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    Wow you sure know a lot. We only got to the Finals with Harris and had a 67 win game season. It was not until we got reinforements with Butler, Marion, and Haywood that we became a contender again. And we still miss that slashing off the ball. The only thing stopping us from being a total jumpshooting team.
    First of all, you're trying to use the argument that Harris is a better transition player than Jason Kidd. If going 1 on 4 then blowing the layup is your evidence, then yeah I agree.

    Kidd is the 2nd best player on a top 4 team in the NBA. Who the is Devin Harris?

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    First of all, you're trying to use the argument that Harris is a better transition player than Jason Kidd. If going 1 on 4 then blowing the layup is your evidence, then yeah I agree.

    Kidd is the 2nd best player on a top 4 team in the NBA. Who the is Devin Harris?
    The 2nd best player on a historically bad team

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    First of all, you're trying to use the argument that Harris is a better transition player than Jason Kidd. If going 1 on 4 then blowing the layup is your evidence, then yeah I agree.

    Kidd is the 2nd best player on a top 4 team in the NBA. Who the is Devin Harris?
    Kidd is 37 years old. He is still a good player but his liabilities like not being able to drive and keep defenders in front of him is very noticeable. In a perfect world, Harris and Kidd would be the perfect compliment in the backcourt. But we got Terry who doesn't drive worth . So our chemistry is hurt due to that or was hurt until Butler and Marion came around.

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    If Utah had 2010 J-Kidd back in 1997, do they get to the Finals?

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    Probably, but the outcome would be the same.

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    If Utah had 2010 J-Kidd back in 1997, do they get to the Finals?
    The pic and roll with Malone would be less useful since Kidd didn't shoot well back then.

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    Reading is fundamental.

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    This is Stockton.

    Kidd took to much to learn how to shoot. If he shot like this back in the day than maybe this is closer. At his peak Kidd was a much better defender, probably as good as the league has seen at the PG spot, and much better in full court.

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    Stockton. Kidd is a good defender, but he doesn't compare to Stockton.
    Always been a fan of kidd, but stockton is the better of the two imho

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    dude stockton is like a nash and kidd hybrid. why would you pick kidd when you can have a nash-kidd hybrid?

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    I personally would take Kidd over Stockton.

    Stockton has the slightly more decorated career. I do think Sloan's pick-and-roll offense helped Stockton's assist numbers. And, I found it interesting when I heard Sloan say that he had started to allow Deron Williams to almost exclusively call the offensive sets and Stockton never did. Sloan called the sets with Stockton.

    Stockton was definitely the better shooter, but I think the difference is not as big as it would appear. Stockton was only a marginally better three point shooter in his career. Kidd has actually been a solid three point shooter for much of his career. And from what I do remember of Stockton, he would rarely take contested shots or shots with great difficulty. He would take shots he knew he could make. That's to his credit for having good shot selection and knowing his limitations, but I think that's a big part of why his FG% is as impressive as it is. Kidd would attack the basket much more and going up against big forwards and centers, he would get blocked and miss more shots than Stockton taking open jumpers.

    You still give Stockton the advantage in shooting. But, Kidd's advantages with rebounding, more versatility in defending, and creativity are things that I would rather have. Neither was a prolific scorer, so looking at shooting numbers isn't as important as if we were comparing shooting guards.

    I understand the argument for Stockton, but personally, I'd take Kidd.

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