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  1. #3851
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    I still think it’s MJ over Bron Kobe Tim Kareem if we talking strictly NBA …
    But also consider that Bron not only won les with 3 different coaches but 3 different franchises
    Different wing men as his #2. Spo is the only coach of his that is sniffing the HOF he won with Lue (solid) and Vogel (above average) heck Spo was unproven when they won as well
    Bron of the top 4-5 players has the most unique resume and definitely deserves a seat at the table when talking GoATS even over Kobe or Timmy who I prefer over him … personally… I’m just not a blind homer. It’s MJ then kareem or Bron then it’s the Timmy Shaq Kobe but I think there is a clear leader.
    LOL Kareem who carried his teams to .500 records in his prime as a top 3 player all time.

  2. #3852
    Veteran Killakobe81's Avatar
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    LOL Kareem who carried his teams to .500 records in his prime as a top 3 player all time.
    Bum we can pick nits at every players resume especially when comparing to the best of the best.
    After MJ the debate starts …

  3. #3853
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Bum we can pick nits at every players resume especially when comparing to the best of the best.
    After MJ the debate starts …
    How are you gonna be a top 3 player all time when you can't be depended on to lead your team to 50 wins in a weak league?

  4. #3854
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    How are you gonna be a top 3 player all time when you can't be depended on to lead your team to 50 wins in a weak league?
    Not arguing for Kareem and I think your teams success should be a factor, along with impact, dominance sustained greatness and peak performance compared to the other greats.

    Some guys will fare better in some of these categories than others but dismissing Kareem completely seems silly.
    And also seems kind of convenient having 50 wins as some arbitrary threshold or criteria… gee, I wonder whose case choosing that helps?!

  5. #3855
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Not arguing for Kareem and I think your teams success should be a factor, along with impact, dominance sustained greatness and peak performance compared to the other greats.

    Some guys will fare better in some of these categories than others but dismissing Kareem completely seems silly.
    And also seems kind of convenient having 50 wins as some arbitrary threshold or criteria… gee, I wonder whose case choosing that helps?!
    And his team had no success when he didn't have a top 3 all time PG next to him.

  6. #3856
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    Lakers: 5 game winning streak

    Clippers: 6 game losing streak

    Sons: 6 game losing streak


    Ain't no LkrFan jinx in 2023.

  7. #3857
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    West are so bad this year that even lakers may sneak into the play off.

  8. #3858
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    West are so bad this year that even lakers may sneak into the play off. 
    Da Sp*rs won't tho

  9. #3859
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Da Sp*rs won't tho
    Better to be in the lottery in a great draft than get your teeth kicked in in the play-in game.

  10. #3860
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    Da Sp*rs won't tho
    Spurs are in "brick for vic" mode. I am not sure what the plan is for lakers. Are they trying to win?

  11. #3861
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    Better to be in the lottery in a great draft than get your teeth kicked in in the play-in game.
    Today's Spur fans
    Tomorrow's too

  12. #3862
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    Spurs are in "brick for vic" mode. I am not sure what the plan is for lakers. Are they trying to win?
    Lakers always reload. Are you a new NBA fan?

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    Today's Spur fans
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    getting your hopes up for Street Clothes and 34 Year-old Westbrook

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Lakers always reload. Are you a new NBA fan?
    Were you shining shoes on the other side of the river from 2013-18?

  15. #3865
    Every game is game 1 Seventyniner's Avatar
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    Better to be in the lottery in a great draft than get your teeth kicked in in the play-in game.
    Only if you get to keep your own pick.

  16. #3866
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    Lakers: 5 game winning streak

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    Ain't no LkrFan jinx in 2023.
    All that winning lately and still just one spot above spurs.

  17. #3867
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    Were you shining shoes on the other side of the river from 2013-18?
    Just a lil bit

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    getting your hopes up for Street Clothes and 34 Year-old Westbrook

  19. #3869
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Speaking of 34 year-old Westbrook


  20. #3870
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    Lakers always reload. Are you a new NBA fan?
    13th in the west and Hernandez is in here celebrating it like a championship

  21. #3871
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    Not arguing for Kareem and I think your teams success should be a factor, along with impact, dominance sustained greatness and peak performance compared to the other greats.

    Some guys will fare better in some of these categories than others but dismissing Kareem completely seems silly.
    And also seems kind of convenient having 50 wins as some arbitrary threshold or criteria… gee, I wonder whose case choosing that helps?!
    I agree

    It is puzzling to me why Kareem didn't dominate his early Career but I think it was a lack of motivation. He physically dominated the sport at multiple levels and let's be honest Basketball was an after thought at the time.

    I might be bias but I think Kareems portfolio puts him near the Top and IMO solid #2. I rank Bird & Duncan arguably higher than others but I don't believe their accomplishments quite compare. Especially when one considers off the court influence.

  22. #3872
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    I agree

    It is puzzling to me why Kareem didn't dominate his early Career but I think it was a lack of motivation. He physically dominated the sport at multiple levels and let's be honest Basketball was an after thought at the time.

    I might be bias but I think Kareems portfolio puts him near the Top and IMO solid #2. I rank Bird & Duncan arguably higher than others but I don't believe their accomplishments quite compare. Especially when one considers off the court influence.
    Off the court stuff shouldn’t factor in comparing players
    Social activism and pro athlete career are 2 distinct things, as much as I respect what Kareem has done off the court - except for being a father (on that note, Larry Bird too)
    Last edited by lefty; 01-18-2023 at 02:26 PM.

  23. #3873
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  24. #3874
    The Good Doctor Rummpd's Avatar
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    Who do you despise most on LAL big 3?

    Mine
    1.Davis - quit on Pelicans
    2. LBJ - whiner and en led
    3. Brick - stat king has never led

  25. #3875
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Who do you despise most on LAL big 3?

    Mine
    1.Davis - quit on Pelicans
    2. LBJ - whiner and en led
    3. Brick - stat king has never led
    Yes we get it, for the millionth time, LeBron is a nigger who doesn't like Trump.

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