Bruno bringing the heat once again....filled with good info today.
So no buyout?
I've learned that point of the CBA few days ago.
And it's not only for international players. Two years ago, Bulls wanted that Chris Duhon plays overseas before coming back with them but he wanted to play in nba. Bulls have made the one year non guaranteed offer to keep his nba rights and Duhon signed it.
I don't know if he has a buyout.
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All this makes a trade of current player or draft pick more likely. Seeing as how the Spurs are chock full of old scrubs, I would hope to see current rosterlings get shipped out rather than a prospective draft prospect.
So wait....did the Spurs offer Mahinmi a contract the year he was drafted? Would they have to make an offer to Rudy or Marco if they drafted them in the first round this year?
Yes and yes.
There goes my theory about drafting an international player, unless that player has an understanding that they would be left overseas until 2008. I wonder how likely that is with a player like Rudy or Marco. Rudy is still under contract though, right?
Here's a question....if a player gets selected in the first round (therefore having a guarantee rookie-scale contract), but has a buyout (of which the NBA team can only pay $500,000), how does the difference in money work itself out...does the international player give money from his own pocket to pay the buyout, or do both parties agree to ?
The reason I ask, is that a guy like Rudy Fernandez might have a buyout next year...
Actually, he played well in all the games of the tournament. In fact, I think he shot something like 22-27 combined, not counting FTs (and he made some clutch FTs down the stretch for Fla. until he fouled out.) He made a big contribution in both the last two games that I watched. And remember the caliber of player he was matched with (Oden)
Don't you agree he'd be starting and getting more props if he played anywhere but Fla where he's a 6th man because of the starter's high talent level. At that he was 6th man of the year in the conference. I'm not saying he's gonna go in the first two rounds, but I like him and I still think he's a sleeper for some team, but we probably don't need a PF right now.
Richards could go overlooked and go undrafted like Haslem did. (Haslem was in our camp at one point and we didn't have room for him.) A brawny guy with strength and some skill could be very useful, although we don't have a lot of roster space. I'd take him immediately over Jackie Butler and would be glad to see the Spurs use their late pick on him.
The Spurs don't have any roster space....I doubt the late two draft picks will be used on anyone of consquence, probably just some more international prospects that won't be on the team next year...and may never be.
They'll open up at least 4 roster spaces, IMO. Maybe 3. And as I just said, I'd take Richards right now over Jackie Butler, and I suspect the team would, too. Not that they'd buy out the contract, but I do see them using the late pick if Craig Bradshaw or someone like that is available.
How do you figure they don't have any roster spots?
Jacque and Melvin won't be under contract. JWhite isn't guaranteed. Robert Horry may retire. Matt Bonner is a free agent (though I think they'll re-sign him).
That's five roster spots.
As of right now, w/o trades or cuts, there are a MAX of four roster spots open next year...and that's assuming that neither Bonner or Vaughn are re-signed. Then you have to take into account the possibility of signing Scola, and the possiblity that Mahinmi will accept the Spurs offer this summer (a mandatory requirement of Spurs FO). If Bonner and Vaughn DO re-sign, that leaves the Spurs with no roster spots available and a necessity to reach a buyout agreement or trade with one or more of the players on the current roster....as Bruno eluded to earlier, that's easier said than done.
Your su ions/assumptions about Butler probably aren't right....remember, they were offered something for him at the trade deadline by the 76ers and didn't bite. He's had a rough start for sure, but I doubt the Spurs have given up on him.
The player should pay the buyout with his own money.
The nba team can help the player to pay his buyout by :
- Give $500,000 to the euro team.
- Salaries for first round picks should be between 80% and 120% of the rookie scale salaries. A team can sign a player to 120% to give him more money to pay his buyout. It's not a big help because almost first round picks almost always get 120%.
- The nba team can pick up the team options on the 3rd and 4th year when the player sign the contract to give him more guaranteed money.
It's it not enough to pay his buyout, the player is stuck in europe until his buyout decrease or the end of his contract.
Well the Spurs won't sign Mahinmi and Scola this summer if they have their current set of bigs all under contract. We have an overabundance of bigs already.
The only way both Mahinmi and Scola come is if something like three of the bigs are gone (Horry, Ely, Bonner).
Jacque isn't under contract, but after what the Spurs have seen from Beno this year, you think they'd be willing to go into next season with him as the backup and have no security behind him? There will be three PGs on this team next season...and as of right now, Beno is one of them.
White is the only one I left out of my assessment. It is difficult to tell whether he will be with the team next year, because someone that plays his position might be drafted by the Spurs...but given what he's shown, the Spurs FO might have a hard time cutting him when he comes so cheap.
Well according to Bruno, it is a league requirement under the current CBA for teams to offer their first round picks the standard contract each summer. If Mahinmi doesn't want to play 5 minutes a game in France and wants to earn a paycheck, he'll take the offer the Spurs HAVE to give. Granted, that puts the Spurs in a bind with Scola, BUT the Spurs FO was quoted as saying it's "absolutely" a possibility they would bring over Scola...so they'll at least explore it.
The Mahinmi contract is more of a formality than anything, isn't it? A team isn't forced to sign a player and that team doesn't automatically lose that player's rights. Mahinmi doesn't necessarily come this summer if the Spurs don't want him yet.
Haslem case isn't very common. He weigthed 300lbs during the draft, spend one year in France and during that year, he lost 70lbs.
Thanks for the info. Because apparently Rudy is under contract until 2009 and the potential buyout is a concern. That might be a big pill for Rudy to swallow if he has to take it out of hide....he might actually end up earning more money in Europe if he has to use a portion of his salary to pay the buyout.
Offering Mahinmi a contract from what I understand is just a formality thing. They don't have to offer it with any intention of him taking it (or wanting him to take it). And from what I hear from people playing in Euroleague, Scola doesn't think he'll be a Spur next year.
But they absolutely will not both be here if the Spurs current bigs are all still under contract. The Spurs aren't going to carry nine big men.
No, Haslem was a special case, but Richards is a special case, too -- he could have played as a starter for most Division I teams.
Talk to Bruno, he seems to know what he's saying...
Correct.
It just doesn't seem quite so draconian as that. What about Orlando with Fran Vasquez? Rules are generally aligned to help teams over players and I don't see why this would be any different. Rookies or players not even in the league do not hold teams hostage. The Mahinmi case is different, anyway: if they tell him to play abroad another year, he will.
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