ESPN, Deal is close.
If the Mavericks trade Harris AND Stackhouse AND Diop, for Kidd?
The Spurs can mark one contender right off the list.
i think they're more concerned about facing the suns and the lakers right now than they are of us. i would say "flying under the radar" definitely does have its positive outcomes. although this year, spurs couldn't help it.
could we sneak in a diop-for-elson swap first before they do this?
They won't beat them either trading their best bigman defender.
Wow. Doesn't Diop play good defense on Duncan?
Stupid trade..JK is pretty irrelevant at this age. Sorry, but it's true.
Kidd-Terry-Howard-Nowitzki. Not bad. Their bench lightens up a little bit.
Still, does Kidd really bring that much to the table? That warrants giving up Harris and Stackhouse? Marginally I'd say that's a good trade for the Spurs.
T Park, I think I am beginning to understand why you post the way you do and yet people on this board celebrate you making a fool of yourself on ESPN.
You are mentally disabled, aren't you.
We're cheering on a Special Olympian.
If the Mavs add Kidd for those bit players, you are looking at the third Western conference rival getting way better, while the Spurs do nothing but get older.
The Spurs would suck at musical chairs.
Why?
Jealousy? Idiot!
A big reason IMO in 06 that Duncan and Co didn't win that game in overtime. He stalled Duncan very well in those matchups and others.
IMO this is a bad move for Dallas and a great move for New Jersey.
IMO this makes New Jersey so much better right now.
You get Harris who can set up Carter, and Jefferson. You get a solid center to defend and play well. You get a good bench player in Stackhouse, and you get solid bench guys in Ager and Devin George.
Where are all the names in your le mentioned in the article? I have seen so many different trade scenarios with this. I am so confused.
So the Mavericks trading away three matchups that the Spurs couldn't guard, for one guy that can be defended easier by Parker is a bad move?If the Mavs add Kidd for those bit players, you are looking at the third Western conference rival getting way better, while the Spurs do nothing but get older
Pick up the baton Ghost your in the special ed race kid.
The article:
Sources: Talks between Mavs, Nets heat up
By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
Jason Kidd has quietly -- and not so quietly -- hoped for a trade to the Dallas Mavericks all season.
And now Kidd has stronger-than-ever hope that the wish will be granted, according to NBA front-office sources.
Sources told ESPN.com that talks between the Mavericks and Nets, which had seemingly stalled, grew serious after the teams played Sunday night in New Jersey and have moved them to the brink of completing the NBA's third blockbuster deal of the month.
Although sources say that the teams are still sorting out final details, this deal was described as "imminent" by one source close to the process after negotiations moved to an advanced stage Tuesday night. The proposed swap -- salvaged from talks of a three-way trade with Portland that developed and fizzled quickly two weeks ago -- would require Dallas to send 24-year-old point guard Devin Harris, veteran swingman Jerry Stackhouse, the expiring contracts of center DeSegana Diop and swingman Devean George and another player such as guard Maurice Ager to New Jersey for Kidd and possibly forward Malik Allen or veteran guard Darrell Armstrong.
It's believed that Dallas would also send New Jersey cash ($3 million is the league maximum) and one or two future first-round draft choices. One source told ESPN.com that the Mavericks and Nets were also discussing a separate trade that would send Antoine Wright to Dallas for a future second-round pick.
Dallas has been widely considered the most likely winner of the Kidd trade sweepstakes, despite the repeated attempts of Mavericks owner Mark Cuban to publicly dismiss the idea of parting with multiple regulars for Kidd. Cuban told several New York-based reporters Sunday before New Jersey beat Dallas that a deal for All-Star floor leader would severely weaken his roster.
"For us to make the numbers work in a deal like that, we'd have to trade away half the team," Cuban said. "We're not doing that, so it just doesn't work. And we like our team. We've got a lot of room for improvement and we hope to get better. But right now, I just don't see anything happening.
Yet sources close to the process insist that the talks have heated up in the past 24 hours, with the Mavs still tantalized by the prospect of bringing Kidd back more than a decade after the pre-Cuban regime drafted him out of Cal, watched him share rookie of the year honors with Grant Hill in 1994-95 and then traded him to Phoenix on the day after Christmas in 1996.
The Mavs' biggest reservation, though, isn't sacrificing Harris. Sources maintain that Dallas, while reluctant to part with one of Cuban's favorite players and its point guard of the future after signing Harris to a contract extension over the summer, has been resigned for some time to losing Harris if it meant getting Kidd back.
The greater hesitation, sources said, is that they would also have to part with Stackhouse and Diop, weakening Dallas' depth. Although it's believed that Stackhouse is likely to be bought out and released by the Nets, which would enable Dallas to re-sign him if he sits out for 30 days, there's no guarantee they can convince Stackhouse to resist the interest of other teams to return once he becomes a free agent. Losing Diop, meanwhile, is an even bigger blow, as that would leave the undependable Erick Dampier as the Mavericks' only veteran center at a time when potential playoff foes like the Los Angeles Lakers (Pau Gasol) and Phoenix Suns (Shaquille O'Neal) are getting bigger.
