Here is what's sad in the Kobe/MJ debate

[milkshakeballa]

Kobe is a GREAT PLAYER, an AMAZING PLAYER, but MJ > KOBE

i agree 100% at this time.

and most likely thats going be the case when kobe retires...

but god damn havent people learned NOT to doubt #24??? i think everybody knows he is gunning to be considered better than jordan.....

nothing we can do cept sit and watch until its over....

there is ZERO point in arguing AD IGN NASEUM EVERYDAY using up all of Kori's bandwith about this ing stupid topic..

[DAF86]

lets wait til his career is over then talk!

OK, I can agree with that but then why the did you say that nobody can argue against him already being a top 5/6 player of all-time?

[Banzai]

What is sad about the debate is that there are debate threads still being created.

[23LeBronJames23]

he has only finished HALF his fukcing career....


no matter what SIDE of the argument you are on....you cannot ing talk about his career like its over...

what if he retires with 8 rings...wat r people going to say then???

DAMN Son, Kobe is gonna play until he is 45 years old???

[Smooth Criminal]

There is nothing worse than to lie to yourself. Sad, sad stuff Laker fans.

Why plural? The only Laker Fan in this thread up to your post was milkshakeballa

[Metheny]

first off the argument is soo dumb its like comparing a god to a human MJ wins in all categories hes the greatest of all time. Why don't people compare kobe to johnson? thats what i don't get? Well then again johnson owns his resume as well

[DAF86]

OK, I can agree with that but then why the did you say that nobody can argue against him already being a top 5/6 player of all-time?

Kobe might not even be the 5th or 6th best player to have played for the Lakers.

[Smooth Criminal]

Kobe might not even be the 5th or 6th best player to have played for the Lakers.

Asinine comments like this hurt my faith in humanity.

[Metheny]

well think about it wilt,west,shaq,kareem,magic hmmm that is a possibility!

[Spursmania]

i agree 100% at this time.

and most likely thats going be the case when kobe retires...

but god damn havent people learned NOT to doubt #24??? i think everybody knows he is gunning to be considered better than jordan.....

nothing we can do cept sit and watch until its over....

there is ZERO point in arguing AD IGN NASEUM EVERYDAY using up all of Kori's bandwith about this ing stupid topic..

You started the thread

[DAF86]

Asinine comments like this hurt my faith in humanity.

well think about it wilt,west,shaq,kareem,magic hmmm that is a possibility!

Add Mikan to that list, I don't know what's so asinine about my comment.

[LakasRool4eva]

Better careers than Kobe:
1) Michael Jordan
2) Magic Johnson
3) Larry Bird more ships
4) Wilt Chamberlain
5) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6) Shaquille O'Neal more ships after this year
7) Hakeem Olajuwon more ships
8) Tim Duncan more ships after this year & better at scoring

and guess what???? he's just getting started........................

[Why So Serious]

i am sorry but jordan > kobe.

and why do people have to generalize b.s. about what one laker fan says and apply it to us all

but then we have these trolls who insist that kobe is not clutch that kobe isn't a top 5 Laker of all time again

kobe is a top 10-15 player of all time and could end up higher, but it's unfortunate that people continually bash him for banging a chick who was psychotic and said he raped her.

judge him for his basketball skills not his bedroom skills or are you guys interested in that stuff..

[wijayas]

First of all. You cannot ing compare the two until Kobe retires. First and foremost. His career is not finished. He has a LONG way to go. The guy is only 31 years old.

Will he reach Jordan? WHo knows...its going to be tough. Jordan was incredible. Top 2 of all-time if not GOAT.

But ....there are SO many people who HATE....HATE kobe that they are ing missing greatness. Can anybody argue against him being top 5/6 all-time? No...so ing experience this...stop blindly hating the ing guy because he murders your ing team. Just enjoy it.

For example....I HATED the ing Suns circa 07. I detested D'Antoni. Raja Bell. I hated the out of those guys. I hated Nash on defense. But god damn I appreciated what he did on the offensive half of the court. The guy is a ing wizard on O. It is beautiful to watch.

I'm lucky to have been able to witness him.


A lot of you people aren't going to be able to say the samehting in regards to Kobe...and that ing sucks for you.

We hate Kobe because he is a rapist who can get away with paying off everybody...

But most importantly, I hate Kobe for his giving up an important Game 7.

[Muser]

What is sad about the debate is that there are debate threads still being created.

This.

[SpuronyourFace]

Kobe is great, but Jordan he is not and never will be.

Jordan never had to ride Shaq's coat tails to 3 championships.

Shaq's career>Kobe's career

[exstatic]

he has only finished HALF his fukcing career....

WHAT???? And you call US delusional? Kobe has maybe another year or two in elite status. The league will pimp him a LOT longer than that, but the fact is, you'll defend him one on one after that, much like the league is doing to Duncan now, and take whatever damage he dishes to not allow the role players to be a factor. End of championship window, especially if Phil waddles off into retirement.

[baseline bum]

and guess what???? he's just getting started........................

Just getting started? He's 31.

[DPG21920]

Do most Laker fans think like this?

[Killakobe81]

Kobe's probaly got 2 elite years and 2 more all-star years I would say le window is at 3 years if no major moves are made ...my guess is Kobe stops at 36 ...
As far as 1 on 1 coverage I would take even at 34 ....

[Gutter92]

I stopped reading when you said Jordan was top 2 all time, and "MAYBE" goat.

[Metheny]

First of all. You cannot ing compare the two until Kobe retires. First and foremost. His career is not finished. He has a LONG way to go. The guy is only 31 years old.

k hes only 31 years old and he has sooo many things to do that are unreachable.... hmmmm?


MJ > Kobe

[DazedAndConfused]

What Laker fans and Kobe fans need to realize is that Kobe haters will stop at nothing to denigrate his accomplishments. It won't matter if Kobe ends up with 7 rings, they simply won't stop. They will always find something to hate on because that's what they are, haters.

I'm fortunate to be witnessing the greatness that is Kobe Bryant every single night he plays for the Lakers. It's truly an honor to watch him. Say what you want about his personal life, but on the court he's one of the best the NBA has ever seen.

[mojorizen7]

If Kobe was TRULY great, I would have said so.

I laugh at this debate because I can see with my own eyes Kobe benefits from HYPE and bull myth

He's NOT the best closer in the NBA today. Look at the stats. LeBron, Melo, there are 10 players who have better clutch time stats than he does, more game winners than he does.

His defense is OVERRATED. Kobe on the first team all-defense last year was a ING JOKE, and any fan who paid attention will agree.

Kobe CANNOT dominate a game and do something magical like Jordan, Larry, Magic, and all the greats could. he just can't. I don't see .

What I do see, is him jacking up UGLY shots, missing 3 of them, and then his TEAM keeps him in the game, and he makes a ty 3 pointer with a man in his face, and gets credit for it.

What I do see, is Kobe elbowing people in the face, whining to the referees, and pushing players out of the way to get an open shot and not have a foul called on him.

Get the out of here.

If he truly was there, you wouldn't have so much dissent.

Rack 'em Willie.

[namlook]

No one can argue with hate, it's useless. These people live in a delusional world.