Has Nazr ever dunked over Mutumbo or blocked a Bradley Dunk?
Look at whats important. You guys are missing the boat.
Has any under achiever ever came to SA and turned over a new leaf?
No!!!
Stephen Jackson
Speedy Claxton
Malik Rose
Bruce Bowen
Good call Jim.
Not one of those was considered an underachiever, not one.
And Speedy only played well in the playoffs when TP was struggling, he was not any better than he was in Philly, only healthier.
AHF, I will bet you any amt of money right now that Nazr does not average 10-10 like you predicted, deal?
Nice comments, Kori.
I'm with you in the the only thing that worries me is the chemistry issue.
Why don't we give Nazr a little while and see how he plays as he adjusts to our system?
Rose was not a big-time contributor here any more (although he occasionally put up a big game), and Nazr has the potential to improve. In our team D schemes, I would be very surprised if he doesn't vastly improve just like Rasho did, and I'd rather see him shoot the ball than Roase who had a penchant for ill-advised 18-fters and pump-faking one too many times before getting rejected. And I'm not hting on Malik, I just think he's passed his prime as far as the Spurs' team direction.
We all love Malik as a guy, but as a basketball decision this was a no-brainer. Nazr is no Samaki Walker!
Dude, I have Leage Pass, I have seen this guy more times than I can count, he sucks. He is tall and he is cheap, that is why we have him, not because he is good.
Trust me on this...Nazr blows.
Remember we gave up Rose and a 1st round draft pick and a 2nd rounder. Need I remind you who we have drafted the past few years in those spots?
Rose was a nobody. Project at best, bust at worst.
Claxton was "chronically injured, never healthy, never gonna be a player."
How can you say Jackson wasn't an underachiever?
He had bounced between Phoenix and the Nets, and was CUT by Byron who said he'd never amount to anything.
Bowen had been cut by the Heat, and Riley said he was finished in the league.
No underachievers my ass.
I'll take your bet, howabout you put up $100 dentistry profit to my $10 broke ass college grad bank account
We gave up two first rounders, we have one 1st rounder this summer.
Whom do you have penciled in for #27-30 in 2006?
Need I remind you we've kept a grand total of two first round picks since Duncan was drafted?
We have kept two of the seven first round picks since we drafted Duncan, and we pretty much have our deep set after this summer for the next 4 years.a 1st round draft pick and a 2nd rounder. Need I remind you who we have drafted the past few years in those spots?
The only opportunity for a draft pick over the next two drafts is a long three and a gunner. That's it.
We don't need draft picks! We have our core (Duncan, TP, Manu, Rasho) locked up long-term, with Udrih, Barry and Bowen for another 2 seasons after this one. It's not a bad time to give up draft picks for a centre with potential.
I agree that Rose, Claxton, Bowen and Jackson were all underachievers who improved here. Rose improved each year for his first 4 with us, Bowen has reached All-D standars, and Jackson was an inconsistent, doghouse living character problem before he sat on our bench for a year and became a real player.
Also, Claxton was excellent in the 2nd half of 2003, not just the Finals! I remember watching him when I was in SA and thinking that he had to be the best backup PG in the league! Remember the 1-rebound off a triple double night? TD stole the rebound off him unknowingly! Anyway, he was not just a 3-game wonder, he was solid all throughtout the lead-up to the Championship.
Rose was not an underachiever, he was a wet behind the ears player who got no PT.Rose was a nobody. Project at best, bust at worst.
Claxton was "chronically injured, never healthy, never gonna be a player."
How can you say Jackson wasn't an underachiever?
He had bounced between Phoenix and the Nets, and was CUT by Byron who said he'd never amount to anything.
Bowen had been cut by the Heat, and Riley said he was finished in the league.
No underachievers my ass.
I'll take your bet, howabout you put up $100 dentistry profit to my $10 broke ass college grad bank account
Claxton was hurt but he was a good player, he was ok for SA for most of his time here, but had a good playoff run which raised his stock.
Bowen was not cut by Riley, he left as a free agent, he was highly acclaimed as a defender and that is why Pop wanted him
Jackson got no PT either till he got here, he was not a starter that underachieved like Nazr.
Nazr sucks, you will all see soon enough.
Actually, Jim, Jackson started for an extended period in NJ.
Bowen was on the rise, but not a perrenial all-D candidate like he is now.
Claxton was great for the last 40 games and the playoffs.
On Nazr, I think we should wait and see. The Spurs' system and teamwork often makes silk purses out of pig's ears. The Knicks system makes all those players look bloody awful. We will see.
Well, I hope you are right.
But those players were not underachievers, in the stictest sense of the definition...they were all young and did not have any real playing time as starters prior to their stay in SA.
Jax started several games in NJ, Byron Scott cut him and said he was too much of a loose cannon to make it in the league.
That is not an underachiever...nuff said.
Well if you're going to be who decides what an underachiever is, I guess we shouldn't even bother talking about it.
Jax was a highly talented player coming into the league who was viewed as a bust by both Phoenix and NJ. If that's not underachieving (relative to what he did once he got to SA) then I don't know what is.
He was never ever projected to do anything.
What kind of contract did he get when he went to Atlanta??????????????????
He got league min, just about.
He prospered in Atlanta and made a name for himself there, not on SA.
Had he been as good in SA as in Atlanta, he would have been a hot comodity and had a huge payday after SA, not after Atlanta.
people should atleast give him a chance to play in the spurs uniform before saying he sucks badly
rose had a decent game in his day view as a knick
but it was against a TIRED PACERS TEAM.
give the guy a chance before saying he is a bust
all the other writers are saying spurs stole him so lets see
Tired Pacers team???
Kurt Thomas has 1 more rebound that Rose and he played 29 more mins than Rose
Jackson got no PT because he underachieved.
Also, I can't understand why you want Nazr to do so poorly. He's one of our guys now. If he plays well, the Spurs will be better. 10-10? Hmm .. I won't go that far, but he'll be a solid player.
I like Malik. I'll miss him. But I'm ready to move on and root for Nazr. Go Spurs Go.
I do not want him to do poorly, I just know he sucks ass.
There is a difference.
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