SF, SF, SF, Small Forwards, Small Forwards

[duncan2k5]

We not doing any trades might as well just focus on 2019 draft which SF do you want to get drafted??

This guy is smart... Every year we work ourselves up over possible trades and spurs never do anything

[Larry O]

Well, here's a weird situation: according to Woj in an ESPN article, the Cavs have waived Patrick McCaw on Sunday, just after having signed him to a $6M non-guaranteed contract deal. So, this makes the 6-7 shooting guard a RFA. Previously, the Worriers didn't want to match the offer, so the Cavs decided to pick him up. So he's available, but I think that there may be a money amount demand involved along with baggage from his manager/Dad(?), ala like No. 2, perhaps. I can see the Rocketts jumping all over this, but would the Spurs & fans have an intrest in him as well? GSG!!!

[DaBears]

SPURS are Guard heavy, no need for more mini minions, they need some jolly green giants. if Rudy goes down for any significant time SPURS are in trouble. PF/C/SF are what we need.. McCaw is not the answer nor would it make the team much better..
I would go for someone off the bucks roster though, they have some young talent over there.

[Dverde]

Well, here's a weird situation: according to Woj in an ESPN article, the Cavs have waived Patrick McCaw on Sunday, just after having signed him to a $6M non-guaranteed contract deal. So, this makes the 6-7 shooting guard a RFA. Previously, the Worriers didn't want to match the offer, so the Cavs decided to pick him up. So he's available, but I think that there may be a money amount demand involved along with baggage from his manager/Dad(?), ala like No. 2, perhaps. I can see the Rocketts jumping all over this, but would the Spurs & fans have an intrest in him as well? GSG!!!

He doesn’t seem over himself. Pass.

[pad300]

Well, here's a weird situation: according to Woj in an ESPN article, the Cavs have waived Patrick McCaw on Sunday, just after having signed him to a $6M non-guaranteed contract deal. So, this makes the 6-7 shooting guard a RFA. Previously, the Worriers didn't want to match the offer, so the Cavs decided to pick him up. So he's available, but I think that there may be a money amount demand involved along with baggage from his manager/Dad(?), ala like No. 2, perhaps. I can see the Rocketts jumping all over this, but would the Spurs & fans have an intrest in him as well? GSG!!!

What's going on is the Cavs and McCaw's people have an informal deal. McCaw was locked into GS by RFA status. He signed an UGA contract with the Cavs that was rich, so that GSW (or anyone else) wouldn't want to match, buts CLE didn't actually want either. This gets McCaw off RFA status. He will now wait out his waiver process (it's like a week), and sign a cheaper guaranteed contract with CLE (which GS would have matched)... it's a loophole in the CBA.

[Dverde]

Any chance Detroit moves Reggie Bullock? He’s shooting 40% from 3PT line and can play SF. He’s a free agent in the offseason.

[Chinook]

If Bullock can play the three, so can DeRozan.

[R. DeMurre]

The assumption is that Minny is tanking and looking to acquire future assets. No indication of that and I think the firing of Thibs signals the opposite, they believe they’re underachieving, Thibs is unpopular and disruptive to team chemistry and brining in someone else in will make them a better team, improve their playoff chances. Spurs would have to trade assets that would improve the Pups chances this year even with subtracting Covington. Doubt anyone here is willing to trade Derozan or White. The knucklehead Duncan2k5 would trade Aldridge. A few would trade Murray or Walker but even that wouldn’t move the trade needle as those would be longer term moves.

We’re in the time of season where tens thousands of words will be splashed on Spurstalk about trades up until the trade deadline where nothing happens followed by a week or two of grousing.

After maxing out Towns and Wiggins and getting Covington and Saric, I just don't see tanking as very likely. They probably have regrets about giving Wiggins so much money, but trading him (almost an impossibility) might actually make them better, not worse.

[sasaint]

SPURS are Guard heavy, no need for more mini minions, they need some jolly green giants. if Rudy goes down for any significant time SPURS are in trouble. PF/C/SF are what we need.. McCaw is not the answer nor would it make the team much better..
I would go for someone off the bucks roster though, they have some young talent over there.

True. I don't usually participate, but this season I kind of got sucked into the speculation pool. It passes a little time and does give the brain a little bit to work on...

[sasaint]

After maxing out Towns and Wiggins and getting Covington and Saric, I just don't see tanking as very likely. They probably have regrets about giving Wiggins so much money, but trading him (almost an impossibility) might actually make them better, not worse.

Wiggins is theirs almost as much as Wall is the Wiz's.

[R. DeMurre]

Wiggins is theirs almost as much as Wall is the Wiz's.

I discovered something statistically hilarious yesterday on the Basketball Reference website:
The player with the closest Similarity Scores to Wiggins after 4 seasons is......

Matt Bonner.

https://www.basketball-reference.com...wiggian01.html (scroll towards the bottom)

[sasaint]

I discovered something statistically hilarious yesterday on the Basketball Reference website:
The player with the closest Similarity Scores to Wiggins after 4 seasons is......

Matt Bonner.

https://www.basketball-reference.com...wiggian01.html

Matty be demanding some back pay...

[Mr. Body]

Spurs aren't making any trades. With this chemistry? No way. They'll have trouble enough handling Gasol, and he's super-veteran and won't make waves. Adding some unknown at this point is ludicrous.

[GreekSpursfan]

If you have a superstar mvp calliber player then you make whatever is possible, trades whatever in order not to waste his productive years. We dont have that here so Pop is gonna stick to what he has. You dont give away picks or assets like that.

[pad300]

If Bullock can play the three, so can DeRozan.

Derozan can play the 3, yes. But if you play him at the 2, he has a physical advantage... Maximizing his advantage is a positive for the team.

