There's a specific rule about contact above the shoulders. What's your point?
That's another thing I think the NBA screws up with - they make their rules far too arbitrary. All that does is leave room for criticism, if they make a rule iron clad and give boundaries that will be penalized if passed (and state the penalty), then there's no room for questioning. I liked the original rule - if anyone is stupid enough to step on the court - even ONE INCH - then suspend their ass. Cut and dry with no wiggle room to worry about.
Hey, if you claim to be a fan of the game and think these games should be decided by dirty, thug basketball, then yes, you are lying to yourself.
One was ruled a basketball move, one was not. That has nothing to do with this though. The whole Ewing thing was the rule in question, that was my point. Diaw's gone so you should be spending your time praying for Amare, and not here.
It wouldn't have been. if the Suns players were smart and stayed put. But they didn't they ed up.
If you think that players shouldn't be held accountable for their actions when they know full well what their actions would bring - then you're a dumb ass. I never advocated thug basketball, I said what Horry did was wrong and he should be suspended. All I'm saying is that what Amare and Diaw did was also wrong according to NBA rules, and as such they should be punished. What do you not understand about that?
If this situation was flipped the other way I guarantee every Spurs fan would be singing a different tune. Yet, my opinion would stay the same, only the dirty player should suffer consequences in this situation. Win or lose, I want to see a fair game.
It sounds like some of you are looking for an easy way out. What, are you scared now?
If this situation was flipped you'd be singing a different tune, what's your point
If this situation were reversed I'd be singing the exact same tune.
Bull . I would have the same stance. If it was a Suns player who pulled the cheap shot and Tim Duncan took a few steps on the court, I would hope the let Tim Duncan play only because I would consider any victory without him tainted by the league.
I've already gone on record and called this series tainted. It sucks that it has to go out that way but from here on out. If nobody gets suspended, people cry conspiracy. If everyone gets suspended people cry conspiracy.
Not a chance. If Tim Duncan was stupid enough to step onto the court, knowing the rules, he has to be suspended. It would be tainted if he got special treatment that other guys haven't gotten. The defense of Amare in this situation is that he's emotional and not very intelligent, a defense that Duncan would NEVER get. That's not particularly fair when you think about it.
And you're a ing bag. I ain't being a homer you dip . Horry should be suspended and Amare and Diaw should be suspended for leaving the bench. It's the rules.You are a moron...why are some Spurs fans on here such homers lol. Marion was going for the ball and hit his eye/face... happens. Horry made no play on the ball what so ever and clearly was trying to injure. Game was over and really no need to foul in the first place.
If you notice what I said "take out of context" it's because I know it was in the flow of the game, but by "taking it out of context" I can make it sound like whatever I want.
Reading comprehension.
And I for one wouldn't be. You play within the rules, you respect the rules. If you break them, for whatever reason, you still have to abide by them. If Duncan, Manu or Parker steps off the bench in an altercation they should be suspended.
Under the rules there are no homers.
Seriously, as a fan of basketball, how could someone really want to see anyone besides the player who made the dirty play suspended? It would be a severe injustice to the history of the NBA any other way. I know the Spurs players and some Spurs fans would agree with me
I don't think the series is tainted, yet. I think the NBA did the right thing by not acting on Bruce Bowen's actions from game 2 and game 3. This is a physical series, probably the 2 best teams left (Detroit has its own argument), one would have to be a fool to not expect this. I just wish their was a way for the officials/league to regulate the physicality of this series without getting someone suspended or injured.
Seriously, as a fan of civilization and not having to resort to barbary just for survival, how could someone really want any rules or laws to be completely thrown out the door just because it's going against their favored team? It would be a severe injustice to all players who were suspended for walking on the court during an altercation in the past if it goes any other way. I know any rational person who abides by the rules and regulations of our society would agree with me.
For the record, I think the NBA gives Cheap Shot Bob a game off and everyone else, including Stoudemire and Diaw, get only fines. I don't care about what has happened in the past with these types of situations, the NBA will be hammered in the media if they let a dirty play define their marque playoff series not involving the Finals.
The bottom line is that if the NBA does decide to suspend Stoudemire and Diaw all it proves is that a viable strategy to win a game is to take cheap shots and hope a star player for the other team steps a foot off the bench at some time. Sounds pretty absurd to me.
Bull , they broke the rules, and whatever happens happens, if they let this slide the next time a fight breaks out, and a player leaves the bench the minute they try t suspend them, they will cry foul that Amare got away with it. NBA can't afford to lose control like that.
look amare gets what he deserves...he started this whole "dirty" thing from the get go..and its funny how he is going to get suspended because of another stupid act on his part...suns fans can blame him for losing this series if they do lose...horry will get punished maybe 2games or one and a big fine...but amare got what he asked for...karma is a
I give up, Spurs fans telling me they would want Tim Duncan suspended if the situation was flipped is the last straw. You're too deep in the forest to see the trees.
and he was supposed to save yalls season
i agree. Spurs fans are being ridiculous.
Amare started the whole "dirty" thing when he was kicked by Bowen in the leg? You've lost me with that one. All this did was prove that some Spurs do make dirty plays. His point has been validated.
They cant just fine the player, when the rule specifically calls for a one game suspension. Fining them would be an assumption of guilt. And the rule says "when guilty suspend" Either they walk or they're gone, no gray area.
The bottom line is that if the NBA does decide to suspend Stoudemire and Diaw all it proves is that a viable strategy to win a game is to take cheap shots and hope a star player for the other team steps a foot off the bench at some time. Sounds pretty absurd to me.
Or when there is a fight, the players can just stay at the bench.
dont act like u would want the rule to live up to its saying if duncan was on the bench and walked on the court
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