretty cool since, IMO, methadone is pretty expensive for even the average person ($60/week) let alone these people left with nothing.
    Left with nothing vs a supply of Heroin? ... I have nothing against giving them methadone if they are heroin addicts but spare us the bleeding heart part..

    There is nothing "preatty cool" about H addiction...

  11. #3761
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    Left with nothing vs a supply of Heroin? ... I have nothing against giving them methadone if they are heroin addicts but spare us the bleeding heart part..

    There is nothing "preatty cool" about H addiction...
    I didn't say having an addiction was "pretty cool". The "pretty cool" was directed at TDH for making it available for no charge for those in need. Have you seen someone after they haven't fixed in 24 hours? Yeah I see it pretty much everyday, people need this stuff if they have an addiction. It's not like they are just handing it out on the street, in order to get it, you have to be enrolled in a program. I'm not sure how programs in Louisiana are run, but I know here in Texas dosing must be observed (unless you earn take home priveleges), and you must see a counselor and doctor throughout your treatment...however long that may be. It's not a shady thing, it's helping people.

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    Make em sweat it out I say.... they need a new start on life anyway...

    It's already been a week so unless they had something hidden good they have been out of stash for a while...

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    http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/katrina/

    Amazing photography.

  14. #3764
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    ah crap, I just posted that.

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    You were watching KSAT weren't you?

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    Yep, I just walked in and flipped it on and Steve Brown put out the website.

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    Why are they taking so much time to get people out of New Orleans?

    Either
    1. Your gonna leave them there if the want
    2. Your gonna clear the city...

    Because this going back and forth is not good for the rescue teams and survivors.

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    Yeah I agree. They are ing around way too much. I say let them stay. If they're there fending for themselves and not getting in the way, it.

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    Why are they taking so much time to get people out of New Orleans?

    Either
    1. Your gonna leave them there if the want
    2. Your gonna clear the city...

    Because this going back and forth is not good for the rescue teams and survivors.
    If they went in there and started yanking people out of there, then the media would be all over that too.

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    They can't make up there minds.. Is it martial law or not...

    Because I thought they had manditory the NIGHT of the storm.. then they cried get the people out.. But old sick people get to stay in filthy shack with no food or water?

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    Vasher, I think that even under "mandatory" evactuations they can't make you leave. They can just tell you that if you stay you will not be helped in the event of an emergency because of the order.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Or...1407&t=e&hl=en

    Google maps have imagery of new orleans too.

  22. #3772
    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
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    It's looking worse and worse for New Orleans.

    -------------------------------------------------------

    Contractors assess rebuilding challenges after Katrina

    Web Posted: 09/09/2005 12:00 AM CDT

    Adolfo Pesquera
    Express-News Business Writer


    San Antonio-based Beldon Roofing Co. has operated throughout the Southeast for a decade, but the challenges of putting roofing crews in Louisiana and Mississippi are greater than any Brad Beldon faced after last year's four-hurricane onslaught in Florida.

    (Edward A. Ornelas/Express-News)

    The company is still doing repairs in Florida and will be for another six to 12 months, Beldon said. He returned Monday from Metairie, La., where he spent a weekend assessing the obstacles facing his company.

    "This is worse than all four of them put together," Beldon said.

    The scale of destruction is estimated at five to 10 times what Florida suffered. The National Association of Home Builders noted, for example, that Florida's 2004 hurricane season destroyed about 27,500 houses. In New Orleans alone, most of the city's 200,000 homes will need to be replaced, the NAHB said.

    Initial assessments by experts in the construction industry are that reconstruction efforts will have barely made a dent a year from now. Higher fuel prices and compe ion for building materials, equipment and labor will drive up costs nationwide for years. Projects planned in the affected areas will be delayed for six months to a year or more.

    The markets for cement and steel were already tight. Nine percent of the nation's cement imports in 2004 came through New Orleans and downstream ports, said Ken Simonson, chief economist for Associated General Contractors of America.

    Roofers use many petroleum-based products, and Beldon's vendors have been faxing him notices. "We've already seen in one week two price increases on every product we carry," he said.

    Lumber futures rose 12 percent after the hurricane due to destruction of Gulf Coast area inventories and the temporary shutdown of area sawmills, Reed Construction Data reported. Wood-based products' prices should stabilize because there are ample supplies nearby.

    Jim Haughey at Reed Construction Data is forecasting replacement construction will become significant next year and continue for several years. This will produce rising cost pressures.

    "The long-term effect for everyone is that new construction will be more expensive, projects could face delays and new development could be slowed," Haughey said.

    Delay is preferable to destruction, and for that Drake Leddy is grateful. A San Antonio developer, Leddy builds luxury hotels and condominiums across the country. Construction was to have begun last week on the first of three luxury condo towers in Biloxi, Miss. The 20-story beachfront project now faces a delay of up to a year.

    "It's between two of the casinos that were destroyed," Leddy said. "I wish I didn't have all that money tied up, not doing anything with it for that length of time.

    "But I consider myself lucky," he said. "The land is still there. It's still on the beach. It's just a question of when the infrastructure is in place so we can move forward."

    Beldon runs a third-generation, family-owned business that is one of the largest in the Gulf Coast states. He says it'll be weeks before the company moves forward.

    "We've received calls from the military, from big-box retailers, from mom-and-pop stores, everything you can imagine," he said. "The problem is you just can't get in there."

    This disaster presents problems Beldon didn't need to think about in the past, when there were hotels to lodge workers, restaurants where they could eat, roads to move heavy equipment and reasonably priced fuel to get it there.

    Another new factor is that most of the homes will have to be built from the ground up.

    "Generally, (residents) are not out of their homes," he said. "They may have lost a part of their roof, but they're still living there. A vast percentage of this will probably have to be demolished."

    Despite higher prices, there will be plenty of materials and funding. But all the insurance checks and government grants may not overcome one formidable bottleneck — a shortage of skilled labor.

    Before Katrina, Hurricane Andrew in 1992 was the costliest disaster in U.S. history. Yet building permits didn't rise substantially after the storm. In fact, permits for residential construction in the affected area actually made up a smaller percentage of Florida's permit total in 1993 than in '91.

    The construction sector, already working full speed to keep up with a six-year-long housing boom, simply doesn't have enough spare capacity. Beldon can relate to that. He will expand his work force, but in a limited way.

    "We're running ads in Houston and San Antonio, looking for roofers with 10 years' experience," Beldon said. He hopes to find displaced roofers needing work.

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/specials...e.730d5e1.html

  23. #3773
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    That in Lousiana, Missippi and Alabama is just a major ing catastrophe. Could the city, state and national government done a better job?

    yeah.

    How does it relate to Presidents hating blacks? Yeah, he just sat there and said em... let the black people starve, save the rich white people.... That's just bull .

    Then, I saw some poor people accusing the mayor of blowing up the ing levy to save the rich neighborhoods..

    ing incredible.

    The worst thing ever to happen in the US and all the media and people can do is blame the President, the Governor, the Mayor and FEMA.

    You want someone to lay the blame on.

    GOD.

    Keep on praying.

  24. #3774
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    Vasher, I think that even under "mandatory" evactuations they can't make you leave. They can just tell you that if you stay you will not be helped in the event of an emergency because of the order.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Or...1407&t=e&hl=en

    Google maps have imagery of new orleans too.
    Yes they can.... There are 2 cases where they can be forced to leave.

    1. The mayor or gov can issue the emergency order. This is a state law of La.
    2. The president can order it (basically taking over the whole tamale).

    2 is not likely because of political fallout. They don't want bad press.

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    I was talking about the mandatory evac in place before/during the storm.

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