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white devil
A call for change and unity means that we no longer stay with the system we have. I think we'll admit that the Caucasian male has been the predominant deciding factor in our policy towards difference and tolerance since the dawn of the nation. If we need a change, then the white man, including me, must change.
So let us start a discussion today. When I think of a man in America, my predmominant image is that of a white male. Call me small-minded, but I grew up in a relatively white community. My standards were set and the politics of race were formed in that conservative mid-west community. We too often had racist opinions openly expressed in our school halls. We too often said nothing about them.
All I had to teach me about race was the myth and history book. In my adult life I have come to realize just how stilted I was, how shameful it feels today that I grew up in such bigoted surroundings. It softened my view of right and wrong.
It simply means that I view race as a seperate class. Where President Obama challenges us to see only Americans and not tribes, I have to make an effort to meet that standard. It is my personal struggle.
I hope you'll discuss frankly today your own story of what molded your at udes on race.
white devil
i was raised in N. ireland. i didn't have time to consider skin color, other than oppressive white guys we had to fry.
I rarely notice race anymore (at least not immediately). I was raised in a mixed neighborhood, most of my best friends have been races other than mine, I'm actually not attracted to women of the same race as me for the most part, and my mom would have slapped the crap out of me if I had shown any sign of racist behaviour or even racial stereotyping.
My family is a different story, which is why I have little to do with them anymore.
But you're pinning it all on the "white man," which is complete BS. Some of the most racist people I've met are black and hispanic. Change needs to come from all groups, all classes. We're not going to get over race as long as we're forced to think about it by the government (school admission guidelines, racial "quotas" for hiring practices, availability of federal aid, etc), anyway, though.
Oh stop it with the "white man's guilt" crap! People are responsible for their own lives and they need to stop blaming others for poor decisions they've made.
"Rev" Al Sharpton, "Rev" Jesse Jackson, "Rev" Jeremiah Wright - some of the most racist people in America. Also - Obama is HALF white - yet everyone calls him the 1st black President - so they're totally negating his white ethnicity - couldn't that be considered racist?
By legal definition he's black. We've had other white Presidents before (43 of them), so that part of his ancestory isn't a historical precedent. It's not like their "negating" his white ancestory, it's just a non-story.
Besides, do you want to refer to him as the first half-breed (or whatever term you prefer) President and wait for someone 100% black to earn the first black Pres le?
I still find it kind of stupid, though. I don't care that he's the first black president, or someone in the future will be the first Hispanic, the first Asian, the first female presidents. What matters is he's the 44th President.
I have zero "white guilt". I am not responsible in any way for the wrongs of my predecessors (which is funny because my family immigrated to America sometime in the 1880s, and my mother's side before the rise of the Nazi party in Germany).
Nor will I accept someone who suggests so. Its prepostorous.
Here I was having a conversation about how my generation (born in 1980) might be the first non-racist generation in America. I grew up with rap music, which like it or not (i dislike hip-hop/rap to the Nth degree) had a huge impact on American culture. It opened my young, white-surburbanite eyes to a sub-section of society I had no idea existed (I was 10, cut me some slack).
So, of course I will readily admit that black people have been dealt a very ty hand when all things are considered. I also completely understand that the vestiges of racism and segregation are not completely eradicated.
But lets be realistic. It is a far better country to be a minority in than any other, period. Unequivocally and Im sorry, it isnt even close. How do you think my white-skin would fare in China? Japan (notoriously racist and xenophobic)? India (eh, maybe not o bad)? How about this....a country in Africa not named South Africa?
Do you think I would be elected to public office? Hold any position of power? Have the same access to public education and welfare?
I dont know the answers to those questions, but I can say "I friggin doubt it".
Why is that? Name one other country where a minority of less than 13% of the population is so well represented in all levels of government. Maybe there is, but again, I friggin doubt it.
No, I dont think I have any introspection to do on this subject at all. I have always accepted people for who they are since I was old enough to know my grandparents were racist, small-minded relics. It didnt take very much conditioning, it just took a conscious effort to forget what stereotypes I heard throughout my upbringing about minorities. I was about 12 at the time and can say with no problem, it was resolved and true-spirited by 13-14ish.
Now let me say, I still laugh a the occasional black joke. But thats my dumb, dark humor at play. I laugh at dumb, dorky white people too. Gay people also.
But thats more a life philosophy of mine than naything else. "If you cant laugh at yourself, you cannot laugh at somebody else." Basically, if you cant take being the butt of a joke, then you have no business being entertained by any form of entertainment on this planet. Because half of life's comedy is predicated on the existence of other people and their misadventures.
Yeah, his half whiteness is totally relevant and overlooked. Sixty years ago, his white half would have given him a pass to use white restrooms, water fountains and public schools in the south. Also, he would have had 4/5ths of a vote instead of 3/5ths like them full-breeds.
Are you this ing stupid?
Don't answer. Just think on it.
skinny, anglo smokers are an endangered species
I have no cracker guilt complex nor will I let government/society brainwash me into feeling guilty for no reason.
Any man only deserves what he works for. Period.
I completely understand the game that is being played.
Apparently, yes...
I hope you'all send your anti-racist sentiments to the Texas Republicans senators who are trying to reimplement the poll tax under the guise of a voter ID law.
The details of all such things I have seen have reduced and free ID for such purposes as not to disenfranchise people. The only ones disenfranchised are the illegals!
Those 'in the know' saying otherwise, know the illegal votes benefit liberals!
Dude, that's not racist, it's classist (anti-poor, not anti-race).
Of course, 1) state (or military) issued photo ID SHOULD be required to vote and 2) state issued photo ID (not DL, ID) should be FREE once you hit 18.
You forget...
Lib s think that anything that *might* have an effect of a minority is racist!
I'm actually really surprised you even know what the poll tax was. WC must have started furiously reading up on history on the internets after he got called schooled the other day.
I know what a poll tax is. You apparently don't!
I assumed it was the same complaint that always arises when a person must present a valid ID and ID's cost money.
Now please, just how is that a poll tax? Is it a special ID to only allow you to vote, or a tamper proof ID to decrease voter fraud? Then... are they not free to poor people?
Show me the details before I can agree it's a poll tax.
Now... If you think that not knowing everything is being 'schooled,' then you are even more lib ed than I originally thought!
There have been very very few illegal votes that would have been reversed by voter ID laws. There have been many investigations into this "problem" with very little to show for them. Here is one link describing investigations in Bexar County.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/col.../37780404.html
As for the cost, my understanding is that the Texas bills would not provide for free IDs.
what? so ACORN can work the system again?
-Mars
The problem is that the numbers cannot be determined. The loopholes are so large. When you get to states like mine, and it's impossible to do any valid checking. We have vote-by-mail with absolutely no verification process. Rampant voter fraud most certainly happens, but there are no statistics because there is zero enforcement.
well darrin....there's your answer about unity and change.
forgive us for expressing our opinions. take away the 1st amendment while you're at it.
-Mars
That's what I've heard and the only reason I disagree with it.
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