I'm not sure if Bullock is gettable - he's playing 30 mpg for the Pistons on a cheap contract ($2.5 Million), and they are trying to make the playoffs... Nor am I sure he's a fit; he's Danny Green sized, but he's not a strong defensive player.

[objective]

Problem with expecting Minny to make a move based on tanking is that the trade deadline is only a month away and the way the West is going the only team that will likely feel they’re out of it are the Suns.

Covington is out for 'extended time' with a knee bone bruise.

No timetable that I could find for how long he'll be out, could be a month, could be after the deadline even. If he is out another month, Wolves could be far enought back in the playoff picture even in the west that they might be inclined to tank for the rest of the season. They're 2-2 without him including 2 straight blowout wins, so maybe they'll be fine.

While it doesn't make any sense for Minnesota to trade him even for picks, they don't always do rational things. If they were willing to deal Covington, I'd hope the Spurs threw both firsts and the rights to Milutinov if that's what it took. Even if that meant involving Sacramento and sending Pau+Milutinov to the Kings to send Koufos to MIN to give them savings now and even more savings next year. Even though Covington wasn't good in the playoffs, he's still a two-way player on a great contract. Makes less than Mills and can start and finish.

[Dverde]

Derozan can play the 3, yes. But if you play him at the 2, he has a physical advantage... Maximizing his advantage is a positive for the team.

I'm not sure if Bullock is gettable - he's playing 30 mpg for the Pistons on a cheap contract ($2.5 Million), and they are trying to make the playoffs... Nor am I sure he's a fit; he's Danny Green sized, but he's not a strong defensive player.

Yeah, he isn’t as big as I thought. He is 6’7 with a fat looking face, but his skinnier than I thought, probably better off playing SG. I think he would be a nice depth pickup. He could be helpful when injuries come up. I’m going to watch him closely when they play the Pistons. Looking at all the non-playoff teams, he seemed like a good trade candidate. My guess is Detroit wants to keep him. Spurs would probably have to give up a draft pick for him.

[MaNu4Tres]

Covington is out for 'extended time' with a knee bone bruise.

No timetable that I could find for how long he'll be out, could be a month, could be after the deadline even. If he is out another month, Wolves could be far enought back in the playoff picture even in the west that they might be inclined to tank for the rest of the season. They're 2-2 without him including 2 straight blowout wins, so maybe they'll be fine.

While it doesn't make any sense for Minnesota to trade him even for picks, they don't always do rational things. If they were willing to deal Covington, I'd hope the Spurs threw both firsts and the rights to Milutinov if that's what it took. Even if that meant involving Sacramento and sending Pau+Milutinov to the Kings to send Koufos to MIN to give them savings now and even more savings next year. Even though Covington wasn't good in the playoffs, he's still a two-way player on a great contract. Makes less than Mills and can start and finish.

Give Lonnie a crack at it first before unloading assets.

[sasaint]

Give Lonnie a crack at it first before unloading assets.

Lonnie is a SG, not a permanent solution to the SF problem

[objective]

Give Lonnie a crack at it first before unloading assets.

Disagree. Because Covington has 2.5 inches on Lonnie, is locked in for 3 more years and there's not even a lot of room on the roster for keeping 2 firsts as is. If they keep Gay and stretch Pau, add the two firsts and that gets them to 14 spots. 1 spot for the MLE if they can even spend it. Maybe two spots if they do a draft and stash on one of the picks.

If they can consolidate on a player who can play defense, has size for his position, and doesn't need the ball and can play off of Aldridge and DeRozan, I hope the Spurs would do so.

[MaNu4Tres]

Disagree. Because Covington has 2.5 inches on Lonnie, is locked in for 3 more years and there's not even a lot of room on the roster for keeping 2 firsts as is. If they keep Gay and stretch Pau, add the two firsts and that gets them to 14 spots. 1 spot for the MLE if they can even spend it. Maybe two spots if they do a draft and stash on one of the picks.

If they can consolidate on a player who can play defense, has size for his position, and doesn't need the ball and can play off of Aldridge and DeRozan, I hope the Spurs would do so.

Gay, and Belinelli wont last very long on this team. Gay is breaking down, and doesn't project to age well & Belinelli at best has 1 more year. I would not give up 2 1sts for Covington. I like Lonnie, and a lot of wings in the range Spurs are set to pick from.

[MaNu4Tres]

Lonnie is a SG, not a permanent solution to the SF problem

In today's NBA Lonnie can play the 2 or 3. He can defend 3 positions, like White.

Skillsets > labeled positions.

In the perfect world sure, I wish Lonnie was 6'8" w out the hair, instead of with the hair.

[objective]

Gay, and Belinelli wont last very long on this team. Gay is breaking down, and doesn't project to age well & Belinelli at best has 1 more year. I would not give up 2 1sts for Covington. I like Lonnie, and a lot of wings in the range Spurs are set to pick from.

I like Lonnie also, but if the Spurs hold up mostly healthy for the rest of the year, they'll have both picks in the 20s. Not a lot of big wings who can contribute right away to be found in the 20s. On top of that, they have to worry about Aldridge and DeRozan (but particularly Aldridge) aging out of any kind of contention hopes. There won't even be that much cap relief if say Aldridge was let go because soon enough Murray and Poeltl will be eligible to get paid.

[MaNu4Tres]

I would try this rotation:

LA - Rudy - DeMar - Lonnie - White

Yak - Bertans - Beli or Mills - Forbes

Before selling our 2 1sts & Milutinov for Covington.

[sasaint]

In today's NBA Lonnie can play the 2 or 3. He can defend 3 positions, like White.

Skillsets > labeled positions.

In the perfect world sure, I wish Lonnie was 6'8" w out the hair, instead of with the hair.

Different perspectives. I would rather have a legit SF and LWIV for some swing duty.