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    I'd vote YES for the funding as well. We need a ACCD location out in the NE area.

    But to try to screw the inner city people was just wrong.

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    Screwing them would be saying that there would be no school built and the program ended to save money.

    Those that really want education can go seek it.

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    to me, building a nursing school near the medical center makes sense.... building it in a poor, crime neighborhood doesn't make sense at all...
    Well, calling it a poor, crime neighborhood doesn't make much sense either.
    There is crime on the Northside as well.

    Also the ACCD said that personnel from the Medical Center complex are needed to teach courses in the health program, and if they can't make the short commute to campus, their services will not be available.
    But it seems to me that that many highly qualified health science professionals already work and teach within about 5 miles of downtown.

    Such as: UTSA Downtown campus, SAC and St. Phillip's medical facilites, NIX Hospital, Santa Rosa Hospital, Baptist Downtown Hospital, Metropolitan Methodist Hospital, Brooke Army Medical Center, Brady Green Clinic, Academy of Health Sciences and the U.S. Army medical school at Fort Sam Houston.

    But I do want a new NE Campus on 1604.

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    I still think the campus should be built in the medical center. I also believe more facilities should be built in the NE side of town.

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    But can I get a "I hear ya" about medical professionals already being available in the downtown area?

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    Of course there are. But can I get a "I hear ya" about where the center of the medical community is?

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    Of course there are. But can I get a "I hear ya" about where the center of the medical community is?
    Depends on what part of the medical community you're talking about.

    The service kind (nurses, medical assistants, etc) are the kind that are taught at those campuses.

    3 studies, more than the ACCD has against it, say it makes more senst to put it downtown.

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    I've posted this before Chris



    But opponents pointed out that UTHSC conducts a lot of its pediatric clinical training, family practice research and training, and geriatric in-patient admission and teaching in inner-city downtown locations, very close to where the Texas Diabetic Ins ute is located.

    "I wasn't against the bond and its components, they were great things," says pulmonologist Carlos Orozco, who unwittingly became a leader of the opposition. "But they were forcing the (nursing) campus to be built on the North Side after (UTHSC) moved pediatrics (training) to Santa Rosa, geriatrics to the Nix and family practice to the Brady Green because that is where the clinical experience is. And the Texas Diabetic Ins ute, one of the most renowned places for this research, is on the West Side; it's where people are learning from patients about cardiology, nephrology, podiatry and you name it."

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    "We're talking about students (studying to become) licensed vocational nurses," Orozco says. "If they needed to study the molecule of a certain disease or a certain gene sequence, then you would send them to the medical school. But if they're going to take care of patients, you put them where they will get the clinical experience."
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/col....873e320d.html[QUOTE]

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    And some more....

    http://www.sacurrent.com/site/news.c...d=482778&rfi=6
    University Health System board chairman Robert Jimenez chided ACCD board members for not communicating with the county's top publicly funded hospital district when it decided to push the Medical Center site for a health campus. "Real estate gambling is driving the health campus location at the Medical Center. Downtown has the largest array of health services in Bexar County, and it provides the easiest access to students in Bexar County. That campus (proposed for the Medical Center) is going to die. It is a horrible investment."

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    I don't know if you guys think I just oppose for the of it, or if I toss around my support on a whim...but I research a load of things before deciding how I vote.

    I can honestly say that the only person in here who I know has an opposing view point and took the time to read a few things about this election was Travis. JB voted for it, and for reasons that I can understand as well.

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    A 200 mph bullet train network inside 1604 would solve everything.

    Back me up Buddy.

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    I don't know if you guys think I just oppose for the of it, or if I toss around my support on a whim...but I research a load of things before deciding how I vote.

    I can honestly say that the only person in here who I know has an opposing view point and took the time to read a few things about this election was Travis. JB voted for it, and for reasons that I can understand as well.
    Uh, I read too, damnit.

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    I included you, stupid. Kinda. My bad, I meant to include you too. And Jane too, I think. Whatever. I'm just a Manny.

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    Uh, I read too, damnit.
    That's funny. My sides are aching.

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    I missed this article from last Sunday, but it has plenty of great points

    Lynnell Burkett: While ACCD board stews, No. 2 site remains option
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/columnis....95cdc084.html


    A planning committee with representatives of the district and its four colleges recommended a downtown location, although not a specific site, last summer.

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    The ACCD leadership touted two studies hastily prepared in December after the location issue began causing a ruckus.

    One was, so far as I can tell, only a PowerPoint presentation prepared by Dennis Martinez (better known as the husband of former City Manager Terry Brechtel), which gave a top rating to the medical center.

    Those are only selected excerts of the colum I'm using to make a point, but the gist of the colum is about the same. Either way, there's a link, read away.

