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    Apparently, Jeff Gannon/Guckert has been caught in yet another bold-face lie. In a well-known Right-wing web log Gannon once wrote..

    #45 from Jeff Gannon on March 5, 2003 03:26 AM
    This is a question I asked Ari Fleischer at a White House press briefing on Friday:

    Q There have been reports out of Maine that the children of deployed service personnel are being harassed as a result of their elementary school teacher's expression of anti-war views in the classroom. Could you comment on that?

    MR. FLEISCHER: I'm not familiar with any specific report, but I can assure you that the President, in all instances, believes that it's important for all to honor and respect the first amendment.

    Not the answer I was looking for, but at least I was able to get the issue in front of the mainstream press.
    winds of Change

    When did Gannon/Guckert first get in the White House ?

    This apparently predates McClellan's press secretary tenure !

    At the Feb 10 2005 gaggle, McClellan said, 'He, like anyone else, showed that he was representing a news organization that published regularly, and so he was cleared two years ago to receive daily passes, just like many others are.'

    McClellan also says: 'I think he's been coming for more than two years now.' (Does this mean 2002 also ?)

    Further, he says, 'No one's ever brought such an issue to my attention, in my -- during my time as being Press Secretary.'

    And: 'My understanding was, when he started coming to the White House about two years ago, the staff asked to see that it -- that he represented a news organization that published regularly. And they showed that, so he was cleared and has been cleared ever since based on that time.'

    Ladies & gentlemen, he did NOT represent Talon when he first got in the White House - 'Talon News' did not EXIST until Mar 29 2003 and that was LESS than 2 yrs ago.

    Further we have a 'Jeff Gannon' claiming on Mar 5 2003 to have been at a White House press briefing where he asked Ari Fleischer the question above.

    Was [update # 1:] Feb 28 2003 his first time in the White House - or does McClellan's 'more than 2 yrs ago' comment mean that 'Gannon' was in the White House posing as a reporter with NO NEWS SERVICE (not even Talon!) to hide behind.

    This predates McClellan-as-press-secretary.

    This gets curiouser.

    Source:Daily Kos

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    dan actually posted legit this time. can't attack him for this.
    His wild accusations are not LEGIT! He has posted things that are true, but he keeps weaving them together by reaching and jumping to conclusions.

    The only proof of anything I've seen so far, is that the guy registered some adult domains, was present at some White House press conferences, and has stepped down at the media outlet he was writting for. Now I want to see some solid PROOF of some REAL wrong doing.

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    It is interesting how fast those who supposedly are for tolerance of gays against the fury of religious conservatives are ready to rely on "gay" as a perjorative term...

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    You still don't get it, Matt. It's FUNNY that he tricked self-said religious conservatives into voting for him. I DGAF who he screws, but I'll bet THEY do.

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    Oh I get it. You are willing to believe anything and engage in anything, even something you supposedly deplore.

    And the name's Willie.

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    Right. As if one of your daily iden ies is so tough to spot. OK, "Willie".

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    Karl Rove wins again.

    Come on Dems! Just because someone offers you a line of does not mean you have to eat it.

    I'm quite agnostic with regards to my politics, but my goodness, you Dems are hitting new credibility depths. George W. Bush could walk into his backyard in Crawford, two goats and a chicken in front of Michael Moore, and still come out smelling like a political rose.

    Anyone doubt that?

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    George W. Bush could walk into his backyard in Crawford, two goats and a chicken in front of Michael Moore, and still come out smelling like a political rose.
    Absolutely. Because instead of focusing on his goat- ing tendencies, his detractors (the most obnoxiously vocal ones, I should say) would try to convince the populace that not ONLY was he ing goats and chickens... but those goats and chickens once belonged to Saudi royals who allowed him to their animals in exchange for permission to detonate a nuclear warhead in Los Angeles.
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    Absolutely. Because instead of focusing on his goat- ing tendencies, his detractors would try to convince the populace that not ONLY was he ing goats and chickens... but those goats and chickens once belonged to Saudi royals who allowed him to their animals in exchange for permission to detonate a nuclear warhead in Los Angeles.
    That's funny as , BUT ONLY because it's true.

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    But Bush was near THE GAY.

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    Karl Rove wins again.

    Come on Dems! Just because someone offers you a line of does not mean you have to eat it.

    I'm quite agnostic with regards to my politics, but my goodness, you Dems are hitting new credibility depths. George W. Bush could walk into his backyard in Crawford, two goats and a chicken in front of Michael Moore, and still come out smelling like a political rose.

    Anyone doubt that?

    I agree 100 per cent. What better way to motivate the far right base for the mid term elections than to accuse their man of posessing THE GAY? What better way to ensure that nothing of real substance attracts the most attention in our public discourse?

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    What better way to ensure that nothing of real substance attracts the most attention in our public discourse?
    And Bingo was his name-O.

    Ain't it funny that Republicans merely fear "Balkanization," while the Democrats actually suffer from it.

