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Does this mean that the Spurs' arena gets renamed again?
ATT announces move from SA to Dallas...cites airport as one of the reasons for the move.
ATT press releaseWith customers and operations in all 50 U.S. states and 160 countries, air travel to and from Dallas will be more convenient, time efficient and cost effective. The DFW airport is the third largest in the U.S. and one of the top six in the world, offering daily nonstop service to 35 international and 133 U.S. destinations. Additionally, Dallas enjoys a second major airport; Love Field — the 50th largest U.S. airport — offers more than 160 nonstop flights daily.
Air travel to/from SA is awful...and here's an example it costing the city jobs.
Does this mean that the Spurs' arena gets renamed again?
Not until the current deal runs out - and even then, who's going to have enough cash to do that? The economy here is starting to tank in the same way the rest of the country has already tanked.
that would be a laugh riot in the political forum
Well that's better than energy solutions.
Seriously?
The airport?
AT&T can't do business over the phone?
Sure...not all business can be done over the phone. The SA airport is a terrible airport for a town that believes itself to be a major city. It shouldn't even be where it is - it would be better located on the south or west sides of town in either a greenfield site or a former military base (Kelly? Brooks?).
But nope, we're pumping cash into an airport that has already become too small. Add to that the fact that, although you can go anywhere from the SA airport, that "anywhere" will include a connecting flight and layover.
Time is money...and layovers are a waste of time.
Realistically, It was only a matter of time before San Antonio started feeling the effects of the weakened economy anyway...all those people from California, Florida and other coastal cities can't sell their homes and walk away with a tidy profit like they used too and dump that cash into cheaper, larger homes in San Antonio...also, the engine that once drove San Antonio's economy has stalled.....health care rates have remained relatively flat for the last 2 years while costs keep rising...
It's the phone company.
It's a communications company. They offer TV, broadband internet, etc.
700 jobs are 700 not cubicle bots. That's lot of top salaries leaving town.
How many private corporate jets does ATT fly out of SA? Execs are often "forced" to fly private jet "for their own security".
It's not about security, it's about time consumed...and there are not that many private jets departing SA carrying ATT management staff. A few, yes, but not that many. Regardless of that, it's not just about the time burned by the "senior executive vp of yadayada" - it's also about the time burned by anyone in the organization. You can fly from SA to just about anywhere in five hours if it's direct. But most of the time you can't do that. You have to fly three hours from SA to somewhere, do a 90+ minute layover (at a minimum) and then fly three more hours to get to the next stop.
Delays impact your travel time dramatically with connecting flights - the more connections, the higher the risk of delay. It's all about cost - and until we have a real airport with decent flight selections, we're going to keep seeing this thing happening.
I have to wonder too, if ATT doesn't get tired of the same old politicians coming to them with their hands out for this and that cause. I saw where Hardberger and the movers and shakers said they had met with them last Tuesday and no inkling of the move was mentioned. I would bet that the subject of money for term limits came up. Might have been the straw that broke the camels back.
But the Air connections here in San Antonio do suck. And to top it off try getting into and out the blasted airport for all the construction. It reminds me of 410, I have travelled 410 since the 60's and the North side has been torn up almost continually in all that time. No wonder we have traffice congestion, they never get the blasted thing open completely.
Anyhow, there will be no hope for better air connections in the near future. Airlines are cutting back not ramping up flights. SA ought to just get one of the majors to put a hub in. Austin is going to outdo San Antonio soon in that departments. Have any of you been up there lately to their airport. Makes ours look sick.
We're expanding our airport big time. It'll be very compe ive. Everything else you said is dead on though.
"real airport"
won't change much.
As a direct result of airline deregulation, the airlines did what is best for them, the customers, which is strategic hub-spoke routing, while killing off service to smaller aiports. Deregulation of the airlines has been a huge success story for the airlines and for their customers.
A bigger SA airport will not turn SA into a major hub in comparison with DFW or HOU, so most SA travellers will still be faced with travelling first to DFW or HOU. This will probably get worse as the airlines kill more flights and cities served in response to high priced oil this year and next.
ATT is moving to DFW area simply because it's an AA and Southwest hub, eliminating their SA-DFW hop. From DFW, only one hop to Chicago or New York.
Plus, as the top 700 ATT run ATT primarily for their own benefit and enrichment, they probably figure Dallas metro offers them much more personally than SA.
Last edited by boutons_; 06-28-2008 at 04:49 PM.
Exactly.
You know boutons, sometimes, you really do make such stupid statements. "F@@@ the customer". Now that really makes sense. Who pays the freight? Sure isn't anyone but the customer that I know of. Of course you live in the world of the European. Subsidies! You know where the employers subsidize their employees by giving them a transportation allowance. You are such a dumbass."real airport"
won't change much.
As a direct result of airline deregulation, the airlines did what is best for them, the customers, which is strategic hub-spoke routing, while killing off service to smaller aiports. Deregulation of the airlines has been a huge success story for the airlines and for their customers.
A bigger SA airport will not turn SA into a major hub in comparison with DFW or HOU, so most SA travellers will still be faced with travelling first to DFW or HOU. This will probably get worse as the airlines kill more flights and cities served in response to high priced oil this year and next.
ATT is moving to DFW area simply because it's an AA and Southwest hub, eliminating their SA-DFW hop. One hop to Chicago or New York.
Plus, as the top 700 ATT run ATT primarily for their own benefit and enrichment, they probably figure Dallas metro offers them much more personally than SA.
It was a bad call for SA to say the least.
Castillo with other bad points:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/met...N.3fecb00.html
No way to spin it, when a city loses a Fortune 10 HQ, it hurts.
I wonder if Valero or Clear Channel will follow suit?
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner! I moved to Arlington earlier this year, and when I saw the story in the Dallas newspaper, I was shocked. My first thought was, wow, that's gonna suck for San Antonio! So, while people here are happy and excited, I was saddened because I lived in San Antonio for almost 16 years. But the leaders of San Antonio have got to wake up. With the high school drop out rate being so high, and the ever increasing numbers of people who speak little or no english, major employers like AT&T are having trouble finding skilled workers to fill the needed positions.Plus, as the top 700 ATT run ATT primarily for their own benefit and enrichment, they probably figure Dallas metro offers them much more personally than SA.
Think who runs the phones.
The workers aren't moving, just the suits. Fail.
This company never had roots here. They moved from StL because Whitacre had a tiff with his country club membership. Apparently, they're all about capricious CEOs. Dallas had better not get too comfy having them there. I think calling them techno-carpetbaggers is probably too kind.
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