I think both the Mavs-Kings would do Josh-Artest in a heartbeat for different reasons. If the Bucks want to dump salary, I can see them parting with Redd. Terry's contract is bad, but he's owed less money than Redd overall, he'd be a decent stopgap replacement at SG for Redd, and both he and Stack would be the "experienced vets" that young, losing teams would value for intangibles.
Terry has 4 years and 40 million left. Redd has 3 years and 50 million left. Stack has 2 yeras and about 8 million left, so the Bucks wouldn't really be saving much money, not enough to make the trade. Dammit!
OTOH, doing this deal gives Milwaukee more cap flexibility going forward after this year because Stack will be off the books after next year, and Terry's yearly cap # is about half of Redd's.
If we're gonna get Michael Redd, it's gotta be by trading Howard. Terry or Suckhouse won't get it done.
From what I've read, Bucks fans are salivating at the idea of trading away Redd for Howard. Every other sane mind in the basketball world realizes that it's not a very good trade for MIL. If there's any hope, it's that the Bucks front office just might be dumb enough to make that trade.
I disagree. If Howard goes to Milwaukee and plays like 2005-2006 Josh Howard then we get screwed again. Redd is somewhat of a chucker and doesn't play defense, somewhere deep down Josh is capable of being a much better player.
The Joakim Noah bust will get people off Josh for his weed comments (though not much. The dumbass still picked the wrong venue and timing to sound off.)
I actually think Carlisle will get more out of Josh than Avery did. Potheads don't like to be yelled at and ragged on. The Mavs gave Josh a bit of the dreaded "vote of confidence" after the season, but I think they mean it when they say how much he means to the team. As much of a dumbass as he may be, I think Josh bounces back from a bad season...
...just enough to be traded at the deadline.
Mavs dont have the LLE this summer, they used it last summer on Eddie Jones...The LLE can only be used on a bi-annual basis
If Josh is still on the team at the start of training camp, Mark Cuban & Donnie Nelson lose all credibility with me, and the upcoming season will be an absolute failure. Getting his sorry ass out of town should be priority #1 this offseason.
Bring in Joachim Noah to go with Josh Howard. Add Tractor Traylor and that would be one high flying team!
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Last edited by Indazone; 05-28-2008 at 08:48 AM.
ok ive been watching the playoffs and not keeping up with the mavs. what realistic chance do we have to sign what top guys on the market and do we have a chance of making a big move via trade or the draft? are the mavs considering a big move? if so for who?
I'm thinking that it's all a big waste of time to try and sign some veteran with the MLE like Najera or whomever. Eddie Najera, Kurt Thomas and so forth are not going to be the difference between this team winning and losing a series, much less winning a le.
The Mavs should concentrate their MLE efforts on finding the next Brandon Bass, that underutilized young guy languishing on somebody else's bench, since after all the team needs to get younger, more athletic and more talented. And then start shedding their contracts and clearing cap space for Kevin Durant's free agency. If that team goes to OKC, there's no way he's signing an extension with them. The OKC market is going to be a tough one for signing and retaining free agents. It immediately goes to the top of the list of bungholes that guys don't want to go to, ahead of Memphis and Sacramento.
gotta make a move and get a star veteran to go along with Dirk and Kidd. but who do we get? I know a lot of people are against it, but I think Jermaine O'Neal would be a nice option to explore, and not being the #1 option would help him tremendously. He can be used as primarily a defensive player (which he is very good at) and a clean-up player on offense (which he is also good at doing). and since he wont be relied on for a lot of offense, we wont have to worry about him shooting jumpers much or anything. plus Carlisle has coached him before, so he knows what he is capable of and how to use his strengths to the teams advantage. plus having Dirk take pressure off him, and Kidd getting him easy buckets will help a LOT. he just gotta stay healthy, but i think we could potentially get him for very cheap.
im sure a change of scenery is also something that would help him.
Elton Brand would be great too, but we would have to give up quite a bit for him...
a trade of Howard for Marion would be quite nice. or if we could find a way to get Emeka Okafor.
or perhaps Jason Richardson? getting Ben Gordon and using him like Chicago does, as a bench guy for scoing when Dirk is out? Maggette? Redd? Coby Karl?
There's only one thing this offseason that should be a "must-do"......getting Josh Howard out of here. Unfortunately everything I've read says they're leaning towards keeping him.
If Josh Howard is on this team next season they are in for another wasted year.
I've read discussion of using the MLE for Diop & CJ Miles.....I'd be all for that.
As far as getting another big piece in here, the options appear pretty limited. I don't want Jermaine O'Neal here, but I get why some think he might be rejuvenated here. Either way, I doubt we can get him. The only pieces we have are Howard or Bass. If they're willing to take on Damp or Stack's contract in addition to Howard, then maybe it works. But it's doubtful.
Do you guys have the LLE this year?
Trade exceptions?
Not that I know of, just the MLE
And this is basically the roster breakdown?
C DAMPIER/MAGLOIRE
PF NOWITZKI/BASS/HOWARD/ALLEN
SF HOWARD/GEORGE
SG TERRY/STACKHOUSE/JONES/WRIGHT
PG KIDD/LUE/BAREA
Any of them free agents?
george, lue, wright, allen, magloire, juwan howard are FAs for sure. Barea might be, I don't know off the top of my head. I hope they resign Antoine Wright. I don't know that he'll ever be a star in this league, but he was real solid for us whenever Avery took his head out of his ass and actually played him instead of the rotting corpses of Eddie Jones and Jerry Stackhouse.
According to ESPN, Barea is a restricted free agent.
Is there any interest in retaining him?
i say we keep Lue and Wright. get Diop back, unless we get Jermaine O'Neal.
I'd rather just keep Lue, or get Barea back for a trade piece.
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