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Sean Marks is giving the spurs more effort than i've seen from malik rose in 2 years.
You don't see anyway now...
But I personally think we'd have had a of a lot better chance at beating the Knicks if we had Malik instead of them...if you don't want to acknowledge what Malik contributed to our team...acknowledge the fact that he was telling them all of our plays...Manu acknowledged it...From this perspective of losing like 8 in a row on the road you can say we can't catch Phoenix...but what about before the trade...would we have still lost a ton in a row on the road...would we have lost to the Knicks, Indy?\
Nazr has been a total non factor.....Malik might have been a non factor...but he also might have been a huge factor...he's played well in big road games in his career...
Sean Marks is giving the spurs more effort than i've seen from malik rose in 2 years.
Can't both of them suck, why must it be Malik vs. Nazzy
We were in a dead heat with the Suns when TD and Devin went down. We have a substantially harder schedule to close out the year than the Suns do. are you telling me that without TD and Devin and with a dog tired Manu, just because Malik was around, we could have kept pace with the Suns?
Like I said Malik might have won us an extra game or two. That wouldn't beat out the Suns. Two seed is the Spurs fate unless they totally collapse.
Personally two seed is fine because the Spurs might then draw Sac or Houston, the two weakest Western teams. Meanwhile the Suns may get Memphis a team I'd rather skip.
Malik had like 2 double doubles the week he was traded...when was the last time a big other than Duncan had a double double for us? It's more than just stats though...Malik knew our system on defense...Nazr does not.
Malik's career highs in scoring and rebounding(set last season with Duncan injured) are better than any other big on our team(except for a 40 point game by Horry last century)
Nazr was almost averaging a double double for new york before his injury, he had a game where he had 11 offensive rebounds this year, he had a game where he had 8 blocks this year.
IMHO Malik never played up to his contract, ever since he got his contract he tried to do things he wasnt capable of doing, sometimes even becoming a black hole on offense. So far Nazr hasn't played well, but we have Scola who seems to be basically the same type of player as malik coming in next year, and we have another big body to throw at shaq if the spurs and heat meet in the finals.
Kept two and traded the rest away.Maybe...but look at what RC has done in the low rounds.
What about in 2002-2003?IMHO Malik never played up to his contract, ever since he got his contract he tried to do things he wasnt capable of doing,
People act as if the contract was signed after the championship season. It was before.
What ever happened to the Malik would average a triple double and start and make the hall of fame if he didn't play for Pop?
I think RC has only traded one...I don't think he was the GM when we traded for Speedy...he traded a pick the year we were trying to sign Jason Kidd and needed every penny...He might have been the GM then though can't remember...but that doesn't mean it was his decision to trade them and not use them.
Actually both those picks were traded for Kidd space now that I think about it, because they had the option of renouncing Speedy and they did so......they didn't make those trades because we couldn't get talent at those positions, they did it to enable them to sign Jason Kidd...a up if you will...and in fact talent was taken at those positions...and well beyond.
Well the salary number is just as big a concern as it was before -- and quite simply, we're full when it comes to projects and guys we'd like to keep.I'm all for getting more 2nd rounders. I like that crapshoot better than guaranteed low 1st round picks....and well beyond.
Would have been nice to have Josh Howard instead of Nazr Mohammed...
It would be nice to have Malik Rose @ $3 million a year.
What's your point?
My point is simple...we traded Josh Howard, Malik Rose, a 3 million dollar tradekicker and a #1 pick for Nazr Mohammed.
Will pass you the vaseline?
I have a question. Why couldnt this trade have been made in the offseason?
It seems to me that Isaih was most interested in the 2 draft picks anyways and their contracts are still similar for next season (Nazr $5,500,000 Malik $6,008,750) .the difference being made up with some scrub player being thrown in the trade?. I don't know all the details but to me Malik would have been a bigger contributor for this season anyways than Nazr who was coming in injured and going to have to pickup the system and schemes on the fly. If it was just a financial decision on our side and a draft pick decision on the knicks side i dont see why it couldnt have waited until after the season.
Zeke doesn't have the final say in whether trades go down; somehow he got the front office to sign off on this trade after they turned down a similar one last season. There's no telling if Zeke will even have a job next year.I have a question. Why couldnt this trade have been made in the offseason?
Did we work him out?we traded Josh Howard
Oh ok, thats true thanks. I guess the Spurs felt they had to pull the trigger or they wouldn't have any takers in the offseason. There ain't many Isaihs out there so yeah it makes more sense to do it then. I still wish Malik was here for this streatch run. Oh well
Both of them suck. Let's move on
I always thought that you liked Malik's game
Zeke will have a job next year...why do you even question it?
He turned Nazr Mohammed into 2 #1 picks...even Nazr was surprised by that...Malik was just gravy and that contract is not a bad one to the Knicks.
You seem to think the Knicks are poor or something....they have a gobs of money and the only thing they don't like about the salary cap is that it prevents them from spending more of it....
Their fan base won't let them get under the cap to rebuild...they don't even want to get under the cap...it's not an edict from their owner...and you will never see it happen...that is not the way they will fix that team.
And draft picks have great value to them since it's the easiest way for them to upgrade talent.
No but the Spurs did want to draft him but elected to try and sign Kidd instead...so we traded our pick and what we got in return we traded for Nazr Mohammed. Yay
Oh well...at least Nazr made sure the pick we kept would be lower than the one we gave up for him...I guess Nazr has helped the team after all.
And after starting 0-2 on the road trip they(knicks) have been tanking it...Playoffs didn't work out so now they are cruising for a high lottery pick...and I believe they can use the pick they got from us to satisfy another trade they made.
Never read that at all. I was all for using the pick and keeping Speedy. This still all stems from Malik's contract, which was a fait accompli at the time -- so I still fail to see the need for further ing. Be happy the new CBA won't allow for such mistakes in the future.No but the Spurs did want to draft him
Nice spin. You said they were going to the finals. I'll be impressed if they keep Malik his whole contract.And after starting 0-2 on the road trip they(knicks) have been tanking it.
I simply realize it's a business.
Dumbasses don't.
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