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he'll be playing for Argentina again
If it was Backloaded then that would have been very hard to trade.
So it is definitely Frontloaded? If that is the case then that is awesome! Spurs should try and get Nocioni right now.
he'll be playing for Argentina again
You think the Spurs wouldn't want him because of that?
maybe; i don't think so
but
i know he'll try to play for the A.Nat.Team
Sorry, typo error.
I think a trade for Andres Nocioni would cap off an amazing offseason. I still think we have 1 more move to make mainly because we have too many contracted players and a couple of contracts that the Spurs would know would be better used in a trade then the players actually taking to the court (Finley and Bonner). Say the Spurs pull off a trade for Andres Nocioni and give up Finley, Bonner and Williams, (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=kmuyxo), it would give us another energy, hustle defensive minded player that would solidify the second unit. If this trade was made, we would still have the LLE which I think should be used on someone like Rasho or another big body defender to take some pressure away from Timmy.
This got me thinking, if this trade was to be pulled off, would we have the most energetic and talented second unit in the league? Assuming Manu Ginobili continues to come off the bench.
PG: George Hill
SG: Manu Ginobili
SF: Andres Nocioni
PF: DeJuan Blair
C: LLE/Rasho
Another good thing that would come from Nocioni is I think if we pair DeJuan with an oversized small forward that can help on the inside, it would mean any disadvantage (if any) from DeJuan being 6'7 would be a little counterbalanced by Noc'. I'd love to have Nocioni for those small ball games. He would be great to have slot in next to Parker, Manu, R-Jeff and then Duncan. We got rid of one Argentine, we need another!
I really like this trade for Nocioni...plus the chance of Rasho and Bowen coming back.
Maybe ther's too many players for not enough minutes, but they look all like good character end experiece players, that could translate in a lot to learnig during the season for our young ones.
I see, for exemple, Rasho (obvioulsy together with Tim) like a "good master" for Ian and Blair.
Bowen the same for Hairston and Gist.
I wouldn't mind to sign Voughn like an assistent coach to have the same role for Mc Clinton...(and, in the not so distant future, De Colo).
The only problem would be that re-sogning all three there we will be 16 instead of the possible 15...
I rather keep he 15th roster spot open and gives as much playing time to Blair/Mahinmi as possible. If they fail, Spurs can still add a vet big waived by another team at the trade deadline.
Keeping a roster spot open will also allow Spurs to sign a player to a short term contract in case of an injury. You have also the financial aspect. Signing a player for the LLE will cost $4M to the owner.
Saying that, we're talking about the end of the bench guy so it isn't a big deal.
The Nocioni trade is my favorite model out there. It just makes too much sense. I remember all the talk of trading Scola to the Bulls to swing Nocioni over this way a few years ago. Point is that this guy would be great in a Spurs uni.
I think before you really take a swing at bringing in Nocioni though you look at James Gist a little closer. Let SL and training camp play out and see if Gist has the ability to play on the wing and contribute now. If Gist is capable of contribution NOW then I think you look elsewhere other than Nocioni. But if Gist is not up to par then I think you reconsider Andres. I doubt Nocioni is really a highly valued trade target right now to teams other than SA, so sitting on the trade shouldn't be a concern.
If the trade we to be available now, why would you wait? Nocioni really would be awesome on the Spurs.
Last edited by Ice009; 07-12-2009 at 07:10 AM.
I'm all for it too happening now, if we can secure someone like Nocioni and only lose some more spare parts again like the RJ trade but this time we lose Bonner, Finley and williams why not do it now? It's not like Gist is going anywhere, he will be around. We could have both. Also, I'd rather not throw Gist right in the deep end, not too confident playing rookies deep into the playoffs especially against a team like the Lakers.
Expirings are a worthy thing to have around. If we pass on someone like Noc it only opens the door for someone else to potentially slide in.
If Gist can fill the role admirably then why not plug another gap with those expirings? It'd be cheaper, help us more in the long-run, and would give us that much more flexibility.
Last edited by Darkwaters; 07-12-2009 at 11:45 AM.
It'd be too much of a dream.. I don't even want to wish it not to hurt my own expectations...
Sounds just like the RJ thread 3 weeks ago! Or the Draft Prospect: DeJuan Blair thread!
Everybody wanting this to happen should be praying to the good juju gods that Omri Casspi plays like a madman for the Kings. I think the only way the Kings trade away Noc's toughness is if they have a badass at the same position ready to compete now.
It would be fun to have players nicknamed "Red Bull" and "The Beast" on the same team...
mother er... i had a dream during my afternoon nap that we got noc for bonner and finley lol. i woke up all excited...
I'm pretty sure Sacto like him a lot.
Bonner/Finley/Williams/pick for Nocioni would be great, but I don't see it happening.
Does Nocioni for finley and bonner work?
Never heard of him.
ballhog???
what a dumbass
If there were any chance of this happening, they Spurs should pursue it immediately. Nocioni would be a great option for guarding the Dirk and Odom types out there.
If Bogans proves to the FO that Mason is expendable.
Mason/ Finley/ Mahimni for Nocioni.
Nocioni is cut from the same cloth as Manu. He would be a terrific addition & wouldn't require Jefferson to play 34 minutes. I still believe we need another big if Ian can't contribute 10 minutes a game.
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