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    I guess this whole thing proves that it's better to be an asshole than an idiot.
    I'd say so, yes. A smart asshole has a much better chance at survival than a nice idiot. But luckily, these aren't the only two options. You can be nice and smart.

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    haha...I love how the arena guys cranked up "ya'll ready for this" after horry's foul and the altercations and free throws...

    It just provided very humorous background music for the repeated replays of the incident...

    that song should be the official song of the spurs...i wouldn't be surprised if it replaces the national anthem before games in the at&t center someday

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    yea the sure did up didnt they. i cant believe those ers reacted to such a weeny hit on some scrub...who is that white guy anyways?

    but yet bowen can sweep kick amare and knee that white guy in the bizalls and all he gets is a flagrent.. please.

    That rule is put there so the bench can't react at all. Those two knew that it was ing stupid to go out there.

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    I really hate that argument because you don't know what would've happened.
    If, if, if...
    When you make arguments like this, you're making an opening for people to say "if the refs didn't screw my team" or "if the refs didn't help the suns, the spurs would've won..."
    "If Horry wouldn't have made such a boneheaded move..."

    It goes on and on.
    HAHAH ok have Duncan or Parker sit out the final min of Game 5 if it's a one fg game then

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    all this back and forth ing and yet, where's this RULE that spurs fans are running to hide behind? SHOW ME THE RULE and i'll gladly recant. don't bother to whine some more until you show me the rule. you have got to be a freakin' moron if you haven't noticed the inconsistencies in stern/stu rulings...sigh, once again, rule, rulings, repeat after me, rule, rulings....there IS a difference in meaning between those two words

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    OK, I'm sorry, but that is FUNNY!!!!!
    I am in NO way advocating what Horry did...in fact, I'm completely disgusted by the whole thing for so many reasons...
    BUT...he did not almost BREAK Nash!
    It was hard, yes...but for crying out loud, once Nash fell, the flop that followed was so outlandish, it was funny...
    And I saw the interview after the game with Nash, and he hardly looked like a man who was almost broken.
    That's just funny
    actually, according to another poster, poor Steve Nash was "mauled".

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    You have no idea what you;re talking about. Horry is gone for a min of 2 games without a doubt. Bell did nothing wrong.
    That was my point about Bell...I DON'T know...Someone mentioned him throwing a punch earlier in this thread, and I was asking...ASKING.

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    Not saying they should I'm saying the following things:

    1. Horry is gone for 2-3 games
    2. Diaw (who sucks btw) and Amare are gone for 1 game
    3. If Spurs win game 5 they will lose game 6

    Now carry on with your homer takes
    Why is Horry gone for 2 - 3 games? The NBA rules state a one game suspension is warranted for his actions. Why should he get more? Because his actions goaded two dumb asses to their team over?

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    Not saying they should I'm saying the following things:

    1. Horry is gone for 2-3 games
    2. Diaw (who sucks btw) and Amare are gone for 1 game
    3. If Spurs win game 5 they will lose game 6

    Now carry on with your homer takes
    I am being logical. Rules are rules. It is not my fault the written rule does not favor the suns this time.

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    It says clearly if you are on the court during an altercation you are suspended PERIOD. Look at the Knicks in 97 Ewing had a foot on the court and he was gone the next game. Do some research next time, Amare was on the court and so was Boris by the law they are gone for game 5.
    Do your own research-- it does not say that no matter how hard you try to claim it does--


    During an altercation, all players not participating in the game must remain in the immediate vicinity of their bench.

    I did not see any player not in the vicinty of their respective benches.

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    all this back and forth ing and yet, where's this RULE that spurs fans are running to hide behind? SHOW ME THE RULE and i'll gladly recant. don't bother to whine some more until you show me the rule. you have got to be a freakin' moron if you haven't noticed the inconsistencies in stern/stu rulings...sigh, once again, rule, rulings, repeat after me, rule, rulings....there IS a difference in meaning between those two words
    What are you wearing...for the 2nd time

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    Not saying they should I'm saying the following things:

    1. Horry is gone for 2-3 games
    2. Diaw (who sucks btw) and Amare are gone for 1 game
    3. If Spurs win game 5 they will lose game 6

    Now carry on with your homer takes
    Why will spurs lose game 6?
    i don't trust mavs fans predictions
    they thot they will beat warriors in 5

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    all this back and forth ing and yet, where's this RULE that spurs fans are running to hide behind? SHOW ME THE RULE and i'll gladly recant. don't bother to whine some more until you show me the rule. you have got to be a freakin' moron if you haven't noticed the inconsistencies in stern/stu rulings...sigh, once again, rule, rulings, repeat after me, rule, rulings....there IS a difference in meaning between those two words
    Why are you still camped out here? Shouldnt you still be crying over getting that a** spanked by gs?

