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ya beacuse he called them out....he wanted it to be rough and he got it...hes a foulaholic anywayz...and just not a smart human being
The NBA should be shut down if they break their rules to allow Amare and Diaw to play when the rules state they should be suspended. The federal governement regulates all sporting events that are portrayed as fair sporting events (this is why professional wrestling had to come clean for being fixed), and as such should levy heavy sanctions against any fair sporting league who cir vents their rules and precedents to protect two players. It cheats the game and makes the game fixed.
ya beacuse he called them out....he wanted it to be rough and he got it...hes a foulaholic anywayz...
best point of the night...just sucks to be a suns fan
At least suns fans stop saying Amare was holding people back.
Who said they would want him suspended? I said that he HAS TO BE suspended if he did that. What the Suns homers want is for the league to take Amare's history of an inability to control his emotions and a lack of understanding of situations to allow him to skate around what is a fairly clear rule. Duncan would have no such defense if he made the decision to step onto the court, and there would be no justification whatsoever for allowing him to avoid a suspension. As a Spurs fan, I'd be unhappy about it. I wasn't happy about Duncan turning the ball over or committing fouls, either.
I'm on the record saying I wish nobody could be suspended and that everyone could just play game five, but the league would have a legitimate credibibility problem if they did that.
Sorry I won't bend the rules for you. I've got a pretty extensive record on this board, and my views are relatively consistent.
...i'm done. this thread is ing stupid, most Spurs fans are acting like ing suckers. i'm with the Phoenix fans on this one.
If they get suspended, it will send a message to the rest of the league that you can win by trying to injure a key player, and/or by inciting a fight and getting the players on the other team suspended. If Stoudemire and Biaw get suspended, some of the Spurs players should be suspended too, particularly Horry since he started the whole mess.
It will be best for the game if nobody is suspended. Let us just play the game.
He also called Manu dirty after pushing him to the ground.... the league didn't even consider Amare's gripe as legit. Go on and live in your delusional world where the Spurs players have somehow become this era's ''bad boys''...
Amare is a whiner...
D'Antoni is a whiner...
I've only seen some semblance of class out of Nash.
Some common sense needs to be used in making the decision. There have been precedents of players not being suspended for leaving their bench. There is no bending of rules. It is just using a brain and common sense and a precedent.
It's true that the league worked some wiggle room into the rule after the Patrick Ewing incident. He stood up to see what was going on and had his toes over the line, if I remember correctly, and had to be suspended for "leaving the bench". They have since added the word "area" to allow for a guy to stand up, but it's been fairly clear that players are not to step on the court or to go toward the altercation.
It would be disingenuous of you to suggest that Amare was just standing up to see what was going on. If you want special treatment for your player, just admit it. I'd just as soon see him allowed to play, but that's because I want the Spurs to beat the Suns so their fans don't have any excuses for losing. I'll admit that my motivation is self-serving. Too bad some of you can't do the same.
Why the would you want the Spurs to win over a Suns team at less than full strength? If the Spurs are good enough to beat the Suns then they can advance, but I don't want this bull suspensions to happen simply to make it easier. Thats a load of and taints everything.
Diaw and Amare didn't lose their cool and to say as much is ing foolish. One player on that court lost his cool; Robert Horry.
Amare looked like he lost his cool. He was another to use a burst of steam to run out to the pull apart before the coaches stopped him.
Yep. Like I said elsewhere, I think Robert Horry just ed the entire series, win or lose. A win is hollow. A loss is a disastrous choke. It's fine with me if the NBA wants to create a new precedent and just suspend Horry, but that's probably what they have to do in order for that to happen.
Horry deserves one game. That wasn't the hardest foul I've ever seen and the post foul stuff was mostly on Raja.
So has we won last years WCSF, it would have been hollow because Terry was suspended?
GTFOOH.
Actually, the post foul stuff entailed Bell running towards Horry (who knows what he was saying) but Horry was the one who also instigated that by trying to throw an elbow at Raja's chest (or maybe his face, it was hard to say).
The fact that Horry cheapshotted 2 Suns on back 2 back plays shows who the true villain was in the incident, regardless of what actions the NBA takes. Horry just went ape . Not only showing zero remorse for an obvious cheapshot, but then to try to cheapshot another Sun player.
Horry can't seriously expect that he will be allowed to body check Nash into the scorer's table and not have a Sun or more in his face right afterwards.
I believe Horry threw a forearm to Raja's face.Horry was the one who also instigated that by trying to throw an elbow at Raja's chest (or maybe his face, it was hard to say).
WTF was Raja going to do while in his face? Spew bad breath and make HOrry regret the foul? Give me a ing break. Running at someone and getting in their face is an aggressive instigative action.
It's the playoffs. Don't suspend anyone.
I'm still flabbergasted (yes, I said, "flabbergasted") by Horry's foul...wtf was going through his head??? seriously...
I really can't believe that he would do such an "unclutch" thing...but he did...the only explanation is he knew he would get people suspended...no....it was bonehead move...but Big Shot Rob?? ahhh...
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That's the way it looked. But to some homers, Bell instigated it. LOL!
Horry's lucky he only had one Suns player and not the entire team and coaching staff in his grill after that de able play of filth.
Didn't Nash also run at Horry? Right after he got up....???
Yes, Nash did. He got in Horry's face. And I dont think anyone, even a diehard Spurs fan, can blame for him doing so.
After trying to get a hit on him and ending up only with a grab of his jersey...
You don't see Parker or Ginobili going after people even after having been subjected to hard fouls.... And Ginobili's been on the receiving of many sucker punches.
If I were Stu this would be my verdict:
Horry: 2-Game Suspension and $10,000 fine for the forearm to Bell's neck.
Diaw: 1-Game Suspension (he should know better than to go running on to the court towards the 'altercation')
Amare: 1-Game Suspension (same as Diaw - he should really really know better - c'mon guys these guys know the rules, and are expected to follow them - i.e. no Spurs player left the bench)
Raja: No Suspension - Flagrant point assessed.
Nash: No Suspension - Flagrant point assessed.
Do I condone Horry's actions? Heavens no! I didn't expect him to mar the game this way. Did the Suns players overeact however? Yes, they certainly did - they should have let the league take care of Horry and stay out of trouble. Unfortunately, what was started by Horry can hurt the Suns even more because the Suns players lost their cool as well.
They will be ready to play and don't forget they won 54 games without Amare last year and the way Nash has stepped up i wouldn't be surprised to see suns get the win.
So if amare is suspended it is by no means a lock for the spurs to win.
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