Scola for Nocioni Picking Up Steam?

[Bruno]

Bulls aren't in a good situation. If the cap is high enough, Memphis will be able to offer Nocioni a $45M contract and Bulls aren't likely to match it with Deng and Gordon future extensions.
They are trying to bluff by saying how great Nocioni is and that they will match offers. And Bulls won't get Gasol without trading Deng.

About Scola : I will be pissed if Spurs trade him for Duhon. I hope Spurs will laugh if Bulls offer that. nocioni or afuture first round pick or Sefolosha are the only interesting and realistic things Bulls can give to get Scola.

[timvp]

nocioni or afuture first round pick or Sefolosha are the only interesting and realistic things Bulls can give to get Scola.

Exactly. Barry and Scola for Duhon wouldn't work due to salaries. It'd have to be Butler, Udrih and Scola for Duhon. That'd be a horrible trade for the Spurs.

I'm not even completely sold on the idea of trading Scola for a future first right now. For all we know, next year could be a weak draft and it'd turn out to be a wasted draft pick.

If the Spurs hold on to Scola and sign him next summer, after two months his value would be higher than a future first rounder. I expect him to be able to put up nice stats in the NBA.

[Bruno]

I too take Sefolosha or Nocioni over the future first. If Spurs get a future first for Scola, they should use it in a trade at the deadline for a vet.

Letting Scola one more year in europe is a risky move. Scola can decide to sign an extension with Tau or sign a big contract with a top euro team in europe next summer.

[K-State Spur]

I too take Sefolosha or Nocioni over the future first. If Spurs get a future first for Scola, they should use it in a trade at the deadline for a vet.

Letting Scola one more year in europe is a risky move. Scola can decide to sign an extension with Tau or sign a big contract with a top euro team in europe next summer.

It's not the best scenario, but I'm not sure how 'risky' it is. In terms of joining the team, if he wants most or all of the MLE, I think the team views that as a bigger risk with dumping that much money into a guy who may not be overly effective with Duncan. If you trade him right now, his market value is obviously very low.

[Big P]

Any body care to translate? Apparently the Bulls & Spurs have already talked about trading Scola for Nocioni, not exactly sure when though.

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El TAU conocerá esta semana si Scola sigue o no en Vitoria la próxima campaña
Los Spurs mantienen aparcada la opción de traspasar sus derechos a otra franquicia El entorno del jugador es pesimista respecto a lograr dar el salto a la NBA este verano



La luz irá abriendo huella los próximos días para aclarar el futuro deportivo del TAU. Ya lo hizo el pasado jueves con la celebración del 'draft' de la NBA y la elección de Tiago Splitter en el número 28 a cargo de los San Antonio Spurs y continuará a la hora de despejar la incógnita respecto a una pieza capital; Luis Scola.

El club vitoriano espera conocer esta semana entrante si el ala-pívot porteño continúa o no en Vitoria una temporada más o logra dar el salto a la NBA, ese sueño que cada verano se hace un poco más inalcanzable. Según estipula su contrato, que no expira hasta el 30 de junio de 2008, el capitán azulgrana tiene de plazo hasta el próximo día 15 para presentar a la entidad baskonista una propuesta firme llegada desde el otro lado del Atlántico que permita romper su filiación azulgrana mediante el correspondiente pago de la cláusula de rescisión. Sin embargo, tanto desde el TAU como desde el entorno del jugador se confía en que el panorama quede aclarado antes. A juicio del agente de Scola, Claudio Villanueva, «este tipo de operaciones o se producen en una semana o no se dan nunca». «No creo que pase de esta semana», calcula el representante.

Y mientras el plazo se agota, los días se suceden sin que los Spurs se hayan planteado un traspaso de los derechos de Scola, un inmovilismo que agranda las esperanzas de que el TAU mantenga en nómina a su buque insignia sobre el parqué. De hecho, la elección de Splitter en la reciente 'lotería de novatos' aumenta aún más la convicción de que la franquicia tejana ha aparcado de forma definitiva el deseo de reclutar al jugador albiceleste.

Tan sólo un equipo de la competición estadounidense se ha planteado una operación con Scola como protagonista. Los Chicago Bulls sopesaron recientemente la posibilidad de un trueque que mandaría a Nocioni a los Spurs y les permitiría reclutar al capitán azulgrana.

Sin embargo, semejante movimiento ha quedado descartado de plano ante el deseo del ex alero baskonista de no ejercer de moneda de cambio justo en el verano en el que debe firmar su segundo contrato en la NBA. En estos momentos, el 'Chapu' es agente libre restringido, puede firmar un contrato con cualquier franquicia y los Bulls tienen el derecho a igualar la oferta para mantenerlo en sus filas. Y no le van a faltar propuestas a Nocioni una vez abierto el mercado de agentes libres.

Renovación

Un hipotético futuro en la NBA para Scola pasa por recalar en otro destino que no sea el del actual campeón de la mejor liga del mundo. Pero el presente le mantiene como jugador referencial en el equipo vitoriano con una temporada más de contrato y con la posibilidad de renovar su vínculo con el TAU. El verano pasado el club ya le propuso la prórroga de su contrato y el presidente azulgrana, Josean Querejeta, siempre ha proclamado su deseo de que Scola se jubile vistiendo la elástica baskonista. De cerrarse su continuidad, Scola pliría su octava temporada en Vitoria.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

It says they will accept Barry and Beno and Scola for Nocioni and their next 3 first round picks.
























































I hope.

