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Don't we have Mahimi and on occasionally, Ratliff for that ing job? The personnel isn't the problem, it's POP's stupidity that is killing this team. Matt Bonner seriously at starting center? That was soooo 2009 POP.
A player to help Tim defend the paint and get a ing rebound is what is missing. Can we trade anyone away that would land us a legit 7 footer?
Don't we have Mahimi and on occasionally, Ratliff for that ing job? The personnel isn't the problem, it's POP's stupidity that is killing this team. Matt Bonner seriously at starting center? That was soooo 2009 POP.
Too early to tell..there are some guys I wouldn't mind, I don't know how realistic they are..some of them would require giving up future picks, cash, and/or Ian in the deal with our expiring contracts..
I wouldn't mind Chandler for us(despite the injury concerns), Biedrins(although he's overrated), Kaman(bouncing back, but overrated), and Okafor(I don't know how soon he can be traded..I usually wouldn't think a division rival would trade, but NO might not care about winning more than saving $)..
I don't think any of those options are realistic at all though, just throwing out some bad contracts of players that would help..that would require heavy luxury tax, especially if Splitter is expected to join the team with a MLE-type offer..
I agree, if some guys are available why not? However, I think we did enough retooling that we need last offseason to address our issues from 2008-2009. We've got guys who have been spending too much time on the bench and in fact some of them haven't seen any minutes yet. We've gotta use these guys before looking at the trade deadline
Its early days yet. shut up and watch the season as it plays out. its been 5 games. who the cares
Bonner, Finley, and Mason are all expiring contracts. None of those three have much of an effect on our team so making a trade to bring in a useful player would be in the Spurs best interest.
And somebody new would learn the system faster than the people already on the team?
Give some of these players time to adjust. I remember when Horry first came to the Spurs...most thought him to be a bust because at first he looked as though he should have retired instead of continued to play the game.
Looked at what happened when giving him the time to learn the system.
Bonner and Finley have been here for years. No amount of "learning the system" is going to make them effective players. Their presence on the court makes the Spurs a one-dimensional team that can be picked apart by any playoff-calibre team.
I was talking about McDyess, Blair, Ratliff, Jefferson, Bogans...you know...the new guys.
If Tim Duncan doesn't round into his usual late season / playoff form, there is nothing short of trading for LeBron that the Spurs can do to win a le. As long as Tim's reasonably healthy though (as in, not last season and not 2000), I still like our chances with the team we have right now. It may look like crap right now, but there's a lot of versatile talent on this team that should make it very ing nasty by the time April rolls around and they have had time to gel.
Fair enough. I have no problem with most of those players.
pop still living off last season
Exactly, and we need to bring Bruce back!
We aren't going anywhere with Matt Bonner as our starting center.
It's just so pathetic to even mention Bonner and starting center in the same sentence.
I just hope well get rid of Bonner and Finley till next month.
Manu and Bonner for Sjax and Biedrins? Would YOU do it? It works in the trade machine and Nelson has asked for Manu and hasn't played Biedrins much, choosing to go with Randolph and Turiaf more often. And Nelson would love to use Bonner at the 5.
I know the Manu die hards would be up in arms if this trade happened, but Manu has been awful shooting the ball lately. I'm starting to doubt he'll ever get back to the Manu of 07-08.
Manu will be Manu again. You realize that he put down a basketball for 6 months for probably the first time since he started playing as a little boy, don't you? It takes time to shake off that rust. While I like SJax, he's really only a 4th quarter player, and Manu is that AND effective in quarters 1-3. Beidrins is just a flat stiff.
Biedrins is okay. I'd prefer Brook Lopez. There's no way in Jersey is giving him up, but he's the only big man I'd really be interested in acquiring at this point.
Really? In these 5 games do you think our inside D and rebounding will improve? Manu will get better as the season goes along. Parker will start playing like the Parker of old. Hill is improving. Jefferson's chemistry will continue to grow. Yes, the team will get better but Tim is still not going to get help inside. We need to start playing some of the length on our bench or trade for a vet since Pops has a hard on for them.
I'm not advocating a trade, because I think the right players are on this roster. But, IF the Spurs were to trade, I see Marcus Camby as the most logical fit....rebounding, shot-blocking and occassional offense.
Again, not saying the Spurs should pursue a trade (way too early), but if they do...this would be the guy.
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Was just thinking about that. Definitely that style of player. A vet, with good rebounding and shot blocking skills. The problem is that you can pull out a Gooden like last season if you trade too late. It takes time to learn the system, rotations, etc.
A short answer...yes we will improve...we have already.
The defensive FG% is much better at times than the last couple of years (last night it was 43.2%). It was the offense that killed the Spurs last night, they could hit nothing at all, and they did have the open looks. A few of our core players only played a quarter. They got outrebounded particularly on the defensive stats because they missed alot more shots.
Pop is experimenting with the lineup and seeing how certain players will contribute later in the season, he does it all the time.
Alot of you must be new Spurs fans, or trolls, you have never heard of S.P.A.M.?
Tyson Chandler looks good after the surgeny...i ever like Chandler D...
Hmm... Camby for Bonner and any 2 of the following: Finley, Mason, Ian, Haislip, and Bogans.
Bonner is a MUST to trade, if he's around he's going to get PT, even keep starting. This would bring Hairston into the rotation, I like this guy. If he starts getting the playing time now, I think he'd be a nice contributor by April.
This "Bonner experiment" is so failed that it's now become almost laughable that Pop stubbornly insists on using it.
I'd rather he throw Ian in there for 20 mins and let him learn on the job, rather than watch another minute of Bonner going up against starting-caliber, frontline players. As far as Bonner spreading the floor, he jury is closed on that strategy. Teams are now rushing Bonner at the 3-pt line and forcing him to put the ball on the floor. He's not getting the open looks he got a year ago. So Pop's "spread-the-floor" strategy, at the expense of solid post play and defense, is again a failed strategy. Bonner aint Robert Horry.
Pop has finally made a change by taking Finley out of the starting lineup. He now needs to do the same with his red-headed boy.
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