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    Did Bell throw a punch at Horry? Did Horry throw a punch at Bell? I have to believe that if Bell had, he would've been suspended as well.
    Don't you mean Nash, mavfan?

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    But from that argument, you can be damn sure that an elbow shove is an altercation. There could be a grey area in other cases, but in this, it's very black and white.
    Very true.

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    Don't you mean Nash, mavfan?
    Did Nash throw a punch? All I remember is him overselling the flagrant, getting up in Horry's face and attempting to jostle with him before being held back by his teammates.

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    Did Nash throw a punch? All I remember is him overselling the flagrant, getting up in Horry's face and attempting to jostle with him before being held back by his teammates.
    The language in the rule doesn't define an "altercation." Is it really worth tarnishing a series after the entire sequence resulted in no harm, no foul, just a cripple "fight" between Nash and Horry?
    Did you actually see this play?

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    You just answered your own question.

    Stay near the bench.
    That's pretty weak. Altercation to me is Knicks-Nuggets, Pistons-Pacers.

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    I put fight in scare quotes for a reason.

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    Steve Trash and his blatant flopping fooled his own teammates. He exaggerated the love tap from Horry by flailing his feet in the air like he was hit by a train. Funny how he instantly got up a second later.

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    That's pretty weak. Altercation to me is Knicks-Nuggets, Pistons-Pacers.
    Well, you're stupid. What can I say.

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    Well, you're stupid. What can I say.
    "My argument is weak, I have to resort to ad hominem."

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    No, your stupidity is a consistent trend. It was an altercation.

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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=yp4UF4Av_g0

    Here is the video for the millionth time. Check the 1:05 to 1:10 mark, Horry shoved his elbow in Bell's throat, what else do you want for it to be warranted an altercation? Horry grabbing a 2x4 and smashed Bell's head so hard his eyes popped out? Bell cutting Horry's ears off with rusty razors, pour gasoline on him while dancing to "Stuck in the middle with you"?

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    The only ty thing about the suspensions is that it gave S0ns fans an excuse to keep ing for the next few months. It comes as no surprise why the S0ns have never won a 'ship. Their players and fanbase prefers to whine off the court instead of proving themselves in the game. Without the media riding their they really are a one trick pony:

    Nash's 2 MVPs are the biggest joke of all time. Talk about undeserved. Thanks to the ignorant 60 year old white guys that know all about BBall Steve Trash gets a free pass into the hall of fame. Give those MVPs back to Shaq and Kobe. Thanks to Nash the MVP award's been tarnished forever.

    Marion being a DPOY candidate...LOL. It's funny how this loser can't even make the All-Defensive team. Probably cause the defensive teams are voted on by COACHES and not the clueless media.

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    No, your stupidity is a consistent trend. It was an altercation.
    More ad hominem. Sigh.

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    More stupidity. Sigh.

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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=yp4UF4Av_g0

    Here is the video for the millionth time. Check the 1:05 to 1:10 mark, Horry shoved his elbow in Bell's throat, what else do you want for it to be warranted an altercation? Horry grabbing a 2x4 and smashed Bell's head so hard his eyes popped out? Bell cutting Horry's ears off with rusty razors, pour gasoline on him while dancing to "Stuck in the middle with you"?
    A punch thrown. No punches, no altercation.

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    More stupidity. Sigh.

    More insecurity.

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    A punch thrown. No punches, no altercation.
    Punches aren't necessary for an altercation. Sorry.

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    A punch thrown. No punches, no altercation.
    If a punch thrown is needed, then the rule would have said a punch thrown. Would a kick in the head be an altercation then? So how about Horry slapping Bell with an open hand, knocked him unconscious and kicking him in the head repeatedly untill he bleeds out of his ears? That wouldn't be an altercation because no punches were thrown.
    So Bell cutting Horry's ears off and pouring gasoline on him while listening to "Stuck in the middle with you" is not altercation, because there were no punches thrown, this really enlightens me.

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    There is actually a rule about punches, so the bench rule would have mentioned punches if that was going to be the criterion.

    Sorry, you're wrong mavfan.

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    Horry started the entire sequence on a cheap-shot flagrant foul. For what it's worth, I didn't think suspending Horry for two games was necessary. He got a flagrant, he was ejected, that should've been the end of it on his end.

    What is your definition of an "altercation"? Jostling and harsh words exchanged? Because it must be for that incident to count as one.
    That was a hard playoff foul. Don't believe me? Watch any old school NBA playoff game, and this foul would have been ordinary and NOT flagrant. The only reason it is now is because of pussies who complain about the officiating and physicality of games (See: Suns players/coaches/owner and Mavs players/coaches/owner). It was not necessary, that's a no-brainer. But it wasn't worthy of an altercation.

    Bell actually tried to swing at Horry, if I'm not mistaken. Marion was right up in Horry's face, the only thing separating them was Spurs players and refs. So tell me who started the altercation again? Did you even watch the game?

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    If a punch thrown is needed, then the rule would have said a punch thrown. Would a kick in the head be an altercation then? So how about Horry slapping Bell with an open hand, knocked him unconscious and kicking him in the head repeatedly untill he bleeds out of his ears? That wouldn't be an altercation because no punches were thrown.
    So Bell cutting Horry's ears off and pouring gasoline on him while listening to "Stuck in the middle with you" is not altercation, because there were no punches thrown, this really enlightens me.
    Well obviously the NBA doesn't care about kicks to the head or the shins, because Bowen has never been suspended for it. I think Horry slapping the out of Bowen repeatedly like the scenario you describe would count as a punch, even if it isn't close-fisted.

    Reenacting a scene from a Tarantino movie doesn't really fall under the realm of the realistic, that really enlightens me.

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    Well obviously the NBA doesn't care about kicks to the head or the shins, because Bowen has never been suspended for it. I think Horry slapping the out of Bowen repeatedly like the scenario you describe would count as a punch, even if it isn't close-fisted.

    Reenacting a scene from a Tarantino movie doesn't really fall under the realm of the realistic, that really enlightens me.
    Awesome, now you're ing about Bowen, on top of a rule that didn't even effect your team. Nice job.

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    That was a hard playoff foul. Don't believe me? Watch any old school NBA playoff game, and this foul would have been ordinary and NOT flagrant. The only reason it is now is because of pussies who complain about the officiating and physicality of games (See: Suns players/coaches/owner and Mavs players/coaches/owner). It was not necessary, that's a no-brainer. But it wasn't worthy of an altercation.

    Bell actually tried to swing at Horry, if I'm not mistaken. Marion was right up in Horry's face, the only thing separating them was Spurs players and refs. So tell me who started the altercation again? Did you even watch the game?
    I agree that back in the eighties that would've been a hard playoff foul and Horry's foul wouldn't cause Bill Laimbeer to blink twice. Under the current rules, it's a flagrant. There's also no question it was a cheap shot. You can argue that Horry was frustrated that Nash was dribbling hard up the court instead of standing around waiting for the touch foul to come, but Horry initiated the sequence.

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    Awesome, now you're ing about Bowen, on top of a rule that didn't even effect your team. Nice job.
    Other poster brought up a hypothetical scenario involving kicks to the head, not me, and there is in fact an example of an NBA player kicking another player in the head. I've seen that clip over and over, and I'm honestly asking. Did Bowen ever receive any disciplinary measures for the kick to Wally's face?

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    In case you didn't read it.
    There is actually a rule about punches, so the bench rule would have mentioned punches if that was going to be the criterion.

    Sorry, you're wrong mavfan.

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