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    I'm poplovin' it! TJastal's Avatar
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    This "Bonner experiment" is so failed that it's now become almost laughable that Pop stubbornly insists on using it.

    I'd rather he throw Ian in there for 20 mins and let him learn on the job, rather than watch another minute of Bonner going up against starting-caliber, frontline players. As far as Bonner spreading the floor, he jury is closed on that strategy. Teams are now rushing Bonner at the 3-pt line and forcing him to put the ball on the floor. He's not getting the open looks he got a year ago. So Pop's "spread-the-floor" strategy, at the expense of solid post play and defense, is again a failed strategy. Bonner aint Robert Horry.

    Pop has finally made a change by taking Finley out of the starting lineup. He now needs to do the same with his red-headed boy.
    +1

    And as we saw in the blazers' game McDyess is money with that jumper almost out to the 3pt line and its much harder to block or disrupt than Bonner's sidearm set-shots.

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    Lets have this conversation in January, when we folks aren't overly emotional.

    Realistically, if we make a move at the deadline it's be a package including one of our SG (Mase or Fin) + Ian + picks. This amount to about 4-5M in assets.

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    Exactly, and we need to bring Bruce back!
    lol who is this joker?

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    If Tim Duncan doesn't round into his usual late season / playoff form, there is nothing short of trading for LeBron that the Spurs can do to win a le. As long as Tim's reasonably healthy though (as in, not last season and not 2000), I still like our chances with the team we have right now. It may look like crap right now, but there's a lot of versatile talent on this team that should make it very ing nasty by the time April rolls around and they have had time to gel.


    nailed it.

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    Marcus Camby or Samuel Dalemburt would be 2 good options...

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    lol who is this joker?
    We're gonna regret it. Mark my words.

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    Marcus Camby or Samuel Dalemburt would be 2 good options...
    Camby would be perfect. Can rebound and block shots. He also has an all right shot.

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    Camby or bust

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    Short of getting a big center, I'd love welcome back SJax in a hearbeat. Love his shooting and his clutch mentality. There just isn't enough of either on this team.

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    Manu for Camby. I called for this last year. Its tough to find a starting quality center without trading some value.

    Hill gets more minutes at the 2 and Bonner goes to the bench for good. The spus won't get past the Lakers with all their size without some quality players in the frontcourt.

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    Manu for Camby. I called for this last year. Its tough to find a starting quality center without trading some value.

    Hill gets more minutes at the 2 and Bonner goes to the bench for good. The spus won't get past the Lakers with all their size without some quality players in the frontcourt.
    This means double minutes for Finley. That will cancel out anything good that Camby does.

    As far as the OP goes...it's Jack or Foster for me. I'd rather have jack, but either one fill a big need.

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    Foster's injury concerns don't concern you, benefactor?..

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    I didn't think we needed Camby before this past week. Now I am just about convinced that if we don't get him, we have no chance.

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    Manu and Bonner for Sjax and Biedrins? Would YOU do it? It works in the trade machine and Nelson has asked for Manu and hasn't played Biedrins much, choosing to go with Randolph and Turiaf more often. And Nelson would love to use Bonner at the 5.

    I know the Manu die hards would be up in arms if this trade happened, but Manu has been awful shooting the ball lately. I'm starting to doubt he'll ever get back to the Manu of 07-08.
    I would love to have Biedrinis and if like you say he is not playing much, Golden State may consider trading him for expiring contracts.

    Biedrinis for Bonner, Mason and Ian works.

    I would do it, even though he has a bad contract.

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    We can get D.Howard, Camby, Okafor, but if Pop continues to play small ball the result are going to be the same.

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    If we still suck in 25 games, I'll think about this.

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    Too early to tell..there are some guys I wouldn't mind, I don't know how realistic they are..some of them would require giving up future picks, cash, and/or Ian in the deal with our expiring contracts..

    I wouldn't mind Chandler for us(despite the injury concerns), Biedrins(although he's overrated), Kaman(bouncing back, but overrated), and Okafor(I don't know how soon he can be traded..I usually wouldn't think a division rival would trade, but NO might not care about winning more than saving $)..

    I don't think any of those options are realistic at all though, just throwing out some bad contracts of players that would help..that would require heavy luxury tax, especially if Splitter is expected to join the team with a MLE-type offer..
    I've already thought about this and the only player who makes sense financially and would fill the glaring needs on this team is Camby. Expiring contract, ranging 6'11'' shot blocker/rebounder extraordinaire and a decent mid-range shooter. Perfect compliment for Duncan.

    Let's just hope the Clippers underachieve and are out of the playoffs by the deadline (even last season, they were rumored shopping him) and are willing to take some of the Spurs cadre of expiring contracts + Mahinmi + a 1st round pick. If a third team is needed to make the money work and facilitate the deal, then a team like the Grizzlies can be pulled in.

    Camby would be an ideal bridge to Splitter's presumed 2010 arrival. As for the 1st round pick, Splitter would join Blair and Hill as three young players amongst the teams top 8-9, plus there's still the possibility that Hairston turns out, so youth-wise the Spurs would still have a solid amount next season.

    This team can't afford to waste another year of Duncan's career. They have given every indication that they're going for it. This is the final move that gives them a legitimate shot at a championship this season. Without it, there's not enough reliable size on the front line, most likely.

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    Foster's injury concerns don't concern you, benefactor?..
    I think it's a bit overblown by some people. He's had a few nagging things...but he has still been relatively durable. He only missed 8 games last year and 5 the season before.

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    A player to help Tim defend the paint and get a ing rebound is what is missing. Can we trade anyone away that would land us a legit 7 footer?
    No, really, it's not. Dice is that guy (10/10 last year, and a much better defender than we've seen so far), but he has to start and play 30mins a game and get comfortable with the system.

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    McDyess continues stepping his game up, we won't need another player with the exact same skillset. Dyess is the 6 million dollar man, after all

    The Parker injury could be a blessing in disguise if it helps RJ and Dyess get in a rhythm.

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    I would love to have Biedrinis and if like you say he is not playing much, Golden State may consider trading him for expiring contracts.

    Biedrinis for Bonner, Mason and Ian works.

    I would do it, even though he has a bad contract.
    Bad contract? You don't find a productive center with that nice contract everyday. Golden State thinks Biedrins is untouchable.

    If Chris Bosh wanted out, seriously, fat hope.

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    A good big man who is a true center would help the spurs a long way, i think. i think theres some potential trade targets out there

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    yeah idk whats the deal with bonner starting.....pop needs to go back to his old days starting 2 big men.....duncan and Ian would be just fine

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    Bad contract? You don't find a productive center with that nice contract everyday. Golden State thinks Biedrins is untouchable.

    If Chris Bosh wanted out, seriously, fat hope.
    Biedrins has only played 3 games thus far (currently out w/ back injury)) but has averaged only 23 minutes in those 3 games. 2 of the games he was limited by foul trouble, but vs. Phoenix he only played 20 minutes and had only four fouls.

    Nelson has been giving a lot of his time to guys like Anthony Randolph and Ronny Turiaf. Plus Biedrins has only blocked 2 shots in 3 games and grabbed 7 boards (in limited minutes, of course), causing Nelson to sour on him.

    I think he is no longer "untouchable" in Nelson's eyes.

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    Randolph has been getting virtually 0 playing time.

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