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    Rising above the Fray spursncowboys's Avatar
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    I'm not going to dig out the old political theory text, but if one wanted to comb through threads from a couple weeks back, they could just about pinpoint the day SnC heard the term Bolshevik for the first time in his life.
    I don't think I have ever expressed when I learned about the Bolsheviks. However, within the last year I did read about the just ways they all died. Maybe you need to learn about them and Mao since you have stated how what Mao did was beneficial to his population.

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    so the 2 party congress that has yet to get a single payer system, that has supported aggressive foreign policy, that has granted bailouts and deregulated the market and run neoliberal policies for decades is socialist?

    now that is funny.

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    Are we now saying that america is socialist?

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    http://www.epi.org/economic_snapshot...cial_security/

    Americans agree on how to fix Social Security

    By Ross Eisenbrey

    Reports that exaggerate the problem of looming deficits have left many Americans worried that Social Security will not be there when they retire. A survey conducted jointly by the Rockefeller Foundation and the National Academy of Social Insurance found that 90% of Americans are concerned about the program’s ability to pay benefits for the next generation. Because these same people believe strongly that workers should have financial security in their retirement, most want Social Security’s finances strengthened. Regardless of their party affiliation, 85% or more of survey respondents said it is important to keep Social Security financially solvent.



    The most striking finding in the survey is that most Americans are willing to pay higher payroll taxes to preserve the Social Security program. When asked to respond to the statement: "It is critical that we preserve Social Security for future generations, even if it means increasing working Americans’ contributions to Social Security," 77% of those surveyed said they agreed (see Figure). When presented with a specific way to strengthen Social Security, an even larger portion showed support. Of those surveyed, 83% said they supported lifting the Social Security tax cap of $106,800, so that high-income earners would pay the tax on all of their salary in the same way that lower-wage earners do. Because the projected shortfall in social security is much smaller and more manageable than is often presented, eliminating the cap on taxable earnings would bring in sufficient funds to close the projected Social Security shortfall over the next 75 years, solving the entire problem.

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    According to CG's Dictionary of Political Cynicism, socialism is defined as any idealology held by people to the left of someone coming from the right. Conversely, idealology held by people to the right of someone coming from the left is defined as fascism.
    that sounds about right

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    Are we now saying that america is socialist?
    did you go to a public school?

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    "Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization advocating public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources, and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with a method of compensation based on the amount of labor expended.[1][2][3]

    Most socialists share the view that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and derives its wealth through exploitation, creates an unequal society, does not provide equal opportunities for everyone to maximise their potential[4] Capitalism does not utilise technology and resources to their maximum potential nor in the interests of the public."

    -- wikipedia.

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    "Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, unemployment benefits, Emergency Medical Treatment Act, welfare. "

    ... none of which were created by Magic Negro.

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    and while we're at it. What's all this bull noise about loss of "freedom"?

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    did you go to a public school?

    Try and read the op. FTR yes I did.

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    "Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization advocating public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources, and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with a method of compensation based on the amount of labor expended.[1][2][3]

    Most socialists share the view that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and derives its wealth through exploitation, creates an unequal society, does not provide equal opportunities for everyone to maximise their potential[4] Capitalism does not utilise technology and resources to their maximum potential nor in the interests of the public."

    -- wikipedia.

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    "Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, unemployment benefits, Emergency Medical Treatment Act, welfare. "

    ... none of which were created by Magic Negro.

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    and while we're at it. What's all this bull noise about loss of "freedom"?



    OP le read fail.

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    Since when are there rules in a knife fight?

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    Since when are there rules in a knife fight?
    Ok, I had to laugh...

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    You of all the alleged "non Obamacons" should be very familar with that. This is a talking in circles thread. Something else you're familiar with. Keep your eye on those R's and D's Georgy.

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    Try and read the op. FTR yes I did.
    you mean "try to read the op".

    FTR yes I did read the op.

    you asked if America is socialist. Public schools are a form of socialism.

    Just helping you connect some dots.

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    Private schools?

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    According to CG's Dictionary of Political Cynicism, socialism is defined as any idealology held by people to the left of someone coming from the right. Conversely, idealology held by people to the right of someone coming from the left is defined as fascism.
    /thread

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    easy. When Richard Jefferson is on the floor, that's socialism.

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    you mean "try to read the op".

    FTR yes I did read the op.

    you asked if America is socialist. Public schools are a form of socialism.

    Just helping you connect some dots.
    go to the extreme much?

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    go to the extreme much?
    Medicare/Medicaid
    Social Security
    The Post Office
    The Public Library System
    The Military
    Fire and Police departments
    Welfare
    FDA
    Dept of Agriculture/ farming subsidies
    Parks and Wildlife
    EPA
    Federal Banking System
    Dept. of Transportation
    etc.

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    what about them?

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    go to the extreme much?
    no

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