But Dallas appears more motivated than ever in spite of those concerns and the current lack of a third team to join in and broaden the trade, believing that Kidd -- although he turns 35 in March and is threatening to establish a new career low with his 36.7 percent shooting from the field -- is still a prime source of leadership and mental toughness.
Kidd displayed those qualities in abundance during a strong summer with Team USA and those areas are well-chronicled weak spots for the Mavs, who followed up a historic collapse to Miami in the 2006 NBA Finals with a first-round flameout against Golden State after winning 67 games last season. A point guard of Kidd's caliber, influence and experience would undoubtedly please the demanding Avery Johnson, reinvigorate a team that has been lacking energy and confidence and supply Dallas' coach with a dangerous four-man core of Kidd, Josh Howard, Jason Terry and reigning MVP Dirk Nowitzki.
Nowitzki is the player Kidd has had in mind when privately telling associates in recent months that he hoped to go back to Dallas. Although his desire to leave New Jersey had been suspected all season, Kidd didn't go public with that wish until late January, when he told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher that it's time for him and New Jersey "all to move on" in separate directions.
Kidd was acquired by the Nets in the 2001 offseason in a trade with Phoenix featuring Stephon Marbury and sparked New Jersey to the most successful period in the team's NBA history, starting with back-to-back trips to the NBA Finals in 2002 and 2003. After giving strong consideration to signing with San Antonio in the summer of 2003, Kidd elected to stay with the Nets. During the past four-plus seasons, however, New Jersey has not advanced past the second round of the playoffs, despite the 2004 arrival of Vince Carter and Kidd's successful recovery from microfracture knee surgery.
The Nets were prepared to deal Kidd to the Lakers at the trade deadline last season but pulled out of the deal when the Lakers refused to part with center Andrew Bynum, who has since blossomed. This deal would give them a highly rated point guard who's 10 years younger than Kidd and three cap-friendly contracts if the Mavericks indeed include Ager.
The Nets could come away with even more salary-cap relief if the Mavericks built their trade package around Harris and a signed-and-traded Keith Van Horn. Although he has been out of the game since the end of the 2005-06 season, Van Horn hasn't filed official retirement papers with the league, allowing Dallas to retain his rights. And because Van Horn's final NBA salary was nearly $16 million, Dallas can re-sign him for a substantial amount and thus create a lucrative expiring contract for the Nets, because only the first year of a contract must be guaranteed in a sign-and-trade arrangement.
Cuban, though, told ESPN.com last week that "we won't use [Van Horn] in any deal for anyone." That's because Kidd would cost the Mavericks nearly $40 million next season, thanks to the luxury tax, if they sent only Harris, Van Horn and salary-cap filler to the Nets.
Harris, Diop AND Stackhouse????
they are completely dismantling the Mavs. That is not a good trade for them.
Did you just allege that Parker can guard Kidd?
Kidd can abuse him in the post.
You know who Kidd is, right?
What they are offering for him is crap.
Agreed hater.
Every matchup problem they created against the Spurs goes away in an instant.
Bravo New Jersey.
bad trade for Mavs
Agree a 100% with TPark here. This would be a FANTASTIC trade for the Spurs.
At this point JK is overrated. Parker will destroy him.
While this trade would help the Mavs versus every other NBA team, this would massively help the Spurs chances of beating Dallas in the playoffs. Harris guards Parker well. Diop guards Duncan well. Stackhouse and George turn into Jordan and Pippen when they play the Spurs.
Kidd is damn good but the Spurs have multiple players who can guard him .... and Kidd can't really guard anyone on the Spurs outside of Bowen.
This needs to become official.
Fast.
I for one would be happy to see Devin Harris off the Mavs. I think this trade would improve them overall, but as far as how they match up with the Spurs I feel very good about it.
imo, this doesnt improve dallas at all. harris had the quickness to give tony problems and diop played awsome d on duncan. stack always seemed to play big games versus us. now they possibly have kidd. the proposed construct of the Mavs makes me laugh, we'll kill them. i kinda like all the panic trades going on out west. the best move for us would be to get a solid 2 which may not be miller after pop voicing his displeasure about the gasol trade.
, too late.
Let me restate Kidd is a darn good player and he will do well.
That being said, the advantages of Harris's speed, Diop's defense, and Stackhouse's scoring ability is gone.
Way way too much of an overreaction.
Get a Kurt Thomas.
go to the Finals
Dang, I wish I could've posted that before TIMVP an Spurminator.
I would've looked decent
This trade looks very good
for Spurs.
make it happen plz!
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