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    It always amazes me how accurate KL's jumper is. The arc is so flat. But it definitely works.

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    AnTiQuateD oFFenSiVE gaME

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    Time to praise Giannis shot chart because he doesn't have the ability to shoot.

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    OP with the bads, per usual

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    midnightpulp called it in these endless debates with his fanboys and the same is likely gonna play out here....


    Kawhi-ISO won't cut it against the elite teams. He doesn't make his teammates better when the ball sticks with him and the offense doesn't have a layer of explosiveness as a result..
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    5 made 3's and 9 assists is pretty solid. Kawhi's may be a mid-range player like Durant but his ability to hit 3's in the playoffs doesn't disappear like Durant.

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    Kawhi continues his "unsustainable" playoff performance. He also had an "unsustainable" playoff performance in 2017. I wonder if will see more "unsustainable" playoff performances in the future.

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    Helmet crew trying to ownage bump . Let's look at the old shot chart:

    Yeah, he really did a lot of damage from the midrange going 2-10.



    Be prudent to read the thread before bumping and see the arguments, in which I advocate for Kawhi getting to the rim more (8 points on 100 percent shooting). His midrange game didn't win tonight.

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    Yeah, because he's a complete player that is capable of also hitting 3's. In other words his offensive game is not antiquated. His midrange game wins him some games. Tonight his 3pt shot was a big factor.

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    Kawhi continues his "unsustainable" playoff performance. He also had an "unsustainable" playoff performance in 2017. I wonder if will see more "unsustainable" playoff performances in the future.
    I called his 16-22 foot shooting percentage unsustainable. Tell me what he shot from that distance tonight? He killed it from the most efficient areas on the court tonight, which is what I was arguing for over this entire thread, that he should take less midrange shots and put those attempts toward shooting more 3s and trying to get to the rim. He still took too many midrange shots, but fortunately was on fire from 3 and made 4/5 close range attempts. You dunces are so eager to "bump" you fail to familiarize yourselves with the arguments before hand.

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    So on any given night he's capable of killing it from anywhere on the court.

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    Yeah, because he's a complete player that is capable of also hitting 3's. In other words his offensive game is not antiquated. His midrange game wins him some games. Tonight his 3pt shot was a big factor.
    His midrange has won zero games in this series. He was 2-10 in the Game 3. 2-4 in Game 4. And 2 for 10 tonight. So, if you have a player who can shoot the 3 at a high percentage, why the would you want him shooting anything from 15-22 feet?

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    His midrange has won zero games in this series. He was 2-10 in the Game 3. 2-4 in Game 4. And 2 for 10 tonight. So, if you have a player who can shoot the 3 at a high percentage, why the would you want him shooting anything from 15-22 feet?
    He has been playing hurt. I didn't say his midrange game won him games this series.

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    I believe he had his career high in assists playoffs or regular season. If he can unlock that aspect of his game he would have taken that next step. He can already get a basket any time you want but now he can directly make his teammates better with his passing.

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    Yeah, because the defense collapses on him. Even when he doesn't get the assist it often leads to a hockey assist.

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    He has been playing hurt. I didn't say his midrange game won him games this series.
    Doesn't seem like his injury affected his shooting from deep tonight .

    Kawhi is a about a 40% career 3 point shooter and about a 45% career shooter from the 10-22 foot midrange distance. To equalize his 3 point efficiency, he'd have to shoot 60% from that distance, which he never has in the regular season or playoffs. At the time I called his 16-22 foot percentage "unsustainable," he was shooting something like 65% from that distance. It's down to 55% prior to tonight, and will probably be below 50% afterwards. So why the would you want your 40 percent career 3 point shooter taking more shots from what is considered the most inefficient spots on the court, even for Kawhi?

    Sure, sometimes the 3 ball and driving lanes aren't there and you have to settle for the midrange jumper, but it's a shot that shouldn't be prioritized. Kawhi, all too often, especially with the Spurs, gets in the habit of Jordan/Kobe-ball (midrange isos and pull-ups), which Lowe called out. That it is an "antiquated" strategy in the modern game, no matter how you spin it.

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    "but but Kawhi will never match Curry/KD scoring..Mid-range is death...He doesn't make his teammates better..."

    "All nine dimes for Kawhi led to 3-pointers, so he scored or assisted on 62 points tonight. Not bad."

    https://twitter.com/MikeSGallagher/s...63891158093824

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    which Lowe called out.
    It's funny that we still mention Lowe like a basketball guru when he's mostly wrong than right on his takes.

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    "but but Kawhi will never match Curry/KD scoring..Mid-range is death...He doesn't make his teammates better..."

    "All nine dimes for Kawhi led to 3-pointers, so he scored or assisted on 62 points tonight. Not bad."

    https://twitter.com/MikeSGallagher/s...63891158093824
    Show me those midrange shooting statistics from him over the last 3 games. You Kiwi fanboys are so in' sensitive . If Kawhi isn't celebrated as the perfect player, you're just a hater! . And Kawhi still isn't the scorer Curry and Durant are.

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    It's funny that we still mention Lowe like a basketball guru when he's mostly wrong than right on his takes.
    Uh, he was in' right? Kawhi has shot 6-24 from the midrange over the past 3 wins. His midrange game isn't what is winning. And for all the criticism thrown at Kawhi's teammates for not stepping up, Lowry and Van Vleet have been great. Lowry is averaging 20 points per on a ridiculous .721 TS% over the series. That fact is conveniently overlooked as you and yours open wide for Kawhi.

    What was my entire argument in this thread? That Kawhi focusing too much on his midrange game in lieu of 3s and layups/dunks isn't a good strategy. Looks like I'm right since the Raptors aren't winning with him shooting lights out from the midrange. They're winning on the 3 ball.

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    Doesn't seem like his injury affected his shooting from deep tonight .

    Kawhi is a about a 40% career 3 point shooter and about a 45% career shooter from the 10-22 foot midrange distance. To equalize his 3 point efficiency, he'd have to shoot 60% from that distance, which he never has in the regular season or playoffs. At the time I called his 16-22 foot percentage "unsustainable," he was shooting something like 65% from that distance. It's down to 55% prior to tonight, and will probably be below 50% afterwards. So why the would you want your 40 percent career 3 point shooter taking more shots from what is considered the most inefficient spots on the court, even for Kawhi?

    Sure, sometimes the 3 ball and driving lanes aren't there and you have to settle for the midrange jumper, but it's a shot that shouldn't be prioritized. Kawhi, all too often, especially with the Spurs, gets in the habit of Jordan/Kobe-ball (midrange isos and pull-ups), which Lowe called out. That it is an "antiquated" strategy in the modern game, no matter how you spin it.
    That was just a coincidence. 2 of the 3's were step backs with Lopez putting a hand up. Maybe some of the others were spot up 3's. Like you said his midrange shot is a higher percentage. Of course the value of the 3pt shot is more.

    That's fine. I'm aware that he's very capable 3pt shooter and that has greater value than his midrange shots. The pts made on the the midrange shot isn't the only value of the shot. Making a shot at a higher percentage has value because you can set up your defense. Having the defender play you tight allows you to get more fts. It allows you to create from more areas of the court. It allows you to hit a higher percentage shot when you only need 1 or 2 pts. Also nobody said I wanted him to take more midrange shots.

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    Durant can't even shoot 3's in the playoffs when he's not on GSW.

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    "Kawhi hasn't shot the midrange well the 3 games he's been on one leg."

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