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    Even though I have zero exposure, except what I see here.

    Now I ask that you think outside that tiny box you live in for a moment...

    Don't you think it's possible that they simply reflect the views of people like me, rather than people like me watching them to know what to think?

    The Mad Cow is a chronic liar. She is one of the most inaccurate propaganda puppets out there. At the moment, only Randi Rhodes comes to mind as the bigger liar.
    Give us some examples off the top of your head. No googling. We can verify later.

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    WC simply can't stand the slapping Rachel whups on the Repugs every night.

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    Except it wasn't exactly like Libya, since we did provide physical support. AFAIK, we didn't provide material support to Egypt.

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    Weeks after she was forced to retract her "60 Minutes" report on the attack in Benghazi, Libya, Lara Logan and producer Max McClellan will be taking a leave of absence from the CBS News staple.
    The Huffington Post's Michael Calderone broke the news.


    Logan was forced to admit that the report was a "mistake" after a British security contractor's account of the attack was discredited.

    In a memo circulated Tuesday and obtained by HuffPost, CBS News chairman and "60 Minutes" executive producer Jeff er detailed the findings from his review of Logan's report. er wrote that Logan did not adequately attribute "her assertions that Al Qaeda carried out the attack" and that she had an apparent "conflict" in covering the story:

    --Questions have also been raised about the role of Al Qaeda in the attack since Logan declared in the report that Al Qaeda fighters had carried it out. Al Qaeda’s role is the subject of much disagreement and debate. While Logan had multiple sources and good reasons to have confidence in them, her assertions that Al Qaeda carried out the attack and controlled the hospital were not adequately attributed in her report.
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...rom-60-minutes

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    NYTimes Investigation Brings Bad News For Benghazi Hoaxers

    Months of investigation by The New York Times, centered on extensive interviews with Libyans in Benghazi who had direct knowledge of the attack there and its context, turned up no evidence that Al Qaeda or other international terrorist groups had any role in the assault. The attack was led, instead, by fighters who had benefited directly from NATO's extensive air power and logistics support during the uprising against Colonel Qaddafi. And contrary to claims by some members of Congress, it was fueled in large part by anger at an American-made video denigrating Islam.

    There is no doubt that anger over the video motivated many attackers. A Libyan journalist working for The New York Times was blocked from entering by the sentries outside, and he learned of the film from the fighters who stopped him. Other Libyan witnesses, too, said they received lectures from the attackers about the evil of the film and the virtue of defending the prophet.

    But the Republican arguments appear to conflate purely local extremist organizations like Ansar al-Shariah with Al Qaeda's international terrorist network.The only intelligence connecting Al Qaeda to the attack was an intercepted phone call that night from a participant in the first wave of the attack to a friend in another African country who had ties to members of Al Qaeda, according to several officials briefed on the call. But when the friend heard the attacker's boasts, he sounded astonished, the officials said, suggesting he had no prior knowledge of the assault.

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/12...r-bengh/197381

    So, another attack on USA as blowback for USA's attack on The Prophet and his religion.

    And American sheeple, esp Muslim-hating "Christians" ask, "Why Do They Hate Us?"



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    Yep.

    We helped the wrong guys. Should have left Gaddafi in power.

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    GOP Report Acknowledges That The U.S. Military Couldn’t Have Changed Benghazi Outcome

    In a new report released on Tuesday, the House Armed Services Committee concludes that there was no way for the U.S. military to have responded in time to the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya to save the four Americans killed that night. In doing so, the report debunks entirely a right-wing myth that says the White House ordered the military not to intervene.

    For months after the attack that resulted in the death of U.S. Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens, conservative media was awash in reports that on the night of the assault the Obama administration at some point ordered the military not to take action that would have saved lives. This supposed “stand down order” led to a bevy of right-wing conspiracies about just why the President and his administration had let the Americans die.

    “Who told the SEALs to stand down?” Rep. Steve King asked in Nov. 2012, in just one of many interviews with Republicans referring to the response to Benghazi as “worse than Watergate.


    As Media Matters reports, Fox News cited reports of a stand-down order no fewer than 85 times during prime-time segments as of June 2013. As the new report — which the Republican majority of the committee authored –makes very clear in its findings, however, no such order ever existed. “There was no ‘stand down’ order issued to U.S. military personnel in Tripoli who sought to join the fight in Benghazi,” the report says, noting that the military was not positioned to respond to the attack.


    “Given the military’s preparations on September 11, 2012, majority members have not yet discerned any response alternatives that could have likely changed the outcome of the Benghazi attack,” the report concludes.


    http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/...military-hasc/



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    They shouldn't have been left in such an unguarded position to begin with.

