Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[DPG21920]

R.C. encouraged my thinking that they weren't too big on the idea of a trade, but I'm sure they are listening. If it's going to happen it would make sense to do it sooner than later. If a trade doesn't happen in the coming weeks I'll be expecting Kawhi to get ready for training camp.

How was the draft night experience and what do you think of our picks/new guys?

Draft night was amazing, thanks. I wanted Lonnie so for me personally I was thrilled. Best part the draft like usual was Knicks fans getting upset . “We want Porter” chants only to have NY take Knox (whom I like). They were pissed!

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Boston has to include Tatum if I'm the GM of the Spurs.

I tell Boston I want Irving 2draft picks and Tatum if not hang up phone
Tell Leonard to man up and go to camp
Leonard play bad hurts his value
And tell Leonard manu and tp both start with him
David Robinson and Bowen are coming back to start with him also

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Cap space for what? They couldn't appeal to superstars and stars at their peak, so they damn sure won't now. Also, the roster would be mostly set (they'd just need to re-sign their own free agents). They'd have flexibility going forward.

Fultz and Covington combined will make about what Leonard will next season, then significantly less than he'd have gotten had he signed the super max. If they dumped Mills and bought out/stretched Bayless, they'd come out ahead.

Only in the NBA, can a 19 year old be written off after 1 season, having played a whopping 253 minutes over 14 games.

To be clear, I don't think people are writing him off--I am certainly not. What I am doing, however, is starting i don't think he's worth the risk. Especially given the Spurs tenuous season and potential to have this thing unravel on us in any number of ways. If he comes over and it turns into a psychological roller coaster, that just might be the thing that officially ends the Spurs run. Although at present, I think we might have already had the death blow from Kawhi, that lousy asshat.

[SpursDynasty85]

It's not just the games. Supermax must come with more responsibilities. Including being with the team, a leader, doing nba cares events, basketball camps, being an ambassador for the community of SA, being in a photo with someone's daughter.

I agree. Super Max are for legacy players like a Duncan or Robinson. I love Kawhi but I trust the Spurs will find a better way to use 45M/yr.

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Screw that. Get rid of his ass. He got paid $19m to play and didn't. He's a thief. He let his team down. A PO team no less, HIS team. The guys fought hard all year to make the POs and he let them down. GS was vulnerable this year. With LMA balling, this could have been the last best chance for Pop and the remaining Big3. that guy.

To be quite ing honest.

Edit: It's like people are forgetting Kawhi made a recently widowed Pop fly all over the country to come to him. ing disrespectful and completely wrong for the guy who nurtured your career.

[spurs10]

Draft night was amazing, thanks. I wanted Lonnie so for me personally I was thrilled. Best part the draft like usual was Knicks fans getting upset . “We want Porter” chants only to have NY take Knox (whom I like). They were pissed!

That's great! I didn't have a lot of knowledge about the players, but I'm loving what I'm hearing about Lonnie Walker! Glad it was a cool experience, I always love my visits to NYC and Brooklyn no matter what I'm doing.

[tbdog]

As I said before best use of any cap space they can free up for the next couple of years is to take on bad salaries for high picks and promising young players unless Spur fan is content with teams gunning for 6th, 7th, 8th seed and first round exits for the foreseeable future

Yes. Making he playoffs is still an effort worthy to achieve. You either tank to achieve the best possible pick, hope it's a generational player, and take years to build up, have luck to succeed. And still may end up with nothing like the Thunder. If you go half ass, you're in no man's land. Promote losing team mentality, and treadmill your way and still miss the playoffs, then make desperate attempts to overpay overrated players hoping they breakout. Like the suns for years or knicks.

Or you create a winning culture, reward effort and loyalty, and try get to the wcsf. And you never know if you get a dirk run.

[NASpurs]

And suddenly, a new challenger has arrived.

[lmbebo]

Boston has to include Tatum if I'm the GM of the Spurs.

word is that Boston is making him untouchable ... he's the center piece of any Boston deal for myself.

[rastaspur]

And suddenly, a new challenger has arrived.

That came out of left field. Almost like the squirrel master laying claim to kenny before nasty nate could.

