Official Hurricane Katrina Thread

[missmyzte]

20,000-25,000 people are in the SuperDome right now

[Kori Ellis]

There are, say, 30,000 people who are too stupid to leave their homes.

Don't call them stupid. 100K there don't have transportation out. Most of them aren't stupid; they are unfortunate.

[SPARKY]

Every once in a while Man is reminded of how truly weak and ignorant he is.

[Jelly]

America donated so much to the tsunami relief, I was wondering how much the world would share with us.

Unfortunately, much of the rest of the world thinks we didn't give enough, believe it or not. Check out the international press and go on some foreign message boards. you will see American tsunami relief described in such terms as "disgraceful". They like to calculate everything on a per capita basis and and as a % of our GNP. By doing this, the U.S. looks stingy compared to other nations. Of course, it's much more complicated than that and I have had my fill with arguing with Europeans on how Americans are not "stingy".

Wht they forget is that the greatest aid given to Indonesia by any nation was the manpower, materials and relief provided by our military. They were able to provide assistance that is beyond monetary comparison.

[Samr]

Bleh. I forgot to preface it again.

I meant the people who were stupid in that they wanted to ride out the storm. Like I said earlier, I feel awful for those who cannot leave but want to. The ones I don't feel sorry for- the idiots- are the ones who think they will be find after boarding up the windows in their sing story house.

If you are anywhere on the gulf coast and not in Texas, now is NOT the time for morbid curiosity. Katrina doesn't care if you are there or not- she is destroying your house either way.

Those, are the idiots.

[Jelly]

Well I think only 50% of them are evacuated from the city so far. That spells for more than 100 dead. *Praying for some miracle that there will be none*

Me too.

[MannyIsGod]

Joe, they had shots from inside the dome earlier on CNN and MSNBC.

[Samr]

The levees are 15 feet.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I'm no meteorologist or city planner, but there are people obviously telling these things to the media that a few of you are saying are blowing this out of proportion. They're not just pulling this stuff out of their ass.

And you know that if they held info back and short-changed it, they'd be ripped to shreds.

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005


EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE
MISSISSIPPI RIVER DELTA

DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A
FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY
VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE
KILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WATCH IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS.

LAZ038-040-050-056>070-MSZ080>082-290300-
ASSUMPTION-HAN -HARRISON-JACKSON-LIVINGSTON-LOWER JEFFERSON-
LOWER LAFOURCHE-LOWER PLAQUEMINES-LOWER ST. BERNARD-LOWER TERREBONNE-
ORLEANS-ST. CHARLES-ST. JAMES-ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST-ST. TAMMANY-
TANGIPAHOA-UPPER JEFFERSON-UPPER LAFOURCHE-UPPER PLAQUEMINES-
UPPER ST. BERNARD-UPPER TERREBONNE-
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

“We are facing a storm that most of us have long feared,” Nagin said.

The storm had the potential for storm surge flooding of up to 28 feet, topped with even higher waves, as much as 15 inches of rain, and tornadoes, the National Hurricane Center said.

[Samr]

Also, it is slowing. 11 mph. More time to dump more rain.

Manny, any word on this? Is this a result of the eye wall whatever, or is it slowing because of the shallower water?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Joe, they had shots from inside the dome earlier on CNN and MSNBC.

Okay. Thanks.

I've just had the local feeds playing in the background since I got home to San Marcos.

[missmyzte]

The sister of a good friend of mine (she's also my mentor) goes to school in New Orleans, just got word that she's out of N.O. and is driving towards my friend who lives in Dallas.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Some good news...Nagin says 75-80% of people were evacuated and 30K got to the Superdome.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/2...log/index.html

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

A Miami reporter on WWL just said that fiberoptic communication was just lost at the Superdome.

[Samr]

Everyone's seen those videos of tornados tearing through towns, leaving little remaining. An F3 has winds 158-206 mph, and can do some serious damage.

Now imagine an F3 that is 300 miles wide. And brings in a 25 foot storm surge.

For some prospective.

[Jelly]

Everyone's seen those videos of tornados tearing through towns, leaving little remaining. An F3 has winds 158-206 mph, and can do some serious damage.

Now imagine an F3 that is 300 miles wide. And brings in a 25 foot storm surge.

For some prospective.

That's worst case scenario. I'm not a worse case scenario thinker. I just have a feeling this will weaken by tomorrow, maybe down to a Cat 4. That's based on nothing but my psychic intuition. Let's hope. It still will be a nightmare for New Orleans.

[Horry For 3!]

They're talking about the hurricane and other hurricanes that were category 5s on CNN.

[Ginofan]

That's worst case scenario. I'm not a worse case scenario thinker. I just have a feeling this will weaken by tomorrow, maybe down to a Cat 4. That's based on nothing but my psychic intuition. Let's hope.

If it weakens to a CAT 4 before it hits...I don't think it would make much of a difference. The amount of destruction NO and surrounding neighbors receive will still be huge.

[SPARKY]

If it is slowing down that is not good news. That does not mean that the hurricane is weakening. Rather, as I understand it, it means that the storm will have more time over the Gulf to strengthen.

[Jelly]

Look at that traffic. Why don't they open up the 'inbound' highway (is it 10 that they keep showing) for outbound cars?

they could keep just one inbound lane for emergency vehicles.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Look at that traffic. Why don't they open up the 'inbound' highway (is it 10 that they keep showing) for outbound cars?

they could keep just one inbound lane for emergency vehicles.

They had that all day long, apparently.

[Samr]

That's worst case scenario.

It is? The comparrison was based purely off wind speeds. The storm surge is fact (not exact numbers, but give or take a few feet).

The X-Factor is the levee system. If that holds, N.O. gets off (relatively) easy. But if they break, it is anyone's guess as to the kind of destruction thing thing will bring.

[Trainwreck2100]

If it is slowing down that is not good news. That does not mean that the hurricane is weakening. Rather, as I understand it, it means that the storm will have more time over the Gulf to strengthen.

The hope is this is an eye reformation, if it is it may slow down and hopefully not reform before landfall. The winds are slowing, not it's speed. If you can make sense of that.

[j-6]

FYI, there's 15K in the Superdome as of 8:30 with approximately another 3-4K outside still. The National Guard brought 300,000 MRE's with them.

[Kori Ellis]

The winds are slowing, not it's speed.

But isn't that cyclical? I understood that the winds were slowing and then strengthening again over the last 24 hours, then slowing again, etc.