Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Pavlov]

Terrified of a 3 month hiatus

I've already done that, genius.

Terrified of talking about anything but muh bets.

[TSA]

Robert Mueller’s team packed with ‘bribery experts’ to expose favors between Trump-Putin



Mueller hired bribery experts that work to investigate the favors given between Trump and Russia’s President Vladimir Putin.

“One of Mueller’s senior prosecutors, Andrew Weissmann, was the former chief of the DOJ’s Criminal Fraud division,where he decided anti-bribery policy at a very high level.

Another member of his legal team, Greg Andres, oversaw the DOJ’s foreign bribery program,”

“[Mueller] brought in expertise in the way these deals are arranged to look very innocuous,”

“The thing about bribery deals is they’re always arranged to look very legitimate.”

Trump offered a penthouse room to Putin in exchange for a Trump Tower in Moscow in 2015.

“So it wouldn’t be a surprise if Trump’s relationship with Russia was built around the exchange of favors, legal or not,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/mueller-brought-on-bribery-experts-to-expose-favors-between-trump-putin/

Weissmann

Why don’t you lay out all of the prosecutorial misconduct Weissmann pulled in the Enron case?

[TSA]

I've already done that, genius.

Terrified of talking about anything but muh bets.

another 3 months just too much too bare

[Pavlov]

another 3 months just too much too bare

"bare"
Terrified of talking about anything but muh bets.

[Nbadan]

Looks like Trump is already throwing the mice under the bus ahead of Mueller indictments...

Rudy Giuliani says Trump didn't collude with Russia but can't say if campaign aides did
Source: CNN

(CNN)Rudy Giuliani said Wednesday that he never denied President Donald Trump's campaign colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 campaign, only that the President himself was not involved in collusion.

In an interview with CNN's Chris Cuomo on "Cuomo Prime Time," Giuliani, a former New York mayor and Trump's attorney, said he doesn't know if other people in the campaign, including former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, were working with the Kremlin during the 2016 presidential race.

"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or people in the campaign," Giuliani said.

He added, "I said the President of the United States. There is not a single bit of evidence the President of the United States committed the only crime you can commit here, conspiring with the Russians to hack the DNC."

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/polit...ntv/index.html

[DarrinS]

Looks like Trump is already throwing the mice under the bus ahead of Mueller indictments...

Rudy Giuliani says Trump didn't collude with Russia but can't say if campaign aides did
Source: CNN



Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/polit...ntv/index.html

Board 9/11 twoofer posting about...

[Pavlov]

Looks like Trump is already throwing the mice under the bus ahead of Mueller indictments...

Rudy Giuliani says Trump didn't collude with Russia but can't say if campaign aides did
Source: CNN



Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/polit...ntv/index.html

So my conspiracy theory jibes with Trump's lawyer's conspiracy theory.

[DarrinS]

So my conspiracy theory jibes with Trump's lawyer's conspiracy theory.

You are in the same page with 9/11 twoofer. Congrats

[Nbadan]

You are in the same page with 9/11 twoofer. Congrats

Like Darrin is the bastion of truthiness here lol

[Pavlov]

You are in the same page with 9/11 twoofer. Congrats

Darrin, I've told you exactly what my conspiracy theory is and it's basically what Nosferatu acceded to.

What is your theory about the FBI/CIA/Obama administration's conspiracy to get Trump?

I know you prefer to just post YouTubes and memes boring people shared with you, but I'm asking you directly what you think.

[boutons_deux]

Thinking the unthinkable about Donald Trump

What if Trump really is working for Russia? What then?

“Agents also sought to determine whether Mr. Trump was knowingly working for Russia or had unwittingly fallen under Moscow’s influence.”

What did the “work” Trump may have been doing for Russia consist of?

Why would an independently wealthy businessman like Trump “work” for a country which has opposed us around the world for so long?

he appeared to have been unaware that the FBI was exploring the question of whether he worked for Russia.

it seems that at least

working with Russia was constantly on his mind.

As early as July 26, 2016, during his campaign for president, Trump woke up and tweeted, “For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia.” He wasn’t even the Republican nominee yet.

Clinton speculated that Trump was always praising Putin “maybe because he wants to do business in Moscow, I don’t know the reasons.”

Trump quickly fired back: “I have no businesses there. I have no loans from Russia.” Clinton had not raised the question of “loans from Russia.” Trump did.

Clinton shot back, “Well, that's because he'd rather have a puppet as president of the United States.”

Trump seemed threatened by the charge. “No puppet. No puppet," he cried defensively. "You're the puppet! No, you're the puppet!”

October 25 at a rally in Tampa, Florida, Trump again denied connections to Russia:

“You know, every time Russia is brought up, they say, oh, Trump! What do I have to do with it? She always likes to tie me in with Russia.

I have nothing to do with Russia, folks. I’ll give you a written statement, I have nothing to do.

But they tie me in with Russia, all the time, they tie me into Russia, and

they say such bad things about Putin, and

then they’re supposed to negotiate with him? Why would he do this?”

Trump’s sympathy for Russian President Putin was entirely unprompted.

No one was taking Putin’s side in any possible negotiation but Trump.

On January 11, less than two weeks before he would take the oath of office, Trump woke up and tweeted at 7:31 a.m., seemingly out of the blue:

“Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!”

