Obviously it's a conspiracy.
Either that or Pop sees Hairston in practice every day and just doesn't think he's ready yet.
One of the two.
Maybe Pop just doesn't want to experiment with two unknowns at the same position at the same time. Currently, Pop is looking at Bogans and trying to figure out just how much he can contribute. Once hes a known quan y, then perhaps we can move on to the experiementation of Malik Hairston. I think thats a reasonable way to go about it. We've got 75 games to go afterall. Theres plenty of time.
Have you lost your mind? There's nothing you can say that would justify this opinion...nothing.
Mason is in a slump. I have a feeling that you don't understand the concept of that.
You bring up a good point. It goes beyond Bogans too. Between RJ, Dyess, Ratliff, Blair and Bogans the coaching staff has more than enough on their plates in terms of getting new guys integrated into the system.
Mason's slump isnt the prob...
I was high on Mason for his clutchness last year, and I firmly believe he will start to shoot the lights out soon enough.
But he has never grasped the defensive end of things. NEVER. And who needs another three point shooter when we can get Malik in the game?
Malik has HUGE defensive upside, and I believe he is better defensively than mason as we speak. Not only that but he will bring a second player who can drive to the whole (aside from RJ), which we need. Bogans defense is better than RMJ by a mile. And I do believe Bogans will cool off (though I hope not). But his defense allows us to win games against quality teams, like he did last night. RMJ allows us to struggle to the end, so he can hit a game winner. Malik and Bogans will keep a team out of it all game long.
Bottom line...if you want to see this team blossom on D, Mason and Finley need to find the bench, Bonner's minutes need to get capped at around 15, and Malik needs to be given some serious burn.
that said, you don't waive RMJ. that is moronic.
I realize I had to go in the way-back machine all the way to Nov. 6 to find this quote, but that doesn't sound too ominous for Hairston's future.
The fact of the matter is, Pop has to find a way to build continuity and cohesion with a roster that's had significant turnover and, thus, many moving parts. He's got to get players comfortable individually and collectively; throwing another variable into the equation doesn't aid in that effort.
The argument I and others of the HoH or HC have had, in regards to Hairston v Bogans, wasn't about Keith's inadequacies defensively. I and plenty of others knew he was a solid defender and that his game offensively fit the Spurs' system very well. We looked at him as basically the Udoka replacement, only a slight upgrade on the perimeter defensively. The argument for Hairston was that he was a better overall player. His defense was comparable but he brought more upside on both ends. That was the argument.
Personally, I'd rather have two defenders the caliber of Bogans and Hairston on the perimeter and not the one-trick ponies of Mason and Finley, but that's me; with all the added offensive talent, I'd prefer the role players to be a more dirty work, energy, defensive-group. Plus, given Bogans' size and need to play physically with his lack of length and athleticism, foul-trouble could, at times, be a problem. I'm not saying it's any kind of major concern but it's something to consider.
But it's not up to me or anyone on this board and it's completely feasible to think that Pop's vision for Hairston is that of insurance this year and a more prominent role next year when contracts expire or someone, possibly, retires.
Most likely Malik's best, and maybe only, shot is to seize an opportunity when Pop is forced to put in his insurance claim. He's going to have to take the reins and, like he did with making them feel they had to keep 15 on the roster, force them to keep him on the court with his play.
How is he going to force his way on the court when he is going to be on the IR when everyone is healthy?
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I'd like to see Hairston get some of Mason's minutes..... A LOT of Mason's minutes.
I like that people are now declaring Hairston to be a better NBA player than Finley and Mason. It's cute, but I'm not sure it's true.
I don't think he's a better player than Finley OR Mason....Finley is actually one of the better shooters on the team. Mason is just useless when he's not hitting shots, which is right now, so I'd like to see Hairston get at least a few minutes there.
If everyone else is hitting threes, Finley becomes rather redundant on this team quickly. There might be a chance or two coming up for Hairston to log some minutes. He'd better make the most of them if he wants any chance of cracking the rotation. Whether Mason's jumper comes back sooner or later makes little difference in that scenario.
The problem though is that Pop doesn't have the luxury of knowing ahead of time whether or not everyone else will be hitting their 3's that night, thus allowing him to put Finley on the IR and dressing Hairston.
agreed, at the end of the day hes trying to help out the team. but this thread is definitely premature in development. many others have already brought up great points.
Oh I completely agree with you. If the Spurs hit threes sporadically as a team Fin's not going anywhere. If the team begins hitting them with regularity, Pop can be weaned off the Finley Bombing Binges.
Why would you waive Hairston? To what, bring back Williams after you said Bogans should have been waived first?
Just keep quiet and just watch.
Well obviously Finley and Mason already established themselves as NBA players. That's not the point. What is the most critical issue with the Spurs right now? Their defense. Who is more likely the better defensive player out of Hairston, Finley and Mason. Umm how about Hairston. We have goo-gobs of depth on the offensive end. Why do we direly need two more 3 point chunkers on the court? We don't. And what is this 12th man bull ? Apparently our current 12th man(Bogans) is making more of an impact then a whole lot of other people on our bench. So much for your 12th man doesn't mean theory.
Bogans is a starter. Haislip is currently the 12th man.
Haslip wasn't even activated when the season started. Bogans was at the end of the bench.
That doesn't change the fact that Bogans is currently a starter in a full contingent of swingmen and not the 12th man.
It proves my point is what it does. Someone who was considered the last option and an end of the bench player is now starting. That is exactly what I was getting at. The same could hold true with Malik. So I say again this whole 12th man theory is bull . There is no one that I would consider the 12th man on our bench this year. Maybe other years you could have made such a debate with old Spurs players such as Dwayne Shintzius, Jack Haley, and whatever other super scrub you can conjure up, but that ain't the case this year.
In normal cir stances I consider Malik a 13th man. I believe that will be the case this year unless he makes some kind of serious breakthrough with whatever minutes he does get.
Theres no minutes available.
If Ginobili can't go saturday I'd say he will get some burn.
IMO Finley is slowly being fazed out.
Last night in the 4th quarter was a typical Pop time to play him (offense sputtering needing spacing) and he didn't see the court hardly at all.
Hairston is one year away still but he will get his chances and hopefully he takes advantage.
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