[ArgSpursFan]

It´s says that the only way to come to the NBA to Scola will be via trade,and the bulls are interested in him.they´ll be waiting this week to see what happens.
Sorry not enough time today to translate the whole thing.

[T Park]

I dont think Chicago is interested in trading Nocioni.

I've pretty much given up hope that hes coming.


Honestly, now I'd try and trade Elson and sign Scola if he can be had for as cheaply as he supposedly wants to be here for

[BeerIsGood!]

I dont think Chicago is interested in trading Nocioni.

I've pretty much given up hope that hes coming.


Honestly, now I'd try and trade Elson and sign Scola if he can be had for as cheaply as he supposedly wants to be here for

Why are you trading Elson? For what?

[T Park]

cause Scola > Elson

Splitter > Elson

so see what you can get for him

second rounder whatever

package him and Beno and see what offers that gets.

[Ariel]

http://www.ole.com.ar/notas/2007/07/05/01451057.html

Memphis offered $46 million over 5 years. Chicago counter offered $40 million. In any case, we're talking over 8M a year, which would double as the Spurs are on the verge of the luxury tax threshold. Bye bye Nocioni.

[objective]

http://www.ole.com.ar/notas/2007/07/05/01451057.html

Memphis offered $46 million over 5 years. Chicago counter offered $40 million. In any case, we're talking over 8M a year, which would double as the Spurs are on the verge of the luxury tax threshold. Bye bye Nocioni.

damn!

[Marcus Bryant]

http://www.ole.com.ar/notas/2007/07/05/01451057.html

Memphis offered $46 million over 5 years. Chicago counter offered $40 million. In any case, we're talking over 8M a year, which would double as the Spurs are on the verge of the luxury tax threshold. Bye bye Nocioni.

That would be a deal starting at $7.5 mil per or thereabouts. Barry+Beno account for $7.2 mil next season.

[El_Mago]

looks like the spurs are staying intact this summer.

please, no duhon nor grant hill.

give the last roster spot to marcus williams and lets get the season rolling.

[Marcus Bryant]

Plus Chicago has to be willing to take back matching salaries that don't include Gasol.

[Ariel]

That would be a deal starting at $7.5 mil per or thereabouts. Barry+Beno account for $7.2 mil next season.

Yes, but those contracts expire next year. Taking on Nocioni would mean adding another contract for about 8M for the 4 years following that. Are the Spurs ready to make that commitment long term? I don't think so.

[Marcus Bryant]

Yes, but those contracts expire next year. Taking on Nocioni would mean adding another contract for about 8M for the 4 years following that. Are the Spurs ready to make that commitment long term? I don't think so.

Sure, and the cap and the lux tax threshold will increase. Plus the Spurs will have other contracts that will come off the books. No prob.

[Marcus Bryant]

The Bulls won't deal Nocioni to the Grizz unless they get Gasol in return (no Cardinal for them) and the Grizz won't deal Gasol to the Bulls unless they get Deng in return. So no deal.

[Marcus Bryant]

Why does Nocioni go to a Memphis team without Gasol when he can get PAID in SA?

[Marcus Bryant]

Memphis balks at sending Gasol out. Nocioni balks at joining a Memphis team without Gasol. Spurs waiting nearby with Scola and expiring contracts...

[td4mvp3]

part of me wonders if the bulls haven't gone for this because they figure they'll be handing the spurs a crucial missing piece that could make a great team a championship repeat team in 08 while they remain close but not close enough, whereas dealing nocioni somewhere else could increase their chances of winning a le without giving a greater advantage to one of the favorites.

[Marcus Bryant]

I think the Bulls are waiting to see if Memphis will gift them Gasol.

[Ariel]

I don't think a deal between Grizzlies and Bulls is a possibility. Certainly not for Gasol, as it's the main reason they're going after Nocioni (they promised Pau a compe ive team), and they used the Spanish forward as a selling point in their offer to Chapu. So either Nocioni signs with the Grizzlies outright and calls Paxson's bluff, or he signs with the Bulls (or with another team through a S&T).

Sure, and the cap and the lux tax threshold will increase. Plus the Spurs will have other contracts that will come off the books. No prob.

But contracts coming off the books imply that others must come in, in turn adding to the payroll. Eventually, you'd have a large chunk of the payroll committed to 4 players only. Don't get me wrong, I hope they'd be willing to do it, but at this point I'm inclined to believe they're just going to let Barry's contract expire.

[Marcus Bryant]

Would Nocioni rather make the same $ with a lottery team with Gasol or with a le team with Manu + Oberto? Would the Bulls rather get nothing in return or Scola?

[Ariel]

Would Nocioni rather make the same $ with a lottery team with Gasol or with a le team with Manu + Oberto? Would the Bulls rather get nothing in return or Scola?

If the Spurs were to offer nearly the same money (say the $40 million the Bulls are reportedly offering), I have no doubt he'd choose the Spurs. That's why I'm emphasizing the Spurs side of the deal.