2015 Spurs NBA Draft Pick Thread

[tholdren]

Yes, you're crying, and it's completely absurd. It's an opinion that Green and Splitter are good defenders; it's a FACT that they put up elite defensive numbers. It's also a fact that Green hasn't performed poorly since leaving the Spurs. This issue is that you sound like a fool for not knowing the difference between fact and opinion and exposing that foolishness in this thread. You gave opinions, with which no one agrees and which you have NOT even tried to support. Your whole argument is that anything I say is as good as what you say because they're both opinions. But that's silly, because I actually supported my opinions with facts and analysis. You can totally do that instead of continuing to act petulant if you want. I'll totally be willing to engage you.

Just because you support your OPINION with facts doesn't change that it is still an OPINION.

[RD2191]

Just because you support your OPINION with facts doesn't change that it is still an OPINION.

The .

[tholdren]

The .

I think Kobe Bryant is the best NBA player, he had the highest salary this year.

now you try to find the opinion and the fact. tell me if the opinion changed because I provided factual evidence.

[Chinook]

Just because you support your OPINION with facts doesn't change that it is still an OPINION.

Lol. Yes, but if you support your opinion with facts, then it's not accurate to say that all you stated was your opinion. You can't say, "My opinion is as good as yours," when one is supported and the other isn't. That's just not what we as a society agreed on.

[Chinook]

I think Kobe Bryant is the best NBA player, he had the highest salary this year.

now you try to find the opinion and the fact. tell me if the opinion changed because I provided factual evidence.

[RD2191]

I think Kobe Bryant is the best NBA player, he had the highest salary this year.

now you try to find the opinion and the fact. tell me if the opinion changed because I provided factual evidence.

You are a got. Fact or opinion?

[tholdren]

Lol. Yes, but if you support your opinion with facts, then it's not accurate to say that all you stated was your opinion. You can't say, "My opinion is as good as yours," when one is supported and the other isn't. That's just not what we as a society agreed on.

again it is your opinion as to what society has agreed upon, I certainly didn't agree to anything. I can absolutely say that my opinion is as good as yours with ZERO evidence. Many people come with the thought that "this is what I believe, and nothing you can say is going to change that" These people may be stupid as all get out, but that doesn't change the concept that their opinion "isn't as good" as one backed with facts.

Religion is one of the easiest correlations. Non-religious here, but I cannot tell someone who is that their opinion isn't as good as mine because they don't have facts to back up their faith. That would be . Coincidentally, you are saying that I should not accept their opinions as equal. In terms of being a human being, I would whole-heartedly disagree with your original take. My job isn't trying to prove others right or wrong. My job, in society, is listen to everyone's opinion and try to help them grow, or think more deeply regarding what they believe, and why.

Next time you take a societal poll, please inform me.

[Chinook]

again it is your opinion as to what society has agreed upon, I certainly didn't agree to anything. I can absolutely say that my opinion is as good as yours with ZERO evidence. Many people come with the thought that "this is what I believe, and nothing you can say is going to change that" These people may be stupid as all get out, but that doesn't change the concept that their opinion "isn't as good" as one backed with facts.

Religion is one of the easiest correlations. Non-religious here, but I cannot tell someone who is that their opinion isn't as good as mine because they don't have facts to back up their faith. That would be . Coincidentally, you are saying that I should not accept their opinions as equal. In terms of being a human being, I would whole-heartedly disagree with your original take. My job isn't trying to prove others right or wrong. My job, in society, is listen to everyone's opinion and try to help them grow, or think more deeply regarding what they believe, and why.

Next time you take a societal poll, please inform me.

Lol: "Let me justify to you why I don't have to justify my opinion."

You don't see how absurd it is what you just did?

[tholdren]

Lol: "Let me justify to you why I don't have to justify my opinion."

You don't see how absurd it is what you just did?

lol - you still don't get the concept. When you become a little older/wiser you will get it. Until then, you're right, you proved me wrong.

[Chinook]

lol - you still don't get the concept. When you become a little older/wiser you will get it. Until then, you're right, you proved me wrong.

It's hard to take a concept seriously when the person explaining it couldn't even go one post without negating it.

[RD2191]

It's hard to take a concept seriously when the person explaining it couldn't even go one post without negating it.

[Nathan89]

Splitter is the reason Memphis isn't ting all over us anymore. He does work on most big men in the league. He is absolutely needed with all the talented big men out west. Gasol/zbo, dirk, lma, davis, Griffin, and Dwight, cousins are all very talented big men. Duncan is a good defender but he's old and slow. Splitter is criminally underrated around here.

If Splitter's replacement is not a huge negative on defense and is a upgrade on offense then we should be able to manage against those bigs/teams. Dirk shouldn't be on that list anymore.

[TheGoldStandard]

Gasol and zbo are aging and bonner had success against guys like Dwight and zbo lol. 2011 was a ty year for our bigs and long passed. Griffin and soon Davis will be at a point where it doesn't matter who you put on them they'll get there's. Splitter is useful but if he goes the Spurs are still contenders because Kawhi, green, to and perhaps Aldridge

[palangi]

You are a got. Fact or opinion?