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    all this back and forth ing and yet, where's this RULE that spurs fans are running to hide behind? SHOW ME THE RULE and i'll gladly recant. don't bother to whine some more until you show me the rule. you have got to be a freakin' moron if you haven't noticed the inconsistencies in stern/stu rulings...sigh, once again, rule, rulings, repeat after me, rule, rulings....there IS a difference in meaning between those two words
    The fact that NBA precedents have suspended players for merely stepping onto the court during an altercation is all the proof you need. The precedent has been upheld numerous times and the NBA would ruin their credibility to go against it.

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    Do your own research-- it does not say that no matter how hard you try to claim it does--


    During an altercation, all players not participating in the game must remain in the immediate vicinity of their bench.

    The NBA's precedents have shown that a step on the court gets the suspension. They HAVE to uphold that or risk all credibility being lost.

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    Why is Horry gone for 2 - 3 games? The NBA rules state a one game suspension is warranted for his actions. Why should he get more? Because his actions goaded two dumb asses to their team over?
    Get back to me tomorrow then lol. League will justify it by 1 game for the check of Nash into the scorers table and 1 game for the elbow/half swing to the face of Bell. Also since they will suspend Amare and Diaw they will not want to encourage future cheap shots and give the team causing the incident the "advantage". Watch and see

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    all this back and forth ing and yet, where's this RULE that spurs fans are running to hide behind? SHOW ME THE RULE and i'll gladly recant. don't bother to whine some more until you show me the rule. you have got to be a freakin' moron if you haven't noticed the inconsistencies in stern/stu rulings...sigh, once again, rule, rulings, repeat after me, rule, rulings....there IS a difference in meaning between those two words
    a member by the name of "Cherry" posted this in another thread (I haven't verified where she got it, but I think it's legit):

    c. During an altercation, all players not participating in the game must remain in the
    immediate vicinity of their bench. Violators will be suspended, without pay, for a minimum of
    one game and fined up to $50,000.
    The suspensions will commence prior to the start of their next game.

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    Do your own research-- it does not say that no matter how hard you try to claim it does--


    During an altercation, all players not participating in the game must remain in the immediate vicinity of their bench.
    Ok, but isn't the vicinity clearly defined as the black part of the court at the At&T Center?

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    HAHAH ok have Duncan or Parker sit out the final min of Game 5 if it's a one fg game then
    What? So, you're saying that, in your infinite wisdom, had Nash stayed in that final minute, they'd have that game??? Interesting how you can know that.

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    Get back to me tomorrow then lol. League will justify it by 1 game for the check of Nash into the scorers table and 1 game for the elbow/half swing to the face of Bell. Also since they will suspend Amare and Diaw they will not want to encourage future cheap shots and give the team causing the incident the "advantage". Watch and see
    I was thinking the same

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    all this back and forth ing and yet, where's this RULE that spurs fans are running to hide behind? SHOW ME THE RULE and i'll gladly recant. don't bother to whine some more until you show me the rule. you have got to be a freakin' moron if you haven't noticed the inconsistencies in stern/stu rulings...sigh, once again, rule, rulings, repeat after me, rule, rulings....there IS a difference in meaning between those two words
    I think someone posted it a page or so back...and another person actually posted a whole block of rules way earlier in the thread. If I knew where exactly, I'd grab them for you...but, I don't.

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    Im getting tired of this back and forth...see you people in the morning.

    This will be an interesting two days.

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    So, do you think we will find out tomorrow morning? The suspense is killing me...

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    The problem with the whole bench clearing thing is it should be put into context when determining suspensions. If the Suns players went to the fracas, re, to Horry/Raja, then alright, maybe a suspension for Diaw. If they ran over to Nash, they shouldn't be suspended for that...I have yet to watch the replay so I don't remember where they went. As for that little , Horry, he definitely should be suspended not so much for the foul, but for the b.s. afterwards. It's alright to foul hard but he's such a that he couldn't even go over to Nash after the foul and help him up. Nash went over to Parker when they collided, don't expect the same from a sorry like Horry.
    what does Zero tolerance have to do with context?

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    The fact that NBA precedents have suspended players for merely stepping onto the court during an altercation is all the proof you need. The precedent has been upheld numerous times and the NBA would ruin their credibility to go against it.
    You can't claim it is the LETTER of the law and then claim precedents.

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