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    Obligatory.

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    !!!!

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    Whatever Manny. I guess I don't read. Since you do everyone else's opinions on the matter are obviously wrong. I don't believe we need another ACCD campus near downtown.

    Just because you have the right to vote doesn't mean it's wrong not to vote. You need to try and understand that.

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    no one wants to go downtown for a class at sac or st phillips, its a hole. the ones who didnt want the in the medical center are people who about having to take a via when they just wanna ride their bike or hitch a ride with jose on the way to the construction site. ing drive, walk, get on a bus, but who really wants to go to school in a ty location.

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    Chris, you didn't even know you had the right to vote in this election. Don't try and turn it into some sort of protest vote now. And trying to say what the voters did was wrong, while having not voted, is pretty damn stupid. I love how you've gone from "I couldn't vote" to "not voting isn't wrong". Uh huh.

    Chris You can have your opinion any way you want it(not that it matters if you don't vote). But you won't even acknowledge that the medical center wasn't this slam dunk decision that everyone keeps making it out to be.

    to paraphrase the shock..."My god, how could we have not put it in the medical center"

    I've given LOTS Of valid reasons to suggest there were better, cheaper, and more accessible palces downtown.

    What reasons have you given?

    Sure man, try and tell me you researched this election beforehand. I'm sure thats why you weren't aware you could vote.

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    no one wants to go downtown for a class at sac or st phillips, its a hole. the ones who didnt want the in the medical center are people who about having to take a via when they just wanna ride their bike or hitch a ride with jose on the way to the construction site. ing drive, walk, get on a bus, but who really wants to go to school in a ty location.
    that is pretty much it in a nuts ... no one wants to go to a school in a ty location... esp the st philips area..

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    Chris, you didn't even know you had the right to vote in this election. Don't try and turn it into some sort of protest vote now. And trying to say what the voters did was wrong, while having not voted, is pretty damn stupid. I love how you've gone from "I couldn't vote" to "not voting isn't wrong". Uh huh.

    Chris You can have your opinion any way you want it(not that it matters if you don't vote). But you won't even acknowledge that the medical center wasn't this slam dunk decision that everyone keeps making it out to be.

    to paraphrase the shock..."My god, how could we have not put it in the medical center"

    I've given LOTS Of valid reasons to suggest there were better, cheaper, and more accessible palces downtown.

    What reasons have you given?

    Sure man, try and tell me you researched this election beforehand. I'm sure thats why you weren't aware you could vote.

    Manny, shut the up! You are full of ! People don't have to vote if they don't want to. Some don't care about voting. That is as much their right as it is yours to about anything and everything. You still don't know where I live, so you don't know if I was even eligible to vote. So STFU about that already. If you want to reach people you might want to start by stepping down of your podium and stop taking a holier than thou at ude on everything.

    I will limit myself to one single reason why they should not build another campus downtown. There are already several in central SA. I want one on the NE side of town. One that is close to where I live. I took many classes at SAC. It sucks driving that far. I think it is unfair that most of the campuses are already centrally located. I think it would make sense to place a new campus where the majority of new growth in SA is taking place (NW).

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    I agree, but mario and hector dont wanna have to get on a via to go to a new campus, they want it built right in their back yard off south flores and shyt.


    who wants to drive from a nice area of living to a hole to go to school? not me.

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    You mean like NORTHWEST VISTA.

    There's SAC downtown. There's PAC on the southside. NWV on the NW side. St. Philips on the East.

    I see ONE centraly located school, from which they were going to take classes AWAY form, and move to the medical center, when it makes very little sense, and is a more costly option.

    Also, this bond has money to put a school on the NORTH EAST side. In fact, the existing school who was going to get the most out of this bond, was by far NORTHWEST Vista.

    Chris, I'm not trying to reach you. I'm trying to proove a point. I've given up on this forum being a medium to "reach" people. Hardly anyone in here will concede when something is written in stone. I've done a load of canvasing, and I know how to speak to people when I'm trying to bring them over to my side. You're just pissed off because everytime you say something that you simply pull out of your ass, I shoot it down. (See above on wanting a Norwest located college)

    Oh and, proove me wrong about the voting issue. Just say you live outside of Bexar county.

    I acknowledged people can not vote if they want to, and yes it is a right. But when they choose to then about the outcome of an election they choose not to participate in, it's pretty ridiculous.

    Anyhow, I'll go back to being full of now.

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    son, NW VISTA is ING MINIATURE. I THINK HE IS TALKIN ABOUT ADDING OR GREATLY EXPANDING THAT , FOR CHRISTS SAKE SON, THE NEW NISD HIGH SCHOOLS ARE BIGGER THAN NW VISTA!

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