A call for Unity and Change...

[Wild Cobra]

That's what I've heard and the only reason I disagree with it.

Now if it's true that the poor cannot get the new ID's for free, then I agree too, under current laws.

However...

I do believe the cons ution needs amended. I believe in a poll tax for the purpose of keeping people from voting in politicians that give them freebies...

Maybe that's not the best solution, but this nation will self-destruct at some point in the future with increased social programs. Something needs to be done about it.

[Darrin]

Oh stop it with the "white man's guilt" crap! People are responsible for their own lives and they need to stop blaming others for poor decisions they've made.

"Rev" Al Sharpton, "Rev" Jesse Jackson, "Rev" Jeremiah Wright - some of the most racist people in America. Also - Obama is HALF white - yet everyone calls him the 1st black President - so they're totally negating his white ethnicity - couldn't that be considered racist?

You are shouting down an attempt at a genuine conversation about this topic by labeling it 'white guilt.' I would define white guilt as overcompensation for racism. This is simply attempting to share my personal struggles with this topic and asking others to do the same.

Realize that we are what we inherit. What we inherit sets the standards of norms in our world; it shapes how we think. For instance, I only speak and write English because it is what I inherited. I can't imagine calling defining 'blue' as 'bleu' in my mind. I can call it bleu, but my mind first identifies it as blue.

This is an attempt to redefine our cultural standard. Racism lives in our languages and our ins utions. We are reverent to a past that valued it.

[ChumpDumper]

I believe in a poll tax

And slavery.

[The Reckoning]

And slavery.

and 700,000 lives were paid for it.

[Darrin]

[DarrinS]

Liberal white guilt thread.

[DarrinS]

Actually, one of the positives of an Obama presidency will be a nail in the "race card" coffin.


Personally, I'm sick of hearing about it. People of my generation (under 40) don't really have that much to about. Our parents and grandparents generation? Well, that's a different story.

[Winehole23]

Personally, I'm sick of hearing about it. People of my generation (under 40) don't really have that much to about. Our parents and grandparents generation? Well, that's a different story.

Ever been to jail, or to visit someone in prison?

Well, that's a different story.

[Winehole23]

The demise of racism has been unduly exaggerated. Feeling guilty about it is neither here nor there for me. I don't care whether people feel guilty. The only thing that matters is giving people respect.

But pretending racism no longer exists is asinine -- particularly for posters still wishing to play the race card against African-Americans.

[MannyIsGod]

But lets be realistic. It is a far better country to be a minority in than any other, period. Unequivocally and Im sorry, it isnt even close.

Why is that? Name one other country where a minority of less than 13% of the population is so well represented in all levels of government. Maybe there is, but again, I friggin doubt it.

What do I get if I can name a country or countries were minorities are better off?

[MannyIsGod]

Personally, I'm sick of hearing about it. People of my generation (under 40) don't really have that much to about. Our parents and grandparents generation? Well, that's a different story.

Then why do minorities lag behind in every statistical indicator?

[DarkReign]

What do I get if I can name a country or countries were minorities are better off?

, I dont know. A cookie? All my vbookie cash that I dont use?

I am just interested in the example. I for one didnt think it exists or that the parallels are going to be the same, but I am definitely all ears and totally ready to admit being wrong.

[MannyIsGod]

I don't know off the top of my head, but I'm fairly certain the US is not the best but we'll find out once I look at figures. I'm too braindead too do it right now though.

[Wild Cobra]

and 700,000 lives were paid for it.

And in the process, we lost States Rights.

[ChumpDumper]

Never had them, the notion of states' rights was just an invented rationale to protect...

...slavery.


We all know how you miss that.

[Winehole23]

Never had them, the notion of states' rights was just an invented rationale to protect...

Though John C. Calhoun may have been it's highest expression, secession fever did rage briefly in New England in the 1820's, mostly due to the exaggerated political influence of southern men in politics, but it was partly also prompted by crass mercantile interests in the North.

As made clear in the bio linked above, John C. Calhoun was changeable, and got his start as an ardent nationalist. He was a latecomer to states rights. The explanation given in the bio is that he was always loyal to his state and fiercely promoted its best interest.

Which included rights in man.

The Civil War decided that question once and for all.

There's one way out of the Union. Feet first.

[Winehole23]

Then why do minorities lag behind in every statistical indicator?

Rilly?

Asian-Americans?

[whottt]

I don't know off the top of my head, but I'm fairly certain the US is not the best but we'll find out once I look at figures. I'm too braindead too do it right now though.

I'll give you a country with a better one...how about Mexico, that is if you're white...or American.

Now what?

Become like Mexco?

[DarkReign]

I don't know off the top of my head, but I'm fairly certain the US is not the best but we'll find out once I look at figures. I'm too braindead too do it right now though.

Well, if and when you do, I'd be very interested.

[DarrinS]

Then why do minorities lag behind in every statistical indicator?

At some point, people have to pick themselves up by their own bootstraps and EARN their way in this world.


I was just another low-income kid from the west side. I'm not where I'm at now just because I'm a white boy.


People use "racism" as an excuse for failure.

[DarrinS]

Ever been to jail, or to visit someone in prison?

Well, that's a different story.

Wow. Everyone in jail is there because they're black or brown? Did anyone commit a crime? I'm not sure I follow your argument.

[MannyIsGod]

At some point, people have to pick themselves up by their own bootstraps and EARN their way in this world.


I was just another low-income kid from the west side. I'm not where I'm at now just because I'm a white boy.


People use "racism" as an excuse for failure.

So you're saying minorities lag behind because they are lazy? Interesting.

[MannyIsGod]

Wow. Everyone in jail is there because they're black or brown? Did anyone commit a crime? I'm not sure I follow your argument.

Your initial argument is that everything is equal. Well for some reason prisons have a disproportionate number of minorities within them. That doesn't seem to say equality.

[DarrinS]

So you're saying minorities lag behind because they are lazy? Interesting.

Yes.


Sincerely,


Chris Rock

[DarrinS]

Your initial argument is that everything is equal. Well for some reason prisons have a disproportionate number of minorities within them. That doesn't seem to say equality.

Minorities commit a disproportionate number of crimes, especially against each other.