Trump had won the election.

No one was accusing him of having “deals” or “loans” with Russia. His tweet was entirely unprompted.

“So I tweeted out that I have no dealings with Russia. I have no deals that could happen in Russia, because we’ve stayed away. And I have no loans with Russia. As a real estate developer, I have very, very little debt. I have assets that are — and now people have found out how big the company is, I have very little debt — I have very low debt. But I have no loans with Russia at all. And I thought that was important to put out. I certified that. So I have no deals, I have no loans and I have no dealings. We could make deals in Russia very easily if we wanted to, I just don’t want to because I think that would be a conflict. So I have no loans, no dealings, and no current pending deals.”

No one but Trump brought up “debt” the Trump Organization might hold.

Again, his specific denials that he had “deals” and “loans” were unprompted.

But without being prompted by Holt, Trump continued with this lengthy denial:

“I have nothing to do with Russia.

I have no investments in Russia, none whatsoever.

I don’t have property in Russia.

A lot of people thought I owned office buildings in Moscow.

I don’t have property in Russia …

I built a great company, but I’m not involved with Russia.

I have had dealings with them over the years where I sold a house to a very wealthy Russian many years ago.

I had the Miss Universe pageant which I owned for quite a while.

I had it in Moscow a long time ago, but other than that,

I have nothing to do with Russia.”

Trump, who is known to be impatient with the daily intelligence briefing ... apparently

took the time to learn something of value from American intelligence that day.

What did he do with it? He revealed his highly classified secrets to the Russians.

Trump’s Russia denials reached an apparent apex on Monday, when he stood on the White House lawn and said several times,

"I never worked for Russia."

what hold could Putin possibly have over him?

Russia “giving money to Trump in 2008.”

“That’s how Putin does business,” McFaul went on to explain.

“He gives money to people for free, and then they collect.”

How long has it been going on?

How did it work?

Why did it begin in the first place?

Was Trump facing bankruptcy and Putin bailed him out, and now Trump owes him?

There are three big questions we don’t have answers for.

First, what is Putin’s overall aim?

We know that like every Russian leader before him, he would like to see NATO weakened, if not broken up altogether, and he’d like to see the European Union come apart at the seams.

The second question is, what will happen if Trump stops giving Putin what he wants? What will they do to him?

the third question: If Trump is actually working for Russia because Putin in effect owns him, how can he extricate himself? Better still, can he extricate himself?

When you start looking for the answers to questions like these, Trump’s lies about Russia appear in an entirely different light.

the lie we heard him utter on Monday afternoon on his way to address the farmers in New Orleans. “I never worked for Russia.”

After asking us to believe all those other lies he’s had to backtrack on, now he needs us to believe the big one to survive.

he’s afraid of what Vladimir Putin will do to him if he’s ousted.

Given Putin’s track record, I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes.

Would you?

https://www.salon.com/2019/01/16/thi...-donald-trump/

[DMC]

No, I simply refused your bet.

I think bets here are stupid.

You proved it with your meaningless weasel bet.

Now it's all you want to talk about. Which is probably a good idea for you, since your FISA conspiracy is another dead end for you.

Wait... so you'll go 200 pages of bickering for days on end, posting the same exact phrase countless times (actually 99,999 at last count but that was "that guy") but bets are stupid?

[Pavlov]

Wait... so you'll go 200 pages of bickering for days on end, posting the same exact phrase countless times (actually 99,999 at last count but that was "that guy") but bets are stupid?

Lots of things here are stupid.

Your obsession with the personal lives and details of posters is creepy.

[Pavlov’s worn chair]

Lots of things here are stupid.

Your obsession with the personal lives and details of posters is creepy.

Don’t let him get under your skin. I’m here for you.

[Will Hunting]

Don’t let him get under your skin. I’m here for you.

Hi Derp.

[djohn2oo8]

So my conspiracy theory jibes with Trump's lawyer's conspiracy theory.

Rudy moving them goalposts.

[djohn2oo8]

You are in the same page with 9/11 twoofer. Congrats

Why did Rudy change his answer from no collusion?

[hater]

You are in the same page with 9/11 twoofer. Congrats

[hater]

Wait... so you'll go 200 pages of bickering for days on end, posting the same exact phrase countless times (actually 99,999 at last count but that was "that guy") but bets are stupid?

[djohn2oo8]

[djohn2oo8]

[TSA]

the djohn rule: wait 24 hours and guaranteed to be bull

[Pavlov]

TSA posting about "conspiracy theory culture"

[hater]

Is Giuliani lawyer for Trump or the entire Trump Campaignteam? Just asking tbqh

[boutons_deux]

Did Trump campaign soften platform language to benefit Russia?

Feaver said that he ultimately can’t verify from a fact-checking point of view what caused the platform to change, adding that the public has very little visibility into the policy side of Trump’s campaign.

"The shift went in the direction of Trump's public statements," he said.

"It strikes me as plausible that Trump's campaign pushed for the shift.

"I would be surprised if Trump had NOT tried to nudge the platform at least some places towards his own stances."

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/aug/04/did-trump-campaign-soften-platform-language-benefi/

I wonder if Mueller has interviewed anybody who was involved with 2016 Repug platform?

Seems like logical place to find evidence of Trash's treason