But seriously, what do the magic have to offer. Inless they are pulling a kevin costner and giving us their draf5 picks for the next three years how could a deal be worked out? Biyombo at 17 mil per year. Same for fournier. Vujecic and gordon are expiring deals.

[Mr. Body]

I've seen Orlando a lot today but it's all from this dumb tweet.

[Ron Swanson]

Simmons is coming back!

[baseline bum]

word is that Boston is making him untouchable ... he's the center piece of any Boston deal for myself.

Good for them. Then send Kawhi to Philly and let them ruin Ainge's entire rebuild. Reaching Game 7 of the ECF against the Cavs can be their high water mark for the Brad Stevens era.

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That came out of left field. Almost like the squirrel master laying claim to kenny before nasty nate could.

But seriously, what do the magic have to offer. Inless they are pulling a kevin costner and giving us their draf5 picks for the next three years how could a deal be worked out? Biyombo at 17 mil per year. Same for fournier. Vujecic and gordon are expiring deals.

Puzzling.

[Mr. Body]

I don't see Boston dealing Tatum OR Gordon Hayward. Don't see them trading Hayward one year after signing him and after that terrible injury. Plus he's Boston's beloved white guy.

[cjw]

Harden wasn't a Supermax decision. He was traded, LITERALLY, over just a few million dollars over the life of the potential contract. If that were the case in SA, I'd be leading the charge against SSE headquarters. OKC's owner mandated that they never pay the tax, they kept Ibaka, and let Harden slip away. Just overall bad management and decision making. They then paid the tax for B level players PG and Melo. WTF?

People forget that they broke up a finals core over $8 million when they had easier moves to make like stretching Perkins or moving a pick to someone to take him on. He wanted 4/$60 and they offered 4/$52.

Possibly the biggest folly in the NBA in recent memory.

Everyone should be glad the Spurs’ FO didn’t pull that.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I don't see teams offering more later on than would right now.

[Marcus Bryant]

Good for them. Then send Kawhi to Philly and let them ruin Ainge's entire rebuild. Reaching Game 7 of the ECF against the Cavs can be their high water mark for the Brad Stevens era.

Yes. Also Philly likely would want to acquire Leonard before free agency for its run at James.

[baseline bum]

I don't see Boston dealing Tatum OR Gordon Hayward. Don't see them trading Hayward one year after signing him and after that terrible injury. Plus he's Boston's beloved white guy.

Then hand the conference to Philly.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

If the Spurs really balked at offering a supermax before all this injury crap then I absolutely support Kawhi in wanting out. Not the crap he's pulled since if that was really the case but for sure wanting out.

After the absolute bull contracts they gave out to Pau, Patty, and Porky previously, cheaping out on Leonard would have been an absolute slap in the face tbh.

100% spot on. Spurs were an absolute embarrassment last offseason.

[Marcus Bryant]

I wonder if this is all posturing. Reportedly, Kawhi's camp was anticipating the Supermax. Then it came out the Spurs would have to be convinced to give it to him. Then the KL group countered with the trade demand. Instead of normal negotiations, this has been done in the media through leaks. It would not surprise me if the supermax is offered around July 1, then suddenly everyone are friends again. Could be very wrong, of course.

You would think that, but why the dumb drama about the injury diagnosis, which as of now hasn't required actual surgery.

Whatever conversations that there have been about the supermax have been going on for some time.

[DPG21920]

That came out of left field. Almost like the squirrel master laying claim to kenny before nasty nate could.

But seriously, what do the magic have to offer. Inless they are pulling a kevin costner and giving us their draf5 picks for the next three years how could a deal be worked out? Biyombo at 17 mil per year. Same for fournier. Vujecic and gordon are expiring deals.

Mo Bamba + Isaac but I wouldn’t want anything else.

[Marcus Bryant]

Ainge expects to assrape other teams in trades. Those odds above should be flipped with Philly the favorite.

[Mr. Body]

Then hand the conference to Philly.

It doesn't make sense to trade for Kawhi without moving Tatum or Hayward. How many starting SFs do they need? They have a glut of players.

[DPG21920]

Ainge expects to assrape other teams in trades. Those odds above should be flipped with Philly the favorite.

Except for when he tried to trade a ton of picks for Winslow amazing how when someone gets saved from themselves how the narrative can change.