Spurs' future draft picks

[Bruno]

Spurs' 07 draft picks :

28th : Spurs first round pick
33rd : Bucks second round pick (from the Markota trade)
58th : Spurs second round pick

Spurs' workouts :

PG :
Jared Jordan
Gabe Pruitt
Zabian Dowdell
Jamaal Tatum
Aaron Bruce (out)
Ramon Sessions
Petteri Koponen
Mustafa Shakur

SG/SF :
Aaron Afflalo
Demetris Nichols
Ron Lewis
Daequan Cook
Alando Tucker
Morris Almond
Jared Dudley
Sun Yue
DJ Strawberry
David Teague

PF/C :
Carl Landry
Kyle Visser
Nikita Shabalkin (out)
Lamont Hamilton
Aaron Gray
Nick Fazekas
Glen Davis
Jermareo Davidson
Stephane Lasme
Kyrylo Fesenko

Maybe :
Trey Johnson
Wilson Chandler

2007 Calendar :

April 2 : End of the NCAA tournament
April 4 - April 7 : Portsmouth invitational tournament
April 7 : 2007 Nike Hoop Summit - Memphis
April 18 : End of the nba regular season
April 29 : NBA Draft's early entry eligibility deadline
May 22 : Draft Lottery - New York
May 28 - June 3 : NBA pre-draft camp - Orlando
June 5 : Start of the workouts
June 9 - June 12 : Rbk eurocamp - Treviso
June 18 : Draft early entrant withdrawl deadline
June 25 : Deadline for Oberto to pick his player option (it could have an influence on what Spurs will do with their picks)
June 28 : NBA Draft - New York

Links :

Draftexpress
Nbadraft
Espn draft page
Wiki on the lottery
Future draft picks
NCAA players stats
Euroleague players stats
CBA faq

[Bruno]

I've posted this because I've discovered that Spurs have Bulls second round pick (top 51 protected).
This pick come from the Erick Barkley trade (he was a filler in the Daniels/Kerr).

[Mr. Body]

What's that Chicago pick from?

This makes little sense to me. From the Chicago portion. If it occurs within the Top 51, then:

2007 second round draft pick to San Antonio
Chicago’s own 2007 2nd round pick to San Antonio (top 51 protected). If Chicago's own 2007 2nd round pick is in the top 51 picks, then Chicago's obligations to convey a second round pick to San Antonio are extinguished. [Chicago – San Antonio, 10/25/2002]


2007 second round draft pick to Portland
Chicago's own 2007 2nd round pick to Portland (only if in the top 51 picks). If Chicago's own 2007 2nd round pick is not in the top 51 picks, then Chicago shall instead convey its own 2008 2nd round pick to Portland. [Chicago – Portland, 6/28/2006]

There's a discrepancy there - it's either 2007 or 2008. Does Chicago stand to lose two 2nd round picks? Am I daft here?

[Mr. Body]

Anyway, good find Bruno. Chicago would have to be one of the top 9 records for the Spurs to get it.

[Bruno]

What's that Chicago pick from?

http://www.eskimo.com/~pbender/nba-d...cores10-25.txt
TRADE: San Antonio traded Erick Barkley and cash to Chicago for future
considerations. Chicago then released Barkley.

This makes little sense to me. From the Chicago portion. If it occurs within the Top 51, then:

2007 second round draft pick to San Antonio
Chicago’s own 2007 2nd round pick to San Antonio (top 51 protected). If Chicago's own 2007 2nd round pick is in the top 51 picks, then Chicago's obligations to convey a second round pick to San Antonio are extinguished. [Chicago – San Antonio, 10/25/2002]


2007 second round draft pick to Portland
Chicago's own 2007 2nd round pick to Portland (only if in the top 51 picks). If Chicago's own 2007 2nd round pick is not in the top 51 picks, then Chicago shall instead convey its own 2008 2nd round pick to Portland. [Chicago – Portland, 6/28/2006]

There's a discrepancy there - it's either 2007 or 2008. Does Chicago stand to lose two 2nd round picks? Am I daft here?

If Bulls are a top9 team, Spurs will get Bulls' 2007 second round pick and Blazers will get Bulls' 2008 second round pick;
If Bulls aren't a top9 team, Spurs will get nothing and Blazers will get Bull's 2007 second round pick.

[Mr. Body]

This is fantastic news. I don't see how Chicago fails to get a Top 9 record. That means the Spurs get one 1st rounder and three 2nd rounders (theirs, Milwaukee's, Chicago's). Two will fall very late in the round, however.

[Bruno]

Anyway, good find Bruno.

Thanks.

This is fantastic news. I don't see how Chicago fails to get a Top 9 record. That means the Spurs get one 1st rounder and three 2nd rounders (theirs, Milwaukee's, Chicago's). Two will fall very late in the round, however.

I think too that Bulls will be a top9 team even if ti's not a lock.

BTW, over/under odds for the regular season :
Spurs 56.5
Mavs 56.5
Suns 55
Heat 51.5
Piston 50.5
Bulls 48.5
Cavs 48.5
Nets 47.5
Clippers 47

[Mr. Body]

If Bulls are a top9 team, Spurs will get Bulls' 2007 second round pick and Blazers will get Bulls' 2008 second round pick

The Bulls stand to lose two draft picks for a transaction they didn't want? Didn't they pick up Barkley just to waive him as a favor?

[Bruno]

The Bulls stand to lose two draft picks for a transaction they didn't want? Didn't they pick up Barkley just to waive him as a favor?

The second round pick given to Portland come from the Tyrus Thomas + Krhyapa for Aldridge trade.