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    Your point?

    Did you know that I don't watch Fox News?
    But do you listen to conservative talk radio?

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    But do you listen to conservative talk radio?
    Not regularly.

    Your prejudiced responses are going to put you in a serious bind some day.

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    So yes.

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    Far less than you listen to any liberal news I bet. I only listen to talk radio when I am driving. For the last several months, I haven't changed my car radio from a classic rock station. 92.3 KGON, and they rarely report politics at all.

    One of my coworkers is always visiting liberal sites and printing material out at work. He then propagates the same bull You lemmings start threads here about. I often have a heads up and do searches myself as to the truth of matters.

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    Far less than you listen to any liberal news I bet. I only listen to talk radio when I am driving. For the last several months, I haven't changed my car radio from a classic rock station. 92.3 KGON, and they rarely report politics at all.

    One of my coworkers is always visiting liberal sites and printing material out at work. He then propagates the same bull You lemmings start threads here about. I often have a heads up and do searches myself as to the truth of matters.
    I don't listen to Liberal news. I listen to WCBS news radio 88 in new York while I drive. No way is that news packed with talk shows full of political opinions.

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    I don't listen to Liberal news. I listen to WCBS news radio 88 in new York while I drive. No way is that news packed with talk shows full of political opinions.
    And television?

    It is rare for me to turn the local news on, and I discarded cable years ago. Most the stuff I see is from these forums I visit.

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    This Map Is Not the Benghazi Smoking Gun Conservatives Think It Is



    This map of the location of US Navy ships during the 2012 attack on the consulate in Benghazi, Libya, obtained by the conservative group Judicial Watch, is the latest purported smoking gun in what Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has called "the worst tragedy since 9/11." The implication: The White House was in a position to intervene while the attack was ongoing but, for some reason, chose not to. "Map Shows Dozens of U.S. Military Ships Stationed In North Africa Waters During Benghazi Attack," wrote Katie Pavlich at Town Hall, a headline that was picked up by the esteemed Fox Nation.

    But that's not quite right. Most of the "dozens" of ships were nowhere near Benghazi, and the list includes many vessels that wouldn't do much good in a rescue situation.

    For instance, the Lewis and Clark is a cargo vessel, and it was somewhere off the coast of West Africa.

    The map features eight minesweepers and a tug boat in Bahrain, in the Persian Gulf, a very long way from Benghazi.

    The Laramie, an oiler, was off the coast of Yemen.

    Per the Navy, the nearest aircraft carrier was 128 hours away.

    Only a handful of ships were even in the same body of water as Benghazi, and given the small window in which the attack unfolded, mobilizing a destroyer from the Iranian coastline probably wasn't going to fix the problem.


    Still, with Hillary Clinton, the secretary of state at the time, mulling a presidential bid, expect even more Benghazi "smoking guns" in the years ahead.


    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014...oking-gun-ever



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    So you wanted them all to disclose classified information to the public?

    L

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    That's OK. Republicans did that for them.
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    Hillary gave away classified info to everybody and their dog

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    With Egypt, doing nothing put the US on the right side of history in the region for once.

    Given the fact that a lot of our problems around there came from installing and/or propping up dictators, I'm fine with trying something different. We'll have to wait some years to see if the result is any different.
    Chump's patented Do Nothing philosophy.

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    lol

    Wait some years = don't blame Obama.
    Yup. But Egyptians were smart enough to boot Chump's Muslim Brotherhood on their own and in months not years like Chump forecasted.

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    They knew within 24 hours, but kept talking about the Youtube video. It's not surprising you won't admit that.
    And yet Trump has known for 7 months, but kept talking about how it would just go away

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    And yet Trump has known for 7 months, but kept talking about how it would just go away
    I had Chinese lung AIDS and it was a Nothingburger.

    Lol, desperately searching for Benghazi thread to bump.

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    I had Chinese lung AIDS and it was a Nothingburger.

    Lol, desperately searching for Benghazi thread to bump.
    4 > 200000?

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    And yet Trump has known for 7 months, but kept talking about how it would just go away
    Such shameless narratives.

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    Imagine a 200,000 patty nothingburger

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    His disease deaths don’t matter criteria still doesn’t explain why the 4 Benghazi deaths matter so much more than the 60+ deaths that occurred during embassy attacks under Bush

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/13-be...urre_b_3246847

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    I had Chinese lung AIDS and it was a Nothingburger.

    Lol, desperately searching for Benghazi thread to bump.
    You survived Benghazi too.

    And 9/11.

    All nothingburgers to you, chubbs.

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