Civil rights = Equal rights.
Yes, I realize what the conversation was about. But you have to realize that you were intentionally giving the impression that you had fought the plight of a Black man and risen above it to succeed.Puerto Rican. The conversation was more about minorities and the innercity.
Actually Dan is right about a lot of bisexual black men spreading AIDS to their women because the women don't have any idea they are bisexual. It's a phenomenon called living on the "downlow" that has become popular in many black communities and there have been many articles and exposes about it.
But do you believe this type of behavior accounts entirely for the difference in percetages?
Of course not. IV drug use, etc are factors. But living on the downlow is a lot more prevalent than most people think.But do you believe this type of behavior accounts entirely for the difference in percetages?
When I was living in Los Angeles, I knew quite a few "heterosexual" black guys, mostly athetes on various levels, all of whom had wives or girlfriends but liked to "have " every once in a while.
None of them that it was a big deal, nor considered themselves gay or bisexual. And none of their wives/girlfriends knew about it. I even know a girl who is HIV-positive and has only had sex with two partners in her life. Unfortunately the second one was on the downlow and had HIV.
I guess my comments were more pointed towards what I percieve as undertones in Dan's posts.
We don't have those fairy bros here in Texas, mang.
:vomit
I've heard that living on the "downlow" has been around for ages.
man, they think of cool names for EVERYTHING these days.....
i'm hittin maryjane on the downlow....it can't be too downlow if people know about it though right?
i can't imagine a brutha coming out and telling someone, yeah, i smoke a little on the side....but keep that on the downlow, ya dig....
as for the article. it's a free country. survival of the fittest. too many people with NOTHING to start with have gone on to greatness, for others to be making excuses about inequities and inadequate en lements....
No dawg, I ain't never heard no brotha talk about no "downlow" .
Now they do like to talk about their booty calls. Maybe their talkin' about backdoor booty calls?
Whatever, it starts at home. s or no s, aids or no aids. drugs,violence,etc. it starts at home with 16 year old hood rats and their thug ass baby daddy having kids at 15 and 16 and its babies havin babies. its all on the parents.
As the snow flies
On a cold and gray chicago mornin’
A poor little baby child is born
In the ghetto
And his mama cries
’cause if there’s one thing that she don’t need
It’s another hungry mouth to feed
In the ghetto
People, don’t you understand
The child needs a helping hand
Or he’ll grow to be an angry young man some day
Take a look at you and me,
Are we too blind to see,
Do we simply turn our heads
And look the other way
Well the world turns
And a hungry little boy with a runny nose
Plays in the street as the cold wind blows
In the ghetto
And his hunger burns
So he starts to roam the streets at night
And he learns how to steal
And he learns how to fight
In the ghetto
Then one night in desperation
A young man breaks away
He buys a gun, steals a car,
Tries to run, but he don’t get far
And his mama cries
As a crowd gathers ’round an angry young man
Face down on the street with a gun in his hand
In the ghetto
As her young man dies,
On a cold and gray chicago mornin’,
Another little baby child is born
In the ghetto
(words & music by scott davis)
Kori, you say they are "heterosexual". Wow, where have I been, I thought
same sex folks were " sexual". And how is this type of conduct, sex, fit
into the the "downtrodden" minorities. Do you believe that HIV was caused
by the white race just to do away with the Black race? I understand that
is also being put out "on the street".
yea im so sure that whites are so out to get black people that they want to kill them. get over it. its skin color son. no one cares about if ur black, white green, pink, or purple. dont be a moron, no one is making hiv to kill blacks.
Where did I do that? You read something that wasn't there.
Huh????? What are you talking about?
if anyone thinks hiv is being put out to kill blacks they are morons.
Umm.. that's why I quoted the word "heterosexual" because I don't believe you can call yourself hetero when you are a guy having sex with a guy. But they don't perceive themselves as gay or bi.Kori, you say they are "heterosexual". Wow, where have I been, I thought
same sex folks were " sexual".
Here's a true story.
When I lived in Los Angeles, I had a friend who met this other guy at the gym. They became friends. Both guys had live-in girlfriends. The two guys hung out together, went to the gym, watched games, went out to eat, regular guy stuff.
One day the two guys went out to grab a bite to eat, on the way back home the guy asked my friend if he wanted to go back to his place for "a massage". At first, my friend was confused ... he didn't know what this guy could have possibly meant. After all, the guy wasn't gay ... he lived with his girlfriend. My friend didn't really respond to the comment at first, other than to just say "No."
When he got home, he called me and told me the story. I figured he must have been wrong .. after all I had met the guy and his girlfriend several times. So I told my friend to call the guy and ask what he meant; maybe it was some kind of misunderstanding.
When he did, the guy said, "Yeah, sorry if I surprised you. My girlfriend is out of town and I'm just in the mood for some ." My friend was like WTF, I didn't know you were bisexual. The guy told him that he wasn't. But that a lot of the guys at the gym were the same way ... that sometimes women got a little boring and it was better to just be with a man.
This was in a predominantly black area of Los Angeles. My friend turned down the guy's advances, but after checking it out with others in the gym and in the area, found out that ...yes, this was not too unpopular of a mindset. A lot of the guys were involved in the same type of activities while keeping a girlfriend or wife at home.
This was in 1990. Since then these social circles of young, black men who obviously have issues with their sexual iden y has grown and grown. I've read many articles on the net regarding this subject. They either don't admit they are gay because of shame, or are so confused that they don't even consider themselves gay. A lot of females have contracted HIV from these guys in these groups.
I'm not defending NBADan and his claims in the original post of this thread. I'm just saying that this "downlow" behavior among young, black males in major cities is not as outrageously unusual as most people would think.
no.Do you believe that HIV was caused by the white race just to do away with the Black race? I understand that is also being put out "on the street".
civil rights
pl.n. The rights belonging to an individual by virtue of citizenship, especially the fundamental freedoms and privileges guaranteed by the 13th and 14th Amendments to the U.S. Cons ution and by subsequent acts of Congress, including civil liberties, due process, equal protection of the laws, and freedom from discrimination.
No where does it say rights equal to white people.
I thinkyou're using freedom a bit loosely. If you use it in that manner, it could be argued that every time the court makes a ruling torwards equality we've been "freed". I'm sure that rings true on a certain abstract level, but I think it's a pretty loose using of the word.
But that's just semantics.
At the time the did not have "equal" rights as whites, thus the "white only" signs.
Yes, civil rights are the rights belonging to an individual by virtue of citizenship. Blacks were citizens and were not receiving the same rights as whites, thus making them unequal.
But if you want to argue over the definition go ahead.
Manny, I know you don't want to talk to me, but another question:
Don't you sometimes think that "freedom" and "equality" is a state of mind?
Think about something, especially in San Antonio, look around you at the
people who own businesses. How many are "white" and how many are
other races. Bye the way "white" is a terrible term, because there really
isn't a white race. And another side note, I am a Texan, borned, raised
and live here. The point: I ant white I is a Texan. So there! My point
I think you are beating a dead horse, equality and freedom are well and
thriving and racism is also well and thriving, always has been always will be
look around the world young man. Muslims killing Muslims, Christians putting
down other Christians and some people just plain don't like other people.
I am prejudice, some people I just damn well don't like.
Whoa, and here I thought that Jim Crow laws were out-dated.No where does it say rights equal to white people.
We have certain inalienable rights granted by God. IMO, the Civil Rights movement freed the oppressed to excercise their rights. Just so happened in general White People already had those freedoms.
I think it's a very important distinction, because it shifts the burden of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to the individual and not based upon how well everyone else is doing.
Some animals are equal, some are more equal than others.
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