Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[BatManu20]

In other news... first trade of the offseason. Jerry West cleaning house. Signals DeAndre Jordan probably being traded too.

[toki9]

In other news... first trade of the offseason

Guess Doc will be sleeping on the couch for a while, thanks to the Logo.

[NASpurs]

Jerry West's like " your dumbass son" savage

[bdictjames]

In other news... first trade of the offseason

I guess the Wiz are unloading their team. Who's gonna be their starting center?

[NASpurs]

As for the Wizards, they're just making room to trade Kawhi for Beal.

[HarlemHeat37]

Gortat isn't even close to a starter anymore, anyways..poor Bobi, though

Rivers with Washington is a weird fit..they needed another guard, but still..

[Dverde]

God Jaylen Brown is so overrated. Dude has a player efficiency rating like one point above Parker and mother ers here want to act like he's the guy you rebuild the franchise around.

I think he’s good, solid NBA player. I can’t see Boston doing a deal for him. Ainge ain’t desperate enough for that.

[Spurs da champs]

Gortat isn't even close to a starter anymore, anyways..poor Bobi, though

Rivers with Washington is a weird fit..they needed another guard, but still..

He and Wall are going to clash for sure.

[weebo]

I don’t even want to imagine what the nba world will do if Kawhi stays with SA . I mean, I will be happy that our team will be very good, but if all this was just some crazy out of control posturing for a large contract??

This would be one of the nastiest, dirtiest and all time bat sh*t crazy negotiations I can remember in the nba. I am mega pissed at Kawhi and while I will obviously be happy for SA I will forever look at him as a person differently. I will still root for him/the team but man it will be like being in a marriage with someone who not just cheated on you but cheated with your biggest rival

If he stayed and did well, I would never rain praise on him. If he sucked, I would trash him for sucking so bad.

[NASpurs]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...ef_around_the/

Found this thread on reddit interesting. Says that Shelburne is saying that Cousins wants to go to the Lakers. I’m assuming that the Lakers would be out of the Kawhi running especially if they sign Bron + PG while trading for Cousins.

[Leetonidas]

Cousins is damaged goods. No one has ever really came back the same after an Achilles injury. I hope the Lakers max his ass

[Mr. Body]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...ef_around_the/

Found this thread on reddit interesting. Says that Shelburne is saying that Cousins wants to go to the Lakers. I’m assuming that the Lakers would be out of the Kawhi running especially if they sign Bron + PG while trading for Cousins.

Lakers and ESPN collectively panicking.

Cousins to LA would be awesome. Guarantee another five years of outright mediocrity.

[Morgo]

Well Washington just traded their starting Center so maybe they are in play for Boogie?

[NASpurs]

Well Washington just traded their starting Center so maybe they are in play for Boogie?

[BillMc]

He simultaneously cares and does not care about the money. Open the box and see what happens! He’s Schrodinger’s Mute.

[objective]

Noel with Wall would make a lot of sense

[Mr. Body]

Noel with Wall would make a lot of sense

Wall is almost the only Kentucky guy to improve and make strides in his NBA career. The rest plateaued or stagnated.

[gambit1990]

Jerry West cleaning house. Signals DeAndre Jordan probably being traded too.

mavs should trade wesley matthews for deandre. it works straight up.

luka could get him easy buckets.

[CGD]

Wall is almost the only Kentucky guy to improve and make strides in his NBA career. The rest plateaued or stagnated.

Uh, Anthony Davis?

[cd021]

If it eventually comes to a trade and the Celtics play hardball with Brown, I probably would, too. Spurs would obviously have to do their due diligence first, but they should be able to get good intel from Brett Brown.

I'd prefer to wait until October 17th, though. That not only provides time to exhaust the reconciliation/super max extension possibility with Leonard, but preseason to gauge Fultz in game.

Think the 76ers offer will be Fultz, Covington, Heat unprotected '21 1st, Spurs option of swapping Mills-Bayless and choice of 2 minor pieces (Anderson, Luwawu-Cabarrot, Bolden, Pasecniks, 2nds). I believe the impetus of the Bridges-Smith swap, was so that the Heat pick could serve as one of the linchpins of their package instead of either Saric or Smith.

