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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    is not likely because of political fallout. They don't want bad press.
    2. is not likely because if the FEDS were going to ever take over this catastrophe they would have already done so. The FEDS had the opportunity on Friday, Aug 26 when Governor Blanco Declared a State of Emergency in Louisiana and again on Saturday, August 27th when W declared a State of Emergency in Louisiana and ordered Federal aid to the affected areas to complement state and local relief efforts. With one stroke of the Presidential pin the FEDS could have federalized the Louisiana National Guard and any State. Local and Federal resources they needed to survive this disaster, but that authority never came.

    After the storm the President offered to do what he should have done before the Hurricane struck, place the whole area under FED control, but for the Governor handing over this control came with one big caveat. The Locals and the Governor alone would have to take all the heat for the horrible pre-storm planning and the mess in the Superdome. So Blanco told the Prez to take a flying leap and then came the ‘I’m ready to slap George Bush’ comment. Just thought you’d like to know.

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    Who is this guy, again? travis2's Avatar
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    Y'know, Kori is going to lock this thread again if heads like NoBrainAttachedDan can't keep their vomit in the Political Forum like she asked...more than once...

    But no...some idiots just have to try to show who's boss...

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    This whole Katrina talk is political

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    Can handle TheTruth Ginofan's Avatar
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    Make em sweat it out I say.... they need a new start on life anyway...

    It's already been a week so unless they had something hidden good they have been out of stash for a while...
    Watch a person going through withdrawls and then tell them they can sweat it out for at least a couple of weeks...if they make it that long.

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    i would say one less mouth to feed.

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    Watch a person going through withdrawls and then tell them they can sweat it out for at least a couple of weeks...if they make it that long.
    Your what 19 right? You think I don't know about that? The heroin sweat out does not take 2 weeks. When it goes down it takes only a couple days.

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    Your what 19 right? You think I don't know about that? The heroin sweat out does not take 2 weeks. When it goes down it takes only a couple days.
    You're trying to lecture someone who works at a clinic about the addiction?

    Wow.

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    hahha I didn't know they worked at a clinic. I said I agree to giving out methadone just that maybe they should just let them sweat it out.. otherwise it takes forever or never to get off.

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    Your what 19 right? You think I don't know about that? The heroin sweat out does not take 2 weeks. When it goes down it takes only a couple days.
    Are you this big of a prick in real life? I've tried to cut you some slack after reading of your disability, but you're just off the frickin' chain.

    At least Clandestino is funny.

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    I don't need you to cut me any slack. I can handle leftists just fine. It is possible for people to sweat it out.. sometimes that's the only thing that solves the long term addiction. My original issue was that the poster made it sound all great they where giving out methadone. That just keeps them hooked.

    Is methadone more likely to kill you than heroin?
    By Drs. Marcel Buster & Giel van Brussel, MD
    Municipal Health Service, Amsterdam, Netherlands

    Based on literature and analysis of mortality figures Dr. Russell Newcombe concluded that methadone programmes as a form of harm-reduction possibly cause more victims than they prevent. We have doubts whether the conclusion about methadone is fully justified. Looking at the mentioned literature gives a one-sided view at the problem. Moreover, the conclusions drawn are beyond those justified by the results of the analyses. Several points of debate come to mind:

    Methadone is not an innocent substance; 'one's methadone maintenance dose is another's poison'. A regular user of opiates develops a certain tolerance. Therefore, it is possible that a tolerant person can function normally with dosages which can be fatal to a non-tolerant person. Also, methadone dosage in the case of first entry to the programme has to be evaluated carefully. It is wise to begin with a low dosage that has to be increased slowly in the course of weeks or even months. At entry to the programme it has to be carefully evaluated whether a patient has a clear and unambiguous heroin dependence. In methadone maintenance programmes, methadone is dispensed to tolerant persons, moreover, this tolerance remains high because of daily use of methadone. Therefore, it is not surprising that deaths at the King's College Hospital caused by methadone were not those of participants of a methadone maintenance programme but were those of 'recreational' users of illicit methadone.

    In cases where more than one drug is used, the drug responsible for death due to overdose is difficult to establish. Moreover, the same drug prescribed by physicians can also be bought on the street. In seventy percent of the deaths due to overdose studied in Glasgow and Edinburgh a combination of different drugs was found.

    Prescribed drugs such as temazepam were often encountered in deaths in Glasgow. However, among only 14 of the 34 persons who died in 1992 and where temazepam was found, this was prescribed by their physician. Because of the presence of other drugs it is not clear whether temazepam really caused the death of these people. Probably the combination of these different drugs was fatal to them. This was also the case with the methadone deaths in Edinburgh. However, in Edinburgh, the authors could not determine whether methadone was prescribed or not. Both Hammersley and Obafunwa report that heroin/morphine deaths seldom occur in Edinburgh. 'The fall of the deaths due to overdose in the Lothian and Borders Region of Scotland (LBRS) after 1984 reflects in part the strict policing that took place, in particular in the Edinburgh area'.

