The Spurs don't have any roster space....I doubt the late two draft picks will be used on anyone of consquence, probably just some more international prospects that won't be on the team next year...and may never be.
They'll open up at least 4 roster spaces, IMO. Maybe 3. And as I just said, I'd take Richards right now over Jackie Butler, and I suspect the team would, too. Not that they'd buy out the contract, but I do see them using the late pick if Craig Bradshaw or someone like that is available.
How do you figure they don't have any roster spots?
Jacque and Melvin won't be under contract. JWhite isn't guaranteed. Robert Horry may retire. Matt Bonner is a free agent (though I think they'll re-sign him).
That's five roster spots.
As of right now, w/o trades or cuts, there are a MAX of four roster spots open next year...and that's assuming that neither Bonner or Vaughn are re-signed. Then you have to take into account the possibility of signing Scola, and the possiblity that Mahinmi will accept the Spurs offer this summer (a mandatory requirement of Spurs FO). If Bonner and Vaughn DO re-sign, that leaves the Spurs with no roster spots available and a necessity to reach a buyout agreement or trade with one or more of the players on the current roster....as Bruno eluded to earlier, that's easier said than done.
Your su ions/assumptions about Butler probably aren't right....remember, they were offered something for him at the trade deadline by the 76ers and didn't bite. He's had a rough start for sure, but I doubt the Spurs have given up on him.
The player should pay the buyout with his own money.
The nba team can help the player to pay his buyout by :
- Give $500,000 to the euro team.
- Salaries for first round picks should be between 80% and 120% of the rookie scale salaries. A team can sign a player to 120% to give him more money to pay his buyout. It's not a big help because almost first round picks almost always get 120%.
- The nba team can pick up the team options on the 3rd and 4th year when the player sign the contract to give him more guaranteed money.
It's it not enough to pay his buyout, the player is stuck in europe until his buyout decrease or the end of his contract.
Well the Spurs won't sign Mahinmi and Scola this summer if they have their current set of bigs all under contract. We have an overabundance of bigs already.
The only way both Mahinmi and Scola come is if something like three of the bigs are gone (Horry, Ely, Bonner).
Jacque isn't under contract, but after what the Spurs have seen from Beno this year, you think they'd be willing to go into next season with him as the backup and have no security behind him? There will be three PGs on this team next season...and as of right now, Beno is one of them.
White is the only one I left out of my assessment. It is difficult to tell whether he will be with the team next year, because someone that plays his position might be drafted by the Spurs...but given what he's shown, the Spurs FO might have a hard time cutting him when he comes so cheap.
Well according to Bruno, it is a league requirement under the current CBA for teams to offer their first round picks the standard contract each summer. If Mahinmi doesn't want to play 5 minutes a game in France and wants to earn a paycheck, he'll take the offer the Spurs HAVE to give. Granted, that puts the Spurs in a bind with Scola, BUT the Spurs FO was quoted as saying it's "absolutely" a possibility they would bring over Scola...so they'll at least explore it.
The Mahinmi contract is more of a formality than anything, isn't it? A team isn't forced to sign a player and that team doesn't automatically lose that player's rights. Mahinmi doesn't necessarily come this summer if the Spurs don't want him yet.
Haslem case isn't very common. He weigthed 300lbs during the draft, spend one year in France and during that year, he lost 70lbs.
Thanks for the info. Because apparently Rudy is under contract until 2009 and the potential buyout is a concern. That might be a big pill for Rudy to swallow if he has to take it out of hide....he might actually end up earning more money in Europe if he has to use a portion of his salary to pay the buyout.
Offering Mahinmi a contract from what I understand is just a formality thing. They don't have to offer it with any intention of him taking it (or wanting him to take it). And from what I hear from people playing in Euroleague, Scola doesn't think he'll be a Spur next year.
But they absolutely will not both be here if the Spurs current bigs are all still under contract. The Spurs aren't going to carry nine big men.
No, Haslem was a special case, but Richards is a special case, too -- he could have played as a starter for most Division I teams.
Talk to Bruno, he seems to know what he's saying...
Correct.
It just doesn't seem quite so draconian as that. What about Orlando with Fran Vasquez? Rules are generally aligned to help teams over players and I don't see why this would be any different. Rookies or players not even in the league do not hold teams hostage. The Mahinmi case is different, anyway: if they tell him to play abroad another year, he will.
The Spurs still have to offer it, and no matter how much talking they do, if he wants to take it, he'll take it.
That's not exactly how it works.
It's more than just a formality. It's a rule to avoid that teams keep player who wnats to play in nba outside the nba.
Okay, so then I'm confused. You're saying that if they don't offer him the contract, they won't lose his rights?
Honestly, I hope you're right. Mahinmi isn't ready to contribute and would be better served to come over in 2008 when there will be less of a roster crunch.
No, that's not what I'm saying. They will offer him a tender contract, if they don't he would become a free agent. But I have never in my life heard of a player accepting such a deal if the team doesn't want him here. It's normally understood between the player and the team what their plans are. Sure, he could force himself here if he wanted, but that's not in his best interest long term.
If the Spurs want him here next year, he'll be here. If they don't, he won't be.
Bruno offered an example of Chris Duhon...though you'll have to ask him the details.
Anyway, my point really wasn't that Scola and Mahinmi won't come this summer. My point was that most NBA teams carry around six/seven big men. It's unheard of to carry nine. So, if those two are coming, Ely plus two of the Spurs other bigs likely won't be here.
But IMO, Scola won't ever be a Spur.
Chris Duhon was a second round pick.
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