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    The workers aren't moving, just the suits. Fail.
    Yet.

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    There are plenty of skilled workers here in SA to fill those jobs. BS excuse.

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    This company never had roots here. They moved from StL because Whitacre had a tiff with his country club membership. Apparently, they're all about capricious CEOs. Dallas had better not get too comfy having them there. I think calling them techno-carpetbaggers is probably too kind.
    This is a textbook example of sour grapes.

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    This is a textbook example of sour grapes.
    Yep. San Antonio is what it is. San Antonio.

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    This is a textbook example of sour grapes.
    Sour grapes? More like "the truth hurts". They do seem to move whenever the mood strikes their current CEO. I'd say that qualifies them for a carpetbagger tag.

    As for the other jobs, I think that even if they don't move, they're in jeopardy. True old school landline phones are going the way of the dodo. If people have a home phone at all, chances are it's VoIP. Many are doing away with it altogether. Their premium TV packages are rolling out slowly, and they are like 30 years behind cable in infrastructure penetration. Almost every home and apartment is already wired for cable.

    They'd better hope their wireless keeps them afloat. Fortunately for SA, we have a nice homegrown outfit called Rackspace rolling out about 5000 tech jobs @ $56,000 apiece to absorb the AT&T slack. Give me the growing company over the dinosaur, anyday.

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    Rackspace is a fantastic company.

    After seeing how well they ran things at the old mall on I35 during the Katrina relief efforts (I was a volunteer there), they're certainly equipped with good leaders at the mid -manager level.

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    Sour grapes? More like "the truth hurts". They do seem to move whenever the mood strikes their current CEO. I'd say that qualifies them for a carpetbagger tag.

    As for the other jobs, I think that even if they don't move, they're in jeopardy. True old school landline phones are going the way of the dodo. If people have a home phone at all, chances are it's VoIP. Many are doing away with it altogether. Their premium TV packages are rolling out slowly, and they are like 30 years behind cable in infrastructure penetration. Almost every home and apartment is already wired for cable.

    They'd better hope their wireless keeps them afloat. Fortunately for SA, we have a nice homegrown outfit called Rackspace rolling out about 5000 tech jobs @ $56,000 apiece to absorb the AT&T slack. Give me the growing company over the dinosaur, anyday.
    Ahhhhhh, hate to break it to you, but landline, whether copper or fiber optic is still landline. And without it, you don't got that internet for VOIP.
    ATT is a long, long way from being extinct.
    ATT will make the transition to fiber over time or some other technology. Dinosaurs they aren't.
    In my lifetime I have seen communications technology going from the almost nothing to something out of star wars. And we aint seen anything yet.

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    Ahhhhhh, hate to break it to you, but landline, whether copper or fiber optic is still landline. And without it, you don't got that internet for VOIP.
    ATT is a long, long way from being extinct.
    ATT will make the transition to fiber over time or some other technology. Dinosaurs they aren't.
    In my lifetime I have seen communications technology going from the almost nothing to something out of star wars. And we aint seen anything yet.
    The fact is, with the typical household, you have two things wired into or up to your house: a land phone line and RF cable line or lines. You can push phone and internet and TV over a land phone line, you just can't push as much. To take the next step will require a WHOLE new level of bandwidth, and on that infrastructure, they are way behind cable. I never said AT&T was extinct, but I do think they're in for stormy weather. When a company is huge, like an AT&T or a Microsoft, they tend to be inertia bound, and not react well to changes in their environment or market. Microsoft has a ton of cash, but they're losing the internet battle because they still think the fight is on the desktop. If they don't pull off the Y! aquistion, I think they're going to be in real trouble in 5-10 years. You may even see PC manufacturers start laying down systems with Lindows or other GUI Linux platform on it, maybe with Open Office loaded for the oldtimers to edit do ents with. The kids today just want a browser to hit the internet. Everything they need is there, on their cell phone, or on their gaming platform of choice.

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    In my opinion, it's more about market saturation. When you're the biggest dog on the block and are essentially "THE" brand or company in your category...then it's tough to grow the business.

    What stockholder wants to buy a share of XYZ Company for $35 and sell it for $35 three years later?

    Only a fool would want that.

    Stockholders want to see growth. How do you grow the business when you own the marketplace? It's pretty darned tough.

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