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    The front office has never been able to actively surround Duncan with any star-quality talent outside of the draft.
    So what? They have one of the best backcourts to have ever suited up for the Spurs in their history.

    Why is that?
    Small market. Unfavorable cap rules up until 1999 benefitting larger market teams. Uncertainty as to the Spurs' future in San Antonio, etc. The Spurs made a major run at Kidd in 2003, but were hurt due to the fact that the Nets could offer him a 7th guaranteed year.

    Further, who cares? They have the 3 stars they need to win championships. Why are you concerned about issues that don't matter anymore?

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    The front office has never been able to actively surround Duncan with any star-quality talent outside of the draft.

    Why is that?

    dude... you are ridiculous. 4 championships in 9 years... working on 5 in 10.

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    All I want is to shore up a couple weaknesses that I see in the frontcourt and the swingman position.

    I think the Spurs should do this now via a trade, rather than waste an excellent opportunity for another ring and miss any decent free agents this summer.

    Trades bring in talent.

    Cap flexibility does not.

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    All I want is to shore up a couple weaknesses that I see in the frontcourt and the swingman position.
    What weaknesses are those and who do you propose they bring in?

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    What weaknesses are those and who do you propose they bring in?
    I've covered this a dozen times in various threads, but I'd like a physical rebounder/shotblocker aligned next to Duncan (Diop, Ratliff, etc.) and a younger swingman who can create his own offense and pop the occasion 3 (G. Green, J. Jones, etc.)

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    I've covered this a dozen times in various threads, but I'd like a physical rebounder/shotblocker aligned next to Duncan (Diop, Ratliff, etc.)
    Dallas won't deal with the Spurs and vice-versa. Theo Ratliff has played in exactly 6 games this season, early on, and is currently valued solely because of his expiring contract.

    and a younger swingman who can create his own offense and pop the occasion 3 (G. Green, J. Jones, etc.)
    Why are the Wolves going to give the Spurs one of their younger players? Not to mention that he's by no means reliable from the field this season. Who are the Spurs going to move for an erratic prospect that is less likely to help them WIN NOW?

    Why is Portland going to move a guy like Jones? Further, why are they going to gift him to the Spurs? That's wishful thinking.

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    Oh, please.

    What has the front office done besides luck out with two #1s?

    All we do is bring in old veterans via free agency or pick up guys off waivers.

    How many other #1 picks have won a championship, let alone multiple championships. Not many. Why? Because having the number one pick is far from securing a championship TEAM. What the FO has done so well, is understand what they have, and mold a team around Duncan's strengths. They've managed to keep three superstars happy and fill the rest of the team with experienced vets who have reasonable contracts and understand what it takes to win. They've set a standard of success based upon discipline and high character players, that has gone unmatched in this era of basketball. Furthermore, they've done all of this while keeping a tight budget and respecting the salary cap. That's pretty impresive in my opinion.

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    Wowie.

    You could bring in old guys, sign waived players and throw max deals at your franchise players, Joe.

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    Wowie.

    You could bring in old guys, sign waived players and throw max deals at your franchise players, Joe.

    Oh yes, it's so simple.

    Of course, anyone can make dumb trades, like Ghost, for example.

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    Oh yes, it's so simple.

    Of course, anyone can make dumb trades, like Ghost, for example.
    What's an example of a dumb trade that I suggested?

    You mean like your idea to get K. Thomas, when he already is an expiring contract, the Sonics have a ton of picks and their hometown paper said they don't want any more?

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    What's an example of a dumb trade that I suggested?
    Theo Ratliff
    Antoine Walker

    For starters. Well wait, you never actually stated who you would trade for them.

    You mean like your idea to get K. Thomas, when he already is an expiring contract, the Sonics have a ton of picks and their hometown paper said they don't want any more?
    Yeah, my idea of Kurt Thomas, who actually addresses a need, can play, and is playoff tested. Who gives a what the media says? How many times have the Spurs told their beat writer what they were going to do before they did it?

    ing ' .

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    http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/story/281965.html

    However, it’s unlikely the Sonics will want to part with Thomas because they likely would receive young talent or draft picks in return, and Seattle already has six picks in this year’s draft. Seattle needs veteran pieces to build a nucleus for a playoff contender, and as the starting center, Thomas has provided a much-needed inside presence defensively and on the boards.

    Seattle also would like to keep Thomas because he has been a mentor for the younger players.






    You were saying.

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    so apparently the trade is still "alive"

    I would LOVE to see that trade go though and then the Mavs buy out George, he's got to be punished for his insubordination

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    http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/story/281965.html

    However, it’s unlikely the Sonics will want to part with Thomas because they likely would receive young talent or draft picks in return, and Seattle already has six picks in this year’s draft. Seattle needs veteran pieces to build a nucleus for a playoff contender, and as the starting center, Thomas has provided a much-needed inside presence defensively and on the boards.

    Seattle also would like to keep Thomas because he has been a mentor for the younger players.






    You were saying.

    Just like Pop saying last year

    "There will be no trades"

    Then the next day Erick Williams is traded for Melvin Ely.

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    http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/story/281965.html

    However, it’s unlikely the Sonics will want to part with Thomas because they likely would receive young talent or draft picks in return, and Seattle already has six picks in this year’s draft. Seattle needs veteran pieces to build a nucleus for a playoff contender, and as the starting center, Thomas has provided a much-needed inside presence defensively and on the boards.

    Seattle also would like to keep Thomas because he has been a mentor for the younger players.


    You were saying.
    That's bunk. Thomas won't be around to be a veteran presence on a playoff contender, and just because they have 6 picks in this years draft doesn't mean the wouldn't want some for future drafts.

    That's a beat writers opinion and not any indication of what Presti or the FO wants.

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    That's bunk. Thomas won't be around to be a veteran presence on a playoff contender, and just because they have 6 picks in this years draft doesn't mean the wouldn't want some for future drafts.

    That's a beat writers opinion and not any indication of what Presti or the FO wants.
    Yeah, but can that really be considered a trade?

    They don't even acknowledge that as a deal on the championship DVD.

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    Yeah, but can that really be considered a trade?

    They don't even acknowledge that as a deal on the championship DVD.

    Getting a bigman that is a starter and becomes the second best rebounder and someone that can guard Bynum and Shaq well?

    if he did that and he won, his picture would be square on the front.

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    I am in awe of GW's basketball knowledge and foresight, that Kidd trade is just what the mavs needed

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    Let me restate Kidd is a darn good player and he will do well.

    That being said, the advantages of Harris's speed, Diop's defense, and Stackhouse's scoring ability is gone.

    Way way too much of an overreaction.


    Get a Kurt Thomas.

    go to the Finals

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    Why was this bumped?

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    Haha

    That did work good going and getting a Kurt Thomas

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    I wish we got D.A. in that deal...could use some damn heart right now.

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