[Mr. Body]

They just welded them together. Okay.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Oh Boy Corso, Nothin Like Extra Second Round Draft Picks To Use As Fodder For Trainin Camp, Or Betta Yet Ship Over To Europe So That They're Never Used Again--corrrsooo

[Zunni]

The Bulls stand to lose two draft picks for a transaction they didn't want? Didn't they pick up Barkley just to waive him as a favor?

There were also cash considerations in that trade, IIRC, like SA sending cash for them to cut his ass.

[Big P]

Yes we do have a first round pick this year, & it looks like we will have our own original second rounder, plus the Bucks or Houstons second rounder, whichever is better...IMO we wont have Chicagos second rounder, it will be better than the 51'st pick I think..so the way I see it we have 1 first round pick, 2 second round picks for sure & maybe 3 second rounders, depending on what happens with the Bulls second rounder.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Wait, do we have a first round draft pick this year??

Yeh we still have our 1st round pick protected in 2007 and 2nd round pick = 2 picks

now add bulls pick + bucks pick = 2 picks

aka 4 picks rebuild or move trade up in the draft using the 3 2nd round picks to move into 1st round to get some .

what im hopin is pilin on the 2nd round picks with expiring contracts trades with other teams. Lets not waste the picks like how the knicks did.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Yes we do have a first round pick this year, & it looks like we will have our own original second rounder, plus the Bucks or Houstons second rounder, whichever is better...IMO we wont have Chicagos second rounder, it will be better than the 51'st pick I think..so the way I see it we have 1 first round pick, 2 second round picks for sure & maybe 3 second rounders, depending on what happens with the Bulls second rounder.

houston doesnt own us any picks, unless they own the bucks which could be transfered to us , we get to have the pick that is the highest out of the 2 in the 2nd round

[THE SIXTH MAN]

so we have a total of 5 picks for 07?

[TDMVPDPOY]

so we have a total of 5 picks for 07?

we have 4

1st roun 1 pick spurs
2nd round = 51st pick if bulls have top9 record goes to us
bucks highest 2nd round pick
then our own pick

but it looks like a weak draft anyway with the scrubs in the 2nd round, unless we find some again......

[Mr. Body]

It's classified as one of the deepest and most talented drafts ever. But yeah, our 2nd rounders would be in the 40s and later.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

It's classified as one of the deepest and most talented drafts ever.

Thats what I heard as well.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Thats what I heard as well.

only deep in the first round with alot of the bigz will be taken anyway....what i want the front office to focus on is draftin a replacement for bowen, then a center and backup PG.....

[venitian navigator]

http://www.realgm.com/src_future_dra...hp#san_antonio

Credits

2007 second round draft pick from Chicago
Chicago’s own 2007 2nd round pick to San Antonio (top 51 protected). If Chicago's own 2007 2nd round pick is in the top 51 picks, then Chicago's obligations to convey a second round pick to San Antonio are extinguished. [Chicago – San Antonio, 10/25/2002]

2007 second round draft pick from Milwaukee
The better of Milwaukee's own 2007 2nd round pick and Houston's own 2007 2nd round pick to San Antonio [Milwaukee - San Antonio, 6/28/2006]

2009 second round draft pick from New Orleans
New Orleans’ own 2009 2nd round pick to San Antonio via Toronto [New Orleans – Toronto, 1/26/2006 and then San Antonio – Toronto, 6/21/2006]

Debits
No picks owed

Looking at this, I don't understand why we have just three or four...

I read :
1 first roud (ours) +
1 second round (ours) +
1 second round (from Milwaukee that will be the better between the one of the rockets and the one of Milwaukee : Markota trade) +
1 second round (from New Orleans via Toronto : rasho trade) +
1 second round (that's the only conditional one, from Chicago : Barckley trade)

So we have four for sure (1 first and three second choice)
and eventually five (with the Chicago one).

Not bad in the supposedly "deepest draft in years" (also if the one high second choice risks to be the N.O. one..).

Am I wrong ?

[Bruno]

Looking at this, I don't understand why we have just three or four...

The Hornets' pick is a 2009 second round pick, not a 2007 one.

[mountainballer]

It's classified as one of the deepest and most talented drafts ever. But yeah, our 2nd rounders would be in the 40s and later.

I'm not so sure about this.
the most comes from the hype about Odom.
i think beside Odom, there is a lot of good potential, but not especially that much outstanding star potential (like in the 03 draft for example).
like ginobili_is_god wrote, this is mainly because of all the high schoolers, who couldn't enter the draft 2006 because of the new rules.
the irony is, that the draft 2007 looks thin at exactly the one position, the Spurs would need instant help the most, namely at SF.
so the number of picks won't help that much, if there ain't any usefull SFs left at the board.
the player who would likely be exactly what the Spurs would need as a successor of Bruce is Corey Brewer, but he will likely be picked 10-20.
Spurs should try hard to trade up by using the second rounders and maybe even the draft rights of Scola and/or Javtokas. they of course won't get a lottery pick (no team will blow the chance to win the Odom sweepstake by trading a potential lottery pick), but mybe they can get a pick in the 15-20 area.
there they would have a chance to get either Brewer or Rush, who are both ready to contribute from the first year.

[AFBlue]

It's Oden, not Odom.

And isn't it a little too early to start talking about next year's draft seriously? Thanks for the information on what picks the Spurs will have, but NO ONE knows how this draft will shape up. Oden, Noah, Brewer, McRoberts, Durant, Big Baby, and all of the other talents being discussed are underclassmen, so they would have to leave the NCAA. I'm not saying they won't, but we shouldn't make it a foregone conclusion that they will.

Again, thanks for the info and I'm sure the Spurs will do something completely unexpected with their 3 or 4 picks...they always do.

[mountainballer]

It's Oden, not Odom.

hoppla. shame on me.