Murray could be offered to the Magic for 2 2nds. They have 4 in '19, 2 of which should be in the 30s.

Starters: Gay, Covington, Aldridge, Green, Fultz
Bench: Gasol, Parker, Anderson, White, Bertans, Walker
Deep bench: Milutinov, Forbes, 1 or 2 of 76ers "minor pieces"

Should keep Spurs in contention for playoffs short term, while simultaneously accelerating a re-build, which would probably be their goal.

I had the same thoughts regarding the Bridges for Zhaire Smith trade but apparently the Sun's were the aggressors on that deal and when they offered the Miami pick and Smith for Bridges, Philly accepted.

That pick could be really good, and as Nate Duncan mentioned, it could be an especially deep draft because it could be the last year of the 1 and done and the first year that prep to pro players are allowed to be drafted.

I would prefer for Murray and Fultz to play together; they'd be a good fit, in theory, Fultz is apparently a bad defender but an excellent shooter (if he ever regains his form) while Murray is an great defender who currently can't shoot. For the "Murray isn't a PG" crew, he'd be sharing playmaking responsibilities with Fultz in a theoretically backcourt.

Fultz, Covington, Miami' unprotected 2021 first rounder, Parsecniks, Anderson, and Bayless. for Kawhi and Mills.

-That is a solid haul, though the Spurs would probably be only be about as good as they were last year and that 2021 pick is three years away and there is a non zero chance that the Spurs might move that pick to move up in a draft of the really like a player.

The 76ers have a slew of seconds that probably mean little to them so I would at least ask for the 2019 Kings and/or Knicks second's (both probably in the 33-38 range) that they own, though, that might be a little too much.

PG-Fultz, Parker
SG-Murray, Manu?, White, Walker, Bayless*,
SF-Covington, Green, J. Anderson
PF- K. Anderson, Bertans
C-Aldridge Gasol, Militinov?, Metu?*,

*If roster spots would be an issue, Bayless could just be waived, his $8 million only goes through next year.

*Metu could sign directly with Austin, be a on a two-way deal, or sign with the big club in a 3 or 4 year deal.

If PG-13 stays in OKC then there could be a ripple effect; LeBron possibly crosses L.A off his list and only considers Cleveland and Philly, of he goes to Philly then all of a sudden Boston may become more aggressive in going after Kawhi.

Hayward, Brown and the Kings pick (I think there is a decent chance that that is a top five pick) for Kawhi and Gasol would be a very great deal.

PG-Murray, Parker,
SG-Brown, Manu? Mills, White, Walker,
SF- Hayward, Green
PF-Anderson, Bertans
C-Aldridge, FA-C, Militinov? Metu?

That trade would allow for the Spurs to be a 50 win team, probably for the next couple of seasons, leading up to the summer of 2020 when LMA hits free agency and Brown and Murray hit RFA.

[spurs1990]

If PG-13 stays in OKC then there could be a ripple effect; LeBron possibly crosses L.A off his list and only considers Cleveland and Philly, of he goes to Philly then all of a sudden Boston may become more aggressive in going after Kawhi.

Hayward, Brown and the Kings pick (I think there is a decent chance that that is a top five pick) for Kawhi and Gasol would be a very great deal.

PG-Murray, Parker,
SG-Brown, Manu? Mills, White, Walker,
SF- Hayward, Green
PF-Anderson, Bertans
C-Aldridge, FA-C, Militinov? Metu?

That trade would allow for the Spurs to be a 50 win team, probably for the next couple of seasons, leading up to the summer of 2020 when LMA hits free agency and Brown and Murray hit RFA.

Great info cd021 as always. Damn good read.

I’m not wanting to touch Fultz with a ten foot pole. I think he’s a very very poor man’s Antonio Daniels circa 1998 when Vancouver dropped him to the Spurs. Though if Ingram nor Brown can be had then this philly package is the play.

