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hes a volume shooter and a facilitator.
We already have 3 of those players on our team.
He doesn't dominate the ball.
hes a volume shooter and a facilitator.
We already have 3 of those players on our team.
16 shots per game on the Nets equates to volume shooting?
Exactly, We would not be trading one of the big 3 people we are trading a role player for a star player. I like Mason but cmon this is Vince Carter were talking about here and plus the nets would waive Bowen and Oberto and the spurs would bring them back. I just hope Pop and Rc are really considering it this is really a no brainer move.
If not Rasheed, we should go after Marcus Camby. I remember him being rumored to come to the Spurs last summer.
Much of the spurs' success in recent years has been due to their role players. their role players make the spurs a great team. there is no way the spurs would have traded a bunch of guys for a "superstar"
Rasheed would be a better fit for the Spurs than Carter. Sheed can stretch the defense, play on the block when Duncan is on the bench, and play interior D alongside Duncan. Vince Carter's a good player (understatement maybe), but I don't think he has the heart of intangibles to help the Spurs deep into the playoffs. I've never seen it from him.
However, people keep mentioning about trading role players for superstars. I wouldn't want to trade younger role players and potential stars for a superstar on the wrong side of 30 who shades away from contact. That's why I wouldn't want Carter.
How many people have been clamoring for a good to great backup PG, and now that we have one in the making, people want to trade him away? No thanks.
Ghost Writer,
Bench players fill roles for that particular team and to lose a lot of your depth for one player...doesn't make sense!
So as good as Carter is....giving up a quarter of your team will not help you at all.
Even though many ST posters believe the Spurs' bench is trash.....however, they fit for this team and how the FO built it.
What are Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili?...those have been the best 2 complimentary players that Spurs have added in 20 years. Remember, 3 les in 6 years.
I guess you forgot that!!
What do Spurs fans want?
Absolutely Amazing....the FO has constructed a team to win 3 les in 6 years and people act like this team has never won a le.
Gimme a break!!
Are Spurs fans that spoiled or incredibly unrealistic??? Sheesh!!
The Spurs are not going to trade 1/4 of their team just to satisfy some Spurs fans fantasy player list.
It has to make financial sense and business sense and even though VC is a good player...gutting your team doesn't solve it.
Of course...they would like to have someone of VC's talent or Sheed's talent but this is a business and it has to make sense long term or you end up making a stupid trade like the Dallas Mavericks in the Kidd deal.
Look at what is happening in PHX. Bad trades can mess up your franchise and the Spurs have steered clear of that.
Last edited by MarHill; 02-15-2009 at 04:54 PM.
vc doesnt dominate the ball and he wouldnt volume shoot on the spurs
anything can happen
If not Carter then the spurs should try to get a defensive minded bigman, I hate to say it but i don't think with this current group we can beat the lakers and celtics in a seven game series even Pop stated that. I like Bonner but he's not the kind of player i would put next to Tim to battle the lakers in a seven game series but thats just my opinion.What do Spurs fans want?
Absolutely Amazing....the FO has constructed a team to win 3 les in 6 years and people act like this team has never won a le.
Gimme a break!!
Are Spurs fans that spoiled or incredibly unrealistic??? Sheesh!!
The Spurs are not going to trade 1/4 of their team just to satisfy some Spurs fans fantasy player list.
It has to make financial sense and business sense and even though VC is a good player...gutting your team doesn't solve it.
Of course...it would like to have someone of VC's talent or Sheed's talent but this is a business and it has to make sense long term or you end up making a stupid trade like the Dallas Mavericks in the Kidd deal.
Look at what is happening in PHX. Bad trades can mess up your franchise and the Spurs have steered clear of that.
Of course they should get a defensive minded bigman...if they can. But trading 4 players just to get 1 doesn't make financial or compe ive sense.
Even Tim Duncan said yesterday in his interview on ESPN radio...he would like to have someone like that beside him but he's understand the Spurs don't have the flexibility to get a big deal done this season.
Also, he felt they have a chance this season to win it all (I agree with him) if they can stay healthy. Health was a bigger concern to him...than getting someone else.
Nooo :'[ i rlly wantd sheed :'[ :'[ =[ =(
I wonder what the plan for 2010 really is. I've assumed for awhile that the targets are Bosh or Dirk, because outside of those two FAs, there is only Udonis Haslem. I just don't see Lebron or D-Wade going to San Antonio. These are some 2009 free agents:
Chris Andersen (unrestricted FA)
Ron Artest (UFA)
Trevor Ariza (UFA)
Mouhamed Sene (UFA)
Joe Smith (UFA)
Chris Wilcox (UFA)
Marcin Gortat (Restricted FA)
I'd guess that Artest and Ariza will get more than the midlevel exception, so that leaves five players. Gortat is restricted and any offer could be matched by Orlando. Sene is somewhat similar to Mahinmi. Smith is a vet and might come cheap for one year if he hopes to get a championship. Wilcox is sketchy defensively. He doesn't fit the typical Spurs profile, but right now Andersen looks to me like the best option.
My grandma said u dont know .
and this bull continues...we might look at trade which much closer, i dont know..Kaman for Finley and Bowen? probably this is also too much as well or even sucks team like Clipppers wont consider. Coz big trade aint happening. Maybe Chris Wilcox, but it will be like just dumping those two players though
oh well
THE SPURS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN CARTER. check my post in the other Carter thread.
I also doubt Sheed would come in any deal to the Spurs this year, but I can see him coming in the offseason.
2 all stars. Manu is not an all star.
Manu did make an all star team couple of years ago
For the record, I'm not against grabbing a big gun in the right deal.
But we've watched the Spurs beat numerous teams that were more talented on paper, because the Spurs have a better concept of how they want to play vs. the opponent's knowledge of how they want to play.
Yet, it's amazing that some fans are willing to completely gut the team for that gun.
Does VC give the Spurs a much better chance of winning than Michael Finley? ABSOLUTELY.
Does having just VC & the Big 3, then having to fill out the rest of the roster with rookies and D-League journeymen that have little knowledge of the Spurs system put them any closer to a championship? I doubt it.
Yeah Steve Nash isn't an All-Star lol ... once an all star always an all star... Ginobili's #'s per 48 mins year in and year out are good enough to be an all star, but Pop does such a great job at limiting his minutes which bring down his averages.
True all stars play the minutes.
Manu is not an all star. Just below an all star type of player.
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