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    After spending the better part of 2 years accusing Bush of invading Iraq to enrich his friends, having prior knowledge of the 9-11 attacks, cheating during a presidential debate, neglecting his National Guard duties, etc...do the Demos really think that accusing Bush of being a closet sexual is going to work? At some point does it not register that the more you throw at Bush the more it energizes his base?

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    Just more fodder for Right Wing Talk Radio. Instead of having to try to defend the White House for allowing a supposed reporter with questionable credentials to have the kind of access to the President usually reserved for established veterans, they'll be taking calls from angry right-wing loyalists who are outraged that anyone would call The President a .

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    What's needed now is for Howard Dean to start asking why the media isn't covering the scandal involving Bush's gay lover.

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    Rove strategy for 2005-2006:

    Spend 2005 pushing every major policy goal listed on the GOP wishlist for over the last five decades or thereabouts.

    Spend 2006 pushing phony social issue items (ie abortion, gay marriage, etc) designed to motivate base turnout in the November election.

    Repeat again starting in 2007.

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    Karl Rove wins again.

    Come on Dems! Just because someone offers you a line of does not mean you have to eat it.

    I'm quite agnostic with regards to my politics, but my goodness, you Dems are hitting new credibility depths. George W. Bush could walk into his backyard in Crawford, two goats and a chicken in front of Michael Moore, and still come out smelling like a political rose.

    Anyone doubt that?
    You should change your moniker from GON to DMF cause your a dumb mother-fuk. What or who the is a credible source to you? Cnn? FoxNews?

    The only reason that this adminstration gets away with every corrupt act they get away with is because of dumb- s like you who are so apathetic about our government that you truely just don't give a anymore about anything but yourself. People like you are so far gone, you've grown so cynicle that you are beyond reproach. No, it's not the conspiracy theorists that post in this forum who are the true threats to our fragile democracy, but the DMF's like you who ridicule everyone that still does gives a .

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    So we're supposed to care now that a young inexperienced individual with questionable credentials got into the White House and perhaps got it on but we weren't with president #42?

    GoN is correct and judging by the response he got apparently hit a nerve dead on.

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    Absolutely. Because instead of focusing on his goat- ing tendencies, his detractors (the most obnoxiously vocal ones, I should say) would try to convince the populace that not ONLY was he ing goats and chickens... but those goats and chickens once belonged to Saudi royals who allowed him to their animals in exchange for permission to detonate a nuclear warhead in Los Angeles.
    See, that's the kind of straw-man logic that these board NeoCons rely on to undermine arguments. You can post till your blue in the face about a fake reporter working for a fake news agency reporting fake news and none of them seem to get it, but talk beastiality or god-forbid, sexuals, and all of the sudden that all that this whole situation is about.

    Give your head out of your ass for once Sperminator.

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    So we're supposed to care now that a young inexperienced individual with questionable credentials got into the White House and perhaps got it on but we weren't with president #42?

    GoN is correct and judging by the response he got apparently hit a nerve dead on.
    Your supposed to care because this nation is supposed to be on a war-footing complete with protecting against everyday threats to a sitting President, and here we have a situation where a person with compromised credentials evidently got preferrential treatment by the WH press corps.

    We were not under a war-footing under Clinton, at least, Democrats weren't yet, but the 00 and 04 Presidential elections have certainly changed all that.

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    Funny, this nation should have been on a war footing back then but instead the president was busy entertaining someone young.

    You want to know why people don't seem to give a damn about politics in this forum? I'll tell you.

    YOU.

    Figure it out.

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    Funny, this nation should have been on a war footing back then but instead the president was busy entertaining someone young.

    You want to know why people don't seem to give a damn about politics in this forum? I'll tell you.

    YOU.

    Figure it out.
    I think you need to figure out that it doesn't matter how many avatars you make up to post in this forum. Nobody cares that you dislike me or this forum. They like it and they are going to post here anyway.

    This forum is less than a year old, but we have survived the loss of various good posters - Truthsayer, DeSpurado, and now evidently Yonivore and you know what? None of it matters because there are always others coming and going that help pick up the pieces which others left behind.

    There is no greater evidence to the longtivity of this forum.

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    The issue was why so many individuals are apathetic about American politics.

    You are a prime example. People are sick and tired of partisans who either love their side and believe they can do no wrong or view the other side with a hatred so comical you can't help but laugh sometimes.

    Most people post in here to ridicule your dumbass threads. Some accomplishment.

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    You can post till your blue in the face about a fake reporter working for a fake news agency reporting fake news and none of them seem to get it, but talk beastiality or god-forbid, sexuals, and all of the sudden that all that this whole situation is about.

    Give your head out of your ass for once Sperminator.
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    But you've talked till you were blue in the face about the sexuality/pros ution angle of the story. You've been doing exactly as I described. There are valid criticisms to be made about Gannon's credentials as a journalist, but you and other DU sheep have chosen to focus on the sex. And that's why most people have tuned you out, and will continue to tune you out.

    If you took a poll of casual forum visitors who have not read every post in detail, but just scanned some of the threads, what do you think their perception of this scandal would be? Would they think you were most concerned that a non-credible reporter gained access to the White House, or that a sexual pros ute gained access to the White House?

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