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Also, Jennings hasn't done crap since his first month. No way he should be in the discussion. He's young and has tons of potential, but his numbers aren't that good.
Yeah but you were talking about LeBron and Richard Jefferson in your original post. LeBron is on the Cavs. Richard Jefferson is on the Spurs.
No you didn't. Stop trying to sound like a smart ass.
Agreed, but you make it sound like I already did not know that. When did I say that the Hornets should trade CP3 for just any player? I am saying that the Hornets should trade him for an All star big man if one gets on the trading block.
Actually almost all past NBA champions have not had their best player as the PG. Talents like Chris Paul go a long way, yes, but if he can be traded for another great talent that the Hornets are weak at than that would go an even longer way in making the Hornets a contender.
The Hornets haven't been legit contenders either besides the one year they made the Conference Finals. Chris Paul hasn't lead them to the promised land once yet.
That works too, but I just think that trading CP3 would get the Hornets an even better player in return.
It works both ways though. Collison makes CP3 expendable and vise versa. So if the Hornets could trade Collison for a great big man they should do it.
My point is that it's not worth it to have 2 very good players that play the same position unless one of them is versatile enough to play a different position.
Also, Jennings hasn't done crap since his first month. No way he should be in the discussion. He's young and has tons of potential, but his numbers aren't that good.
I'm not advocating trading CP3 anytime soon, but in case he wants to leave in a couple of seasons, not only would he bring back more players and draft picks, he would also have other teams take some of our bad contracts (Okafor, Posey).
Thank you. If you look at the past few champions the PG is never the best player on the team.
Again I am not saying CP3 should be traded for just any player, but Collison's great play makes him a trading option that could get them a player at a different position who could possibly lead them to a le.
Jennings has put up a ton of shots to get his numbers.
They could honestly get two really good players, a draft pick and get rid of Okafor's contract. I don't think trading Collison would do that.
Thanks for helping me.
Again I'm not saying that CP3 should be traded right away, but options should be looked at. Even though Collison is playing great, you are absolutely correct, teams will give up a lot more to get CP3.
All it takes is for a star player to get disgruntled in another team and the Hornets could get equal or greater value for CP3 in a trade.
The last time a team won a championship with the PG being the best player was your teamThanks for helping me.
Again I'm not saying that CP3 should be traded right away, but options should be looked at. Even though Collison is playing great, you are absolutely correct, teams will give up a lot more to get CP3.
All it takes is for a star player to get disgruntled in another team and the Hornets could get equal or greater value for CP3 in a trade.
I mean Isiah, not Chauncey.
It's an analogy. What part of it you don't understand? Of course they were in different teams. Hey, Jefferson was actually drafted before James, so what I said made no sense!! Geez...
Sorry, I thought you were someone else. I had this conversation before.
Not even LeBron guarantees a le.
Put the right team around Paul as you're best player and you have a decent chance of contending.
Put the right team around Collison and you better hope there's an All-NBA talent and at least another All-Star in that supporting role, because if Collison is your best player, you're headed to the lottery.
And you haven't explained: who would you trade Paul for? If it's not for an All-NBA 1st/2nd team, it's not worth it.
Honestly, if another team takes Okafor's contract with Collison and gives up an All-Star player, I would think about it. This trade might be ok:
Hornets trade Collison/Slo-Feet/Okafor to the Lakers for Bynum/1st round pick
Bynum would instantly improve the Hornets defense which is the biggest reason why they will miss the playoffs and provide the team with a low post presence becoming a perfect fit with West. However, Bynum's injury history is a concern.
Trading West is not the answer. He has a very good contract and is still very productive. In order for the Hornets to really become a contender, they have to find a big market team who will take Okafor's contract.
Thats my point. First off Collison is not the best player on the team right now. You could argue that West and/or Thornton are better.
But that's not a problem because a PG doesn't have to be the best player on the team (based on the history of NBA champions) they just have to be a good leader.
So the Hornets could trade him along with Peja/Okafor (Peja b/c he's washed up, or Okafor b/c of his contract) to get that 1st/2nd All-NBA player.
Who is that? I don't know because I'm not saying the Hornets should trade him right now. All I am saying is that Collison gives the Hornets the interesting option of trading CP3. If they don't see a 1st or 2nd All-NBA player in trade rumors oh well, but if they do why shouldn't they pull the trigger.
I don't care it hurts my argument to say that I don't know who that player is but thats the truth. What I can tell is that all it takes for a player to get disgruntled and then maybe the Hornets could actually get even more value than they deserve for trading Chris Paul.
The All-NBA players in Chris Paul age bracket are:
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Kevin Durant
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Deron Williams
Brandon Roy
What are the chances of one of these players being available for a trade? Are you going to keep Paul and Collison in hopes that one day LeBron will get disgruntled and request a trade? It's ridiculous.
Doesn't matter if CP3 wants to leave in two years. Unless Hornets find a way to get rid of Okafor, they won't be able to build a team around CP3 with just West and Thornton. Trading West isn't the answer. He still comes cheap and is very productive.
West fell in love with hoisting shots too much. He has developed tunnel vision, doesn't defend, rebounds poorly. He's turning 30 years old in a hurry. Yes, he has a very club-friendly contract and the reputation, that's why you trade him for talent.
Paul will want to leave if you keep constructing ty teams around him.
The plan for the Hornets must be to get rid of Okafor and Posey at all costs for players who expire at the same time of Peja, trade West+Collison for AS talent. If Paul is surrounded by talent and an upcoming team in 11, he won't leave and will negotiate an extension.
Not sure anyone will take Okafor or Posey unless Collison or CP3 is involved. As long as the Hornets can get a big center who can defend and post up, West will be fine.
West has some value, but its decreasing each season. We still need his scoring. Honestly, with CP3, the team needs two more scorers because CP3 has to focus on running the offense. The offense is better this season because of Thornton, but the defense is the biggest problem with losing Chandler. Okafor is just too short and small to defend the paint.
If the Hornets can acquire a big young center for Collison, I would trade him.
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