But adding Hayward and Brown to last years 47 win roster along with an improved Murray, Bertrans, more confident Anderson, and first year spark of Walker.... I love that rosters chances of getting to the second round.

Really hoping James signs with philly now....

[lmbebo]

Left coast live felt James was LA bound. Some annoucement to coincide with space jam 2 or some crap ...

[SpursDynasty85]

Pretty sure PG is going to LA from Magic's comments. Lebron and Kawhi I think are somewhat tied. They're not set on playing together but would work towards it if it makes sense. Spurs holding out was the right thing to do. Hopefully Kawhi and his camp play ball and/or make amends. I would hate to see Kawhi get booed at the AT&T Center after having such a great first half of his career here so far.

[Wu36]

Wall is almost the only Kentucky guy to improve and make strides in his NBA career. The rest plateaued or stagnated.

Booker seems to be doing ok.

[SpursBills]

I had the same thoughts regarding the Bridges for Zhaire Smith trade but apparently the Sun's were the aggressors on that deal and when they offered the Miami pick and Smith for Bridges, Philly accepted.

That pick could be really good, and as Nate Duncan mentioned, it could be an especially deep draft because it could be the last year of the 1 and done and the first year that prep to pro players are allowed to be drafted.

I would prefer for Murray and Fultz to play together; they'd be a good fit, in theory, Fultz is apparently a bad defender but an excellent shooter (if he ever regains his form) while Murray is an great defender who currently can't shoot. For the "Murray isn't a PG" crew, he'd be sharing playmaking responsibilities with Fultz in a theoretically backcourt.

Fultz, Covington, Miami' unprotected 2021 first rounder, Parsecniks, Anderson, and Bayless. for Kawhi and Mills.

-That is a solid haul, though the Spurs would probably be only be about as good as they were last year and that 2021 pick is three years away and there is a non zero chance that the Spurs might move that pick to move up in a draft of the really like a player.

The 76ers have a slew of seconds that probably mean little to them so I would at least ask for the 2019 Kings and/or Knicks second's (both probably in the 33-38 range) that they own, though, that might be a little too much.

PG-Fultz, Parker
SG-Murray, Manu?, White, Walker, Bayless*,
SF-Covington, Green, J. Anderson
PF- K. Anderson, Bertans
C-Aldridge Gasol, Militinov?, Metu?*,

*If roster spots would be an issue, Bayless could just be waived, his $8 million only goes through next year.

*Metu could sign directly with Austin, be a on a two-way deal, or sign with the big club in a 3 or 4 year deal.

If PG-13 stays in OKC then there could be a ripple effect; LeBron possibly crosses L.A off his list and only considers Cleveland and Philly, of he goes to Philly then all of a sudden Boston may become more aggressive in going after Kawhi.

Hayward, Brown and the Kings pick (I think there is a decent chance that that is a top five pick) for Kawhi and Gasol would be a very great deal.

PG-Murray, Parker,
SG-Brown, Manu? Mills, White, Walker,
SF- Hayward, Green
PF-Anderson, Bertans
C-Aldridge, FA-C, Militinov? Metu?

That trade would allow for the Spurs to be a 50 win team, probably for the next couple of seasons, leading up to the summer of 2020 when LMA hits free agency and Brown and Murray hit RFA.

Even if Boston refuses to include Hayward (pretty likely as he's locked into a long term contract and chose Boston as a free agent), I'd probably be willing to accept Kyrie only to shuttle him to a third team (Knicks come to mind) for an expiring and multiple draft picks (like 3 1st rounders)

Something like:
Spurs get: Jaylen Brown, Enes Kanter (expiring), Kings 2019 pick, Knicks 2019, 2021, 2023 1st rounder
Celtics get: Kawhi
Knicks get: Irving

Celtics get to form a superteam. Knicks get a perimeter star to pair with Porzingas. Spurs get a talented wing, a top 5 pick next year, and 3 additional first rounders in the next few years to reload. I'm not sold on Kyrie and Porzingas' ability to stay healthy so those picks may end up being very good.