In as much as I like Hairston for his athleticism, shooting and gutsy moves to the basket. I just absolutely can't see how he can buy minutes with the current lineup.
I mean, the Spurs are already playing without Parker, that's one extra man down. One would think that would open up some spare time, but apparently it isn't. We need every minute of Bogans, Mason and Finley's time.
Unless you dump either one of these 3 and lose someone like Parker, Ginobli, Hill or Jefferson then he isn't going to find time.
The final nail in the coffin is that Bogans is showing that he can real keep up the intensity. Mason and Finley aren't replaceable unless their traded, but that means someone else will come in to take minutes.
i would wave Mason before him. he was very good when he got minutes last year. esp in that game against Denver. showed a lot of heart, toughness and athleticism. he can defend, too. and in preseason he was hitting his threes.
i see a lot more upside with him than i do Mason.
Now that you've procliamed him useless, I fully expect Hairston to start within a week.
He's injury protection for 2s and 3s. A lane crowded with over-sized feet is a standard risk factor to any NBA game. Take any one of Manu, Jefferson or Bogans out with an ankle sprain and the Spurs would "sorely" need an a aggressive wing player like Malik.
The Spurs may not want to keep spending money for term insurance past December, but Malik seems to have some special qualities about him. He is a cut above your normal Melvin Sanders. If Malik leaves, the Spurs become less athletic, less aggressive at both ends and they lose a guy who can create his own scoring opportunities. I hope the Spurs pay the paltry extra $ to keep Malik since they are making an exception this year any way.
He hasn't even played much yet, we have to keep him. He's probably on wheels in practice which is good for the core guys anyway. Getting rid of him is like swearing off all other chicks because of a couple good dates. But then again are you the knock em up, marry them on your 1 month anniversary type??!
this thread is right on time
lol...I thought the same thing.
Of course he is not going to get minutes. He is basically a rookie and has several experienced wings ahead of him. He is not only injury protection(as Solid D pointed out), but he is a player the Spurs have taken time to develop and have kept beyond the preseason because they obviously see something they like. If you combine that with the fact that several of our wings will come off the books after this season cutting him because he doesn't play right now makes very little sense.
Ceperez...I think you has some potential as a poster, but you have to start taking a few steps back so you can see the whole painting. If you stand too close, it's easy to nitpick and find things you feel don't fit.
Hairston is fine. He's a good player, it's just not his time yet. There's no need for the Spurs to make any kind of a roster move right now.
On a related note, I really just find it amazing how the Spurs spend a whole offseason building the deepest roster they've ever had and then once the season starts people want to just start giving players away by saying the Spurs need to get rid of whoever had a bad game last night or whoever is buried at the end of the bench. No one needs to be cut.
Last edited by coyotes_geek; 11-12-2009 at 08:38 AM.
Hairston's time will be over right after Haislip becomes the backup SF and Bogans is waived. You have to give the OP credit. He doesn't let previous failure deter him from starting new threads.
Personally, I believe that Pop's stubborn decision NOT to find some minutes for Hairston is hurting the team. The energy and effort that Blair has brought to the frontline, I feel would be matched by what Hairston could bring to the backcourt. Because of his unique skills on both ends, the better Hairston gets would only benefit the team on both ends. He would be a perfect backup for Bogans.
As weird as that may sound, having Finley and Mason on the floor is counter productive to the team on the defensive end, and with the way they are both struggling offensively, they are hurting the team on the offensive end too.
Pop needs to "get his head out", dust him off, and find some minutes for this young man. It never hurts putting another energy player on the floor for spot minutes.
I generally agree, but when TD and Parker come back who do you put on IR? IMO the Spurs can't afford to put Ratliff on IR, so who will it be?
Injuries or Pop choosing to give someone a night off are the only ways Hairston makes it off the IR. Sucks for Hairston, but that's what happens when you're on a team that has great depth. Someone gets squeezed out.
He can also still be assigned to the Toros.
I'm pretty sure the Spurs recognize that he's a keeper. They've already cut and re-signed him twice.
This.
And it's a great problem to have. Also, with expiring contracts and which direction the Spurs are going to go with Ginobili after this season...I don't think the Spurs hastily get rid of a player like Hairston.
i agree. the Spurs clearly think he has potential, but right now the team is so deep he has to bide his time and wait for his turn. who knows how things will play out as the season progresses. maybe Finley's time will continue to be cut. maybe Ratliff will be put on IR to save him for the playoffs.
Hairston will Get His Minutes Next Year... Only way He gets Minutes this Year is If 2 Perimeter players go down.
I dunno if its time for him but I certainly like him to stay and be given a chance. I like how he persevere with Toros and fought off for the final slot in the roster this year. No matter what, I just hope Pop will give him a chance to stake his place in the rotation.
huh, he's a 12th man. that's what 12th men do. they sit on the bench.
Just because Bogans had a good game does not make Malik obsolete.. My opinion on Malik hasn't changed one bit. He is just as good as Bogans if not better. He rebounds better then Bogans, he is more athletic then Bogans, and he can get to the rim. Bogans has answered the one question we had about him coming into this season though. He can be out on the court without being an offensive liability.
Truth be told what I want to happen is Pop lets Malik take Finleys minutes. Atleast as an experimentation. Finley is stopping no one out there on the floor. I could guarantee you that even though Malik is undersized he is still fully capable of staying in front of his man as well as contest the shot as it goes up. Finley plays hard and plays disciplined, but doesn't have the gear to put pressure on opposing players on the defensive end.
The Spurs are clearly high on Hairston and think hes developing well. The guy has shown incredible growth in a relatively short time. While I'd love to see him get some significant time with the big club, I also don't think that spending another year in Austin will be a bad thing. Throw in a few select call-ups for him where he gets a decent run in the bigs and then let him dominate the lesser compe ion again and work out the wrinkles in his game that they indentify.
Fact is that the Spurs will probably be needing another wing next year no matter how you slice it. Finley, Mason, Ginobili and Bogans are all in contract years and I really doubt that we resign ALL of them. Ginobili is a given and, at this rate, Bogans might be also, but Finley and Mason are reasonable walks at this point. That means that Malik stands to step into a favorable situation with two years of experience in the system and potentially fill the role of a primary back-up and an integral part of one of the best benches in the league.
I think Hairston's got a lot to look forward to and a lot of reason to hang around.
The spurs are getting this guy ready for next year...Finley will not be back next year, Mason will probably have to take lower contract from the spurs than other teams to stay so I think he will leave, and expect bogans and manu to be back. With that said, I think he will be in the rotation next year and lets not forget that this guy is only 22 years old with still some work to be done on his ball handling and shooting.
He will be the Toro's MVP. I also think Pop should look at giving Haislip and Ian some burn when we play some of the longer teams to see what he's got in actual game time.
While the Spurs have upgraded their talent over the summer, I'm still not convinced that they are as athletic enough at the 2/3 spot. They're better with RJ and Bogans, but Finley and Mason are just shooters. They bring nothing else to the table and seriously bring down the athletic quotient. The Spurs need the athleticism and energy that Hairston brings - especially when going up against teams like Blazers, Jazz, Fakers. Throwing minutes Hairston's way would only benefit this team in the long run and seriously upgrade the talent level. I simply don't understand why Pop is so adverse to this.
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