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Like Kori said in the Round Table Nazr is HORRIBLE!
I'm really dissipointed in him but there is still time for him to turn it around.
Nazr sucks.
He gets in people's way on offense and he's a defensive liability. Picking up a couple boards off your own misses to go along with a dunk here and there is not what I expected from him. I didn't think he would be this bad. I'm sick of watching our guards waving frantically at him to move. Sean Marks hadn't played in an NBA game in a long, long time and as soon as he came off IR, he moved ahead of Nazr in the rotation. That should tell you something.
Like Kori said in the Round Table Nazr is HORRIBLE!
I'm really dissipointed in him but there is still time for him to turn it around.
True. He might get better when Duncan returns. Or he might just get cut out of the rotation all together; we'll see.but there is still time for him to turn it around.
Nazr is worthless at this point.
I'll give him to through the playoffs to see if he can contribute.
It's not looking good though.
You've all heard of the Allstate "good hands" award, right? So far, Nazr is headed more for the Cadillac (Anderson) "stone hands" award.
I'm really warming up to Marks though. I hope he sticks around on the playoff roster.
Why shouldn't I cut him slack LJ? You did it for Rose, and he'd been here for seven years, not four weeks.
Or , maybe Nazr should be a ball hog, call out Pop, and shoot it every time he gets it on offense, then when he doesn't play we can all say he's in Pop's doghouse and use that as an excuse for him.
Sean Marks should look more comfortable in the Spurs system, he's basically been here for two full seasons.
hes bad on offense, maybe because, he doesn't know the plays???
Of course, I knew from Day 1 of who he got traded for, that he would get zero slack, and if he didn't play like an all star from day 1, LJ, Whottt, and the rest of the Rose Brigade would be eating him alive.
I remember Mohammed played quite well with Tim Duncan in there little time together.
But once again, dnt mention that, becuase, Mohammed should play fantastic even if Duncan isn't around.
Once again, zero patience for the guy.
Dont forget pull the jersey over his head, curse back at his coach for the coach yelling at him for playing stupid.Or , maybe Nazr should be a ball hog, call out Pop, and shoot it every time he gets it on offense, then when he doesn't play we can all say he's in Pop's doghouse and use that as an excuse for him.
But once again, nazr is the new whipping boy.
Hes taken Rasho and Barry's whipping boy role.
Why are you making stuff up?curse back at his coach for the coach yelling at him
I'm not expecting Nazr to be very far along in the system, but I am expecting that he learn the basics. Each game he seems to regress. Hopefully that will change very soon.
your telling me Kori,Why are you making stuff up?
you never saw Malik Rose yell back at pop ina timeout.
Wave his hand at him, pouts at the end of the bench?
If you haven't then I apologize, but that happened from about 02 to now.
You said "curse back at his coach". I'd venture to say that probably never happened. I don't think that he even yelled at Pop. Disagreed with .. yes. Pout? No. To this day Pop will tell you that Malik was the biggest cheerleader on the team when he was riding the pine and handled it with dignity, respect and was extremely well behaved when he wasn't getting playing time.
You can say whatever you want about Malik making bonehead moves on the court, about the one time that he broke a play, etc. But to say he disrespected Pop or behaved badly on the bench is ridiculous.
I understand you want Nazr to succeed, but utter hate of Malik isn't going to accomplish that.
Boy then I guess, when walking back to the huddle last year when pop yelled at him and he yelled back and pop walked to the huddle early to chide him and the team was a figment of about 18 thousand people's imagination.
Once again, Ive seen that happened more than once with my own eyes.
But once again, Malik is god, sorry to say something bad about him.
You said "curse". Did you hear him curse at Pop? If you say yes, then you are a big liar. He talked back to him, but he didn't yell in his face and he didn't curse at him.
oh im sure he said
darn it pop. dag nab it.
Gosh Darn it all.
I mean Im sure he didnt say "thats bull " or " that"
Some of his favorite sayings on the court.
But, once again, I give up.
THe Nazr Fans are at a disadvantage here and we might as well just roll with the punches, and wait till next year.
Amazing, anytime I become a fan of someone, the majority always has to rip that guy's ass.
I mean Im sure he didnt say "thats bull " or " that"
Some of his favorite sayings on the court.
You do realize that Malik very rarely cusses, right?
That's why the notion that he cussed at Pop is ridiculous. Well that ... and that none of the Spurs players make a habit of cussing at the coaching staff.
[QUOTE=Kori Ellis Well that ... and that none of the Spurs players make a habit of cussing at the coaching staff.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they leave that to us fans.
Nazr seems to be the new scape goat around here.
Timvp found another Spurs to bash after Brent Barry step up his game. Nothing wrong with it, just hope that he will recognize his mistakes if Nazr contributes in the playoffs what Malik didn't do last May.
I don't think TimVP hates Nazr...just as I don't...I think everyone realizes Nazr didn't trade himself to the Spurs...Nazr probably gets the brunt of many fans frustration with the Spurs brass for making a financial decision that jeopardized our le chances.
The danger here is that the Spurs will take the approach of many well meaning fans...and refuse to admit that Nazr is a woefully incompetent replacement for Malik Rose...both with Duncan out and in the quest of winning a le this season.
Not having Malik here hurts us, right now, and probably in the playoffs. Malik's only problem in the playoffs last season was that he didn't get played...and we lost in part due to weak interior play...Malik couldn't have done any worse than the guys we put on the court.
The concern over whether or not Nazr should even make the playoff roster is a legitimate one...he doesn't know what he's doing out there...and his ability to get a dunk per game is outweighed by his total cluelessness in every other facet of the game.
The thing is...regardless of whether or not Nazr deserves to be on the playoff roster is a moot point...
He will make it...becuase his failure to do so would point out just how much that trade hurt our le chances...and it would also leave the Spurs FO(and ownership) with egg on it's face and having to do a lot of explaining to the fans...so Nazr will definitely be on the playoff roster...but I seriously doubt he is going to log more PT or be a bigger factor than Marks.
I don't know if this is relevant or not, but surprising to me was Nazr's block total, considering he wasn't considered a shot blocker and said himself he would never be one.
13 blocks in 14 games. 0.9bpg in 14 mins compared to 1.0bpg in 28 mins in New York.
That may be true, but I've got a hunch that after TP's contract extension, the front office WANTED the Rose contract gone, and in that regard, they don't really care about what happens with Nazr.
I hate to root against the guy, but I hope Nazr doesn't make the playoff roster. Right now, Marks and T-Mass are doing a far more consistent job spelling the bigs.
There's no concern that Nazr should be on the roster. He sholdn't. Marks is playing much better than him, every single way.
Once again, I would hope Marks would be, hes been in the system and played with the team for 2 years, Mohammed has been here barely 4 weeks.
But, once again, the standards were set for Nazr way high just for who he was traded for.
Nazr hasn't had a chance, but I agree that he should at least be able to play basic basketball.
As for Malik cussing, I witnessed his antics first hand sitting 3 rows behind the bench last year and TPark is right on.
Malik clearly went off on Pop during one game and Pop clearly went off on Malik. Did they cuss? WGAF. Going off with or without cussing is the same thing. I didn't know that cussing was considered a different level.
Again, for the millionth time, Greg Popovich is ing nothing without Duncan. Dude would be right along side Bob Hill at the corner panhandling if it wasn't for Duncan.
When mentioning Popovich's success or his backbone, please insert the "with Duncan" rule.
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