The Atlanta situation may have leapfrogged the Spurs past Thunder in value of top draft assets. They have a gaggle of swaps and firsts starting in 2025. Reading the breakdown, it seems there's no chance they get a top pick in 2025 given protects - and these teams are Houston, Clippers, Miami, and Philly, so I'm not sure any of them convey anyway, other than the swap. So, no chance for Flagg or Ace unless OKC themselves tank.
OKC 2026. The Miami pick goes unprotected if it doesn't convey in 2025 (1-14 prot.), the Philly pick is still 1-4 protected, they get the best two of theirs, Houston (1-4 prot.) and Clippers (Philly gets the remainder).
The rest of their FRPs after that are from two firsts from Denver (27, 29) protected 1-4 and a LAC swap in 2027. They of course own a boatload of SRPs.
Kind of amazing. The Spurs have by far the best two assets in the league right now between the teams in the ATL picks, the ATL swap is also super inviting given it's the Boozer draft. Utah has unprotected firsts in 2025 but they're from Minnesota and Cleveland.
tl;dr The Thunder have no chance at the possible generational talents in the next two drafts. Obviously they draft very well overall, but their days of high lotto has pretty much disappeared.
How’s he going to do that when he’s only Trae’s lob threat? I don’t think you grasp the extent of how awful Trae is without the ball in his hands, like they’d be playing 4 on 5 offense. It’s the reason that his pairing with DJ didn’t work, and why he will limit Wemby to just a lob threat.
Yeah ever since winning the lottery for Victor I like those ATL picks as trade assets more than holding onto them. Not a bad Plan B to have a real shot at Flagg and Boozer, but now with a generational player on the roster probably makes more sense to pawn that uncertainty onto someone else who might blow it up. If the Spurs luck into the #1 pick again this year I'm definitely calling Brooklyn and asking for Bridges since Sarr would probably have more value for them.
You keep saying this, but there's no way in Brooklyn trades Bridges for Sarr. They don't even need Sarr.
I'm not sure Bridges is worth that much.
He would have 2 more years on his deal, which ends in 2026 when he turns 30.
Then he'd ask for big money. And he's not a max player for me.
As for upcoming lotteries, we got beyond lucky with Wemby and planning your future based on another 14% lottery ticket would be dumb.
I'm not familiar with the upcoming drafts, but unless 2025 or 2026 draft is really stacked, then I'd have no problem trading those Hawks picks for the right return.
It's weird that you think Wemby is going to be reduced to a lob threat only with Trae.
Trae would be fine next to Wemby. He would also benefit from a ton of open looks from Wemby's gravity and vice versa. You make it sound like Young only knows how to throw lob passes
STs weird ability to on every decent player on another team while overvaluing our scrubs is hilarious
It took years for the Spurs to get top ten lottery picks and now they have them. They aren't going to trade a bunch of them for one player.
The Spurs should get enough chances with high lottery picks in the next two or threes years to get better players than what they currently have. Sochan was the 9th pick and outside of Wemby he's the only top ten pick on the team.
With their own pick this year and the Toronto pick and possibly another two top ten picks next year the Spurs will have a few chances at bringing in the best prospects. The spurs aren't turning this team around with Trae Young or Murray and future low draft picks. Atlanta isn't going to trade those guys without the Spurs sending out top ten picks this year and possibly next year despite all the low ball trade packages Spurstalk thinks up that don't include these picks. It's going to come down to how well the Spurs draft and the ability to surround Wemby with strong enough talent to be a contender again. The Spurs are going to have top draft picks which should make things easier for them.
Wemby isn't going to leave the team if he sees improvement and the Spurs will improve as top draft talent gets added to the team. The spurs got lucky and got their franchise player so the hard part is already finished. It's going to be a process but positive results will be seen. Fans need to be patient with the process.
They're a team on a 34 win pace without much young talent. They desperately need someone like him.
Given ATL's current trajectory, I'd probably shuffle your Spurs picks power rankings some:
2025 Spurs (Flagg draft)
2025 Hawks (Flagg draft)
2026 Spurs w/ATL Swap (Boozer/Dybantsa draft)
2024 Spurs
2025 CHI (chance at 25, 26 drafts)
2027 Hawks (lotto pick as SAS improves)
2024 Raptors
2030 Spurs w/ DAL Swap (Luka will be gone)
2028 Spurs w/ BOS Swap (Tatum will be a Laker)
2027 Spurs
2024 Spurs -- SRP (quasi FRP)
2025 Spurs -- SRP (quasi FRP)
2029 Spurs
2024 CHA
2025 CHI -- SRP (quasi FRP?)
You don't trade away your best trade assets for someone who will let you compete in 3 years. You do that when you're ready to go for it now.
I honestly don't even think we're nearly as bad as our record indicates. Seemed like Devin getting hurt in game 4 or 5 whatever started some type of weird downward spiral that we weren't able to get out of until recently.
the only player exstatic likes is Jalen Smith. He thinks he's worth 30 millionIt's weird that you think Wemby is going to be reduced to a lob threat only with Trae.
Trae would be fine next to Wemby. He would also benefit from a ton of open looks from Wemby's gravity and vice versa. You make it sound like Young only knows how to throw lob passes
STs weird ability to on every decent player on another team while overvaluing our scrubs is hilarious
It was Branham going to the starting lineup. They actually look like an NBA team again ever since that scrub went to the bench and Tre Jones took over PG duty with the first team in the most obvious adjustment imaginable that took Pop half the ing season to implement.
top 5 team in the west
and only because branham got hurt
I do think getting the number one pick might get you Bridges if Brooklyn wants to rebuild. The number one pick always carries a lot of value.
What makes someone be NOT 2-way eligible?
It’s a matter of having a European team buyout. NBA teams can’t pay this for a 2 way, and the salary isn’t enough in almost all cases.
yeah, this. cissoko was still under contract overseas, so the spurs would not be allowed to buy him out of that while only signing him to a 2-way valued contract.
instead they had to sign him as part of the nba roster... and they only got him on a 3 year deal, where year 1 will be spent basically exclusively in the gleague. ideally the spurs would have longer control, but on the flipside, his deal isnt structured like FRPs where clubs have to exercise options 2 years in advance, so he's only guaranteed for 2 years, with 3rd year effectively being a club option, followed by restricted free agency.
Not really Spurs, but could set the market:
Developing: The Raptors and Pacers are in active talks on a trade centered on two-time All-Star Pascal Siakam for package that includes three first-round picks, league sources say.
Full details at @TheAthletic with Sam_amick:
Yes, Finally Some Action. I Love The Fit For The Pacers.
I'm curious to see what protections are attached
3 FRP for siakam only makes sense if he's committed to an extension, and im pretty sure within the last 24 hours or so he has basically said he's not gonna commit anywhere and wants to test free agency
he makes a lot of sense for indiana though. finally gives turner a good defensive partner. they drafted jerace walker but he's clearly not ready to meaningfully contribute
does that mean raptors gonna tank
I’m not so sure. I assume they need to send out Buddy Heild to begin to match salaries. They may also get Mathirin?
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