Brilliant!

[cd021]

Splitter is a very good all around defender, but the notion that he's propping up Duncan, is ridiculous. Part of the reason why he appears so indispensable, is because of the lack of another big that's anything better than adequate defensively. Give this team Aldridge, who fits the mold (not the all around defender Splitter is, but a decent one) and a decent backup center and I'm confident they'd remain among the elite.

They were for the first few months without Splitter. Sure, the sample size wasn't huge, but it wasn't small either. Griffin destroyed them, but he's also the 2nd best PF in the game.

Weird stat, Aldridge is actually one of the best "rim protectors" allowing 39% on 9 attempts at the rim (compared to Duncan who allows 45% on 10 attempts) ( in way fewer minutes per game).

I agree Splitter is a great defender in his own right. Very good post defender, agile enough in the pick and roll and good at the rim. Does small stuff too like walling off the paint and forcing guards to shoot over his length.

So long as both Green and Leonard are on the wings, i'd agree that a Splitter/Aldridge and ,say, Baynes would be a top 10 probably top 5 defense.

[lmbebo]

Im ok with the Splitter trade as mentioned above, but just remember that rookies don't always tend to come right out and make an impact. Partly because of inexperience, but also because Pop doesn't tend to play them

[TheGoldStandard]

Im ok with the Splitter trade as mentioned above, but just remember that rookies don't always tend to come right out and make an impact. Partly because of inexperience, but also because Pop doesn't tend to play them

Unfortunate for Pop he would be forced to unless he plans to go small ball for a good part of the season.

[Biggems]

I would be ok with trading Splitter. I don't hate him, but I find him to be too soft offensively, and he is always dealing with nagging ailments.

There are 5 players I really like in this draft and all seem to be able to be had in the 2nd round, based on almost all of the mocks I have seen. Unfortunately, we only have one 2nd round pick right now, and none of the five players is a PG. We do have a 1st rounder and we could possibly shop Splitter.

in no particular order

C Nikola Milutinovic
C Guillermo Hernangomez
PF Jonathan Holmes
SF Anthony Brown
SG Pat Connaughton

[palangi]

I would be ok with trading Splitter. I don't hate him, but I find him to be too soft offensively, and he is always dealing with nagging ailments.

There are 5 players I really like in this draft and all seem to be able to be had in the 2nd round, based on almost all of the mocks I have seen. Unfortunately, we only have one 2nd round pick right now, and none of the five players is a PG. We do have a 1st rounder and we could possibly shop Splitter.

in no particular order

C Nikola Milutinovic
C Guillermo Hernangomez
PF Jonathan Holmes
SF Anthony Brown
SG Pat Connaughton

I like the Nikola kid a lot too.

[look_at_g_shred]

Really diggin Harrell and Anderson

[T Park]

I disagree, I think it's worth the risk. Splitter isn't unreplaceable in his role on our team. There are a bunch of guys we would play a smaller role overall but could replace what Splitter does defensively in the playoffs. Someone like Chandler, Robin Lopez, Koufos or Asik could come in and fill that role adequately if we have to face a team like the Grizzlies.

Splitter is very much a situational player come playoff time. Against the projected best teams next year, the Cavaliers, Thunder and Warriors, Splitter will play a limited role and I think we can beat the Clippers, Blazers, Grizzlies or Houston with any of the guys I listed.

Yeah Splitter is only one of the best pick and roll defenders in the league. Don't see how he'd get any mins vs Golden State or OKc or Cleveland at all.......

[T Park]

Im ok with the Splitter trade as mentioned above, but just remember that rookies don't always tend to come right out and make an impact. Partly because of inexperience, but also because Pop doesn't tend to play them

Ah the old "Pop doesn't play rookies" falsehood. It's like 2004 all over again

[raybies]

These are some guys i really like for the team.

PG: Not really a need
SG: Vaughn, Wright, Hunter, JP Tokoto,
SF: Not really a need
PF: Harrell, Holmes, Mcullough, Nance
C: Hernangomez, Milutinov, Dakari Johnson

[spurs1990]

I don't have any background in college / euro ball so I'll rely on yalls knowledge.

Any chance of picking up a Leonard or Hill type prospect.

Seems like the FO strikes gold every 3 years or so.

[raybies]

I don't have any background in college / euro ball so I'll rely on yalls knowledge.

Any chance of picking up a Leonard or Hill type prospect.

Seems like the FO strikes gold every 3 years or so.

As for Leonard, in our range, that would be Hollis-Jefferson or Justin Anderson. Both are projected to be gone by the time the Spurs pick though. Overall it would be Stanley Johnson or Justise Winslow.

And Hill, maybe Olivier Hanlan, but i'd like to see the Spurs get Delon Wright if he's available and they're looking for a combo.