    'The increase of methadone deaths is probably due to the introduction of a street trend to use this agent as a subs ute to heroin'. The author suggests that methadone deaths are mainly caused by the use of illicit methadone.

    Therefore, these figures suggest that participants of methadone programmes are at lower risk of death due to overdose. However, this does not mean that methadone is an innocent substance. The high and increasing number of methadone deaths in Britain is alarming and certainly needs more attention. The first priority should be to establish whether the methadone causing death has been prescribed within a methadone programme or bought on the street. It also should be evaluated at what point during the course of the methadone programme death takes place. Further instruction doctors prescribing methadone could be necessary. The use of non-prescribed methadone without medical supervision can lead to high risks, especially when it is used as a subs ute for heroin in order to get a 'high' instead of to prevent withdrawal symptoms. Physicians have to be aware of this danger and they should make sure that the prescribed methadone (as well as other psycho-active drugs) does not end up in the 'grey market'

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    Thanks for the link Manny! Awesome pictures. I spent over 2 hours looking at all of them. Best I've seen.

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    http://www.wwltv.com/

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Associated Press has learned that Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown is being removed from his role managing Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.

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    Yea those sat pics rock.

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    http://www.wwltv.com/

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Associated Press has learned that Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown is being removed from his role managing Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.
    Good.. I didn't like his resume and actions. Guy was NOT the right guy for the job. Bush ed up installing him.

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    http://www.wwltv.com/

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Associated Press has learned that Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown is being removed from his role managing Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.

    FEMA Chief Relieved of Katrina Duties

    By LARA JAKES JORDAN


    Associated Press Writer


    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown is being removed from his role managing Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, The Associated Press has learned.

    Brown is being sent back to Washington from Baton Rouge, where he was the primary official overseeing the federal government's response to the disaster, according to two federal officials who declined to be identified before the announcement.

    Brown will be replaced by Coast Guard Vice Adm. Thad w. Allen, who was overseeing New Orleans relief and rescue efforts.

    Brown has been under fire because of the administration's slow response to the magnitude of the hurricane. On Thursday, questions were raised about whether he padded his resume to highlight his previous emergency management background.

    Less than an hour before Brown's removal came to light, White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Brown had not resigned and the president had not asked for his resignation.

    McClellan did not directly answer a question about whether the president had full confidence in Brown.

    "We appreciate all those who are working round the clock, and that's the way I would answer it," he said.

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    Thats one way to end a career.

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    He can always go back to Horse mgmt...

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    Thank-god they got that idiot out of there.

    I think he'll try to quietly leave/be pushed out of his post. But we all will know it;s basicly "your fired" .. it'll prob. be put out that "he's leaving for another oppurtunity".

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    Has anyone posted this photo blog yet?

    http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slidesho...Uy=nyvoby&Ux=1

    Fantastic pictures and accounts by a Katrina survivior who stayed in New Orleans. If you have time, read the captions too, though it takes a while to get through.

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    I honestly feel sorry for Brown. How much xanax has that guy got to be popping by now? I mean, come on, how many of you can say you've never scfewed up royally at your job? I have screwed up at work before and felt incredible pressure, stress, and guilt because of it, and my screw-ups didn't lead to a national tragedy, costs thousands of lives, and disgrace the entire country. Seriously, if I were Brownie I'd be on suicide watch right now. I do feel bad for the guy.

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    I honestly feel sorry for Brown. How much xanax has that guy got to be popping by now? I mean, come on, how many of you can say you've never scfewed up royally at your job? I have screwed up at work before and felt incredible pressure, stress, and guilt because of it, and my screw-ups didn't lead to a national tragedy, costs thousands of lives, and disgrace the entire country. Seriously, if I were Brownie I'd be on suicide watch right now. I do feel bad for the guy.
    I hope he doesn't eat a gun like the PR officer of the NOPD did. And I still wonder how much of this is his fault, how much is the administration's for putting Brownie in that kind of position (where he knew that he was woefully underqualified), and how much was flat-out unavoidable.

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    I honestly feel sorry for Brown. How much xanax has that guy got to be popping by now? I mean, come on, how many of you can say you've never scfewed up royally at your job? I have screwed up at work before and felt incredible pressure, stress, and guilt because of it, and my screw-ups didn't lead to a national tragedy, costs thousands of lives, and disgrace the entire country. Seriously, if I were Brownie I'd be on suicide watch right now. I do feel bad for the guy.
    I feel bad too but in my opinion he was in over his head and from what I've read his credentials didn't support his being appointed the Head of FEMA.

    Good job President Bush.

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    Who was in charge of FEMA when the four hurricanes hit Florida last year?

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    I believe he was but I think, and I could be wrong, they were better handled all the way around and with better experienced local and state governments.

    I think the major concern this time around is how screwed up FEMA handled this disaster but I don't want to politicize things.

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    Uh .. But FEMA was delayed by 24 hours while the gov wanted to "think about it".. Also the local govt held back trucks of Red Cross from getting to the convention